fair enough but if you want vanity skins you have to pay RL monies for it and the only way to do that is aur... get used to it...

Depends on how they plan to distribute them.
Pick and choose for a winter gift.
LP + ship + isk
Aur + ship

LP + ship + isk I think is the only one worthy enough for slightly different stats.

Depends on how they plan to distribute them.
Pick and choose for a winter gift.
LP + ship + isk
Aur + ship

LP + ship + isk I think is the only one worthy enough for slightly different stats.

yeah aur for custom skins

lp and isk for faction ships...

aur lp and isk for custom skins of faction variants...

**** that noise. ISK or LP should be the only viable currency. AUR can go **** itself.

It would be great for standings and lp. Then a lot of NPC corps would have more meaning than "what mods are in their LP, do they have clone services, how many combat lvl4 agents do they have" Some obscure NPC corps could have really stylish skins, but oops, they only have cargo lvl4s. Industrialists sell these nice painted ships they get from the LP store. Or miner corp lp etc.

fair enough but if you want vanity skins you have to pay RL monies for it and the only way to do that is aur... get used to it...

Bullshit. AUR can stay the sole domain of Space Barbie. Don't mix stupid with spaceships.

E: I get what you're asking for, but I highly doubt CCP will ever allow players to design pure vanity skins (outside of contests, maybe) for the simple fact that it increases the number of art assets in the game. So yeah, keep stupid out of spaceships.

Do you want them to remove PLEX too? Pehaps you think they should remove subscriptions too.
How do expect them to pay for ****?

Hate to break it to you but AUR is the future and will soon replace PLEX.

Deal with it.

You dock at an interbus station ... you get an interbus catalyst ...
You dock at a boundless creations station ... you get a boundless creations catalyst ...
etc etc.

uhm ... what about the simplest of all possibilities ?

You dock at an interbus station ... you get an interbus catalyst ...
You dock at a boundless creations station ... you get a boundless creations catalyst ...
etc etc.

No ?

No.



This.



No.

All that paying with Aurum means is that you can either pay with ISK or with Cash for the item, with more granularity that the shotgun approach that purchasing PLEX involves.

Anything else is mindless hysteria.

+50% Optimal Range bonus for the IZ Cati? For AUR?

And you seriously thought they'd abandoned trying to sneak in pay-to-win?

Such charmingly nai'ive optimism.

+50% Optimal Range bonus for the IZ Cati? For AUR?

And you seriously thought they'd abandoned trying to sneak in pay-to-win?

Such charmingly nai'ive optimism.

+50% Optimal Range bonus for the IZ Cati? For AUR?

And you seriously thought they'd abandoned trying to sneak in pay-to-win?

Such charmingly nai'ive optimism.

That's a normal bonus...

this post is not on topic. also, you are not allowed to discuss moderation on the forums.

Anything to do with AUR....ummm...No.

Just no.

ISK and/or LP, or nothing.

Raw Aur sure. That's why the Ishukone Scorpion never flew. Yet if they add the ability to trade in a player made ship + Aur, for a special painted ship with same stats. What is the problem? Specially if they continue to spread out away from Aur. Like the lp faction avatar clothing.

If they limit the Aur painted ships to "gold" colors yet let other corps paint jobs be sold as LP, or even rare bpc drops. Why not.

Would rather they simply allow you to trade ship+ISK or ship+LP for a new paintjob. Not at all interested in paying RL cash for in-game items when I already pay a subscription to play the game. Regardless of how harmless AUR might actually be, it's Yet Another Currency that we really don't need in the game. Plus, the current inability to trade AUR for anything else means it can pretty much "go outside and play hide and go **** yourself."

Then you never would get the Aur supplied colors. Just because you wouldn't use the method does not mean it's not valid. Then people who bought the Aur painted ships could in turn put it on market for isk. Then you could buy it anyway.
AUR is in the game to suck surplus plex out of the system. Yet its currently a lousy system to do so since there is nothing worthwhile in the NeX store. Vanity ships would work a lot better than pants.
This proposition is also under the idea Aur wouldn't be the only method to obtaining special colors. Only Specific colors not obtainable elsewhere.

Then you never would get the Aur supplied colors. Just because you wouldn't use the method does not mean it's not valid. Then people who bought the Aur painted ships could in turn put it on market for isk. Then you could buy it anyway.
AUR is in the game to suck surplus plex out of the system. Yet its currently a lousy system to do so since there is nothing worthwhile in the NeX store. Vanity ships would work a lot better than pants.
This proposition is also under the idea Aur wouldn't be the only method to obtaining special colors. Only Specific colors not obtainable elsewhere.

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Rationally you make a lot of sense, but until there is a direct AUR <-> ISK conversion the danger of pay to win is persistent because AUR is outside of the game on one side or the other. Conversion in the form of clothing or whatever doesn't really cut it. Once you have that conversion AUR doesn't even need to exist, so we might as well just get rid of it. Hence my aversion to anything related to AUR in the slightest.

One all the more so, because I don't feel that CCP has earned the right to "double-dip" my RL wallet, to put it very charitably.

I don't know how much more succinctly I can put it. Its Vanity.

CCP pretty much learned is lesson. Just look at the ishukone scorpion. They abandoned the idea because it bypassed player industrialists When the players objected, CCP abandoned the idea tell it could be sensibly offered with a proper trade. As NeX was shortsightedly (debatable) designed to only accept Aur trade.

This is true, but in EVE ships get destroyed all the time. So would your vanity ships be like your vanity clothing? If so, that'd be pretty ****** up.
This could be yet another issue with the colors. Why not let player industrialists profit from the new schemes? You take yet another manufacture avenue away from players which deprives them of that sort of entertainment.

I don't know how much more succinctly I can put it. Its Vanity. There is nothing there to force the double-dip.
CCP pretty much learned is lesson. Just look at the ishukone scorpion (exactly the same as a normal scorpion). They abandoned the idea because it bypassed player industrialists When the players objected, CCP abandoned the idea tell it could be sensibly offered with a proper trade. As NeX was shortsightedly (debatable) designed to only accept Aur trade.

If they introduce faction variants of each ship then that's good. Market clutter.. who cares?

I would prefer to see paintjobs as a seperate process you can apply later, but it doesn't matter.

I actually like AURUM. It's not "pay to win" if you can buy it with ISK. If ship skins are purely aesthetic then they should only be available for AUR. Funny how the ones who complain are the ones who can't afford it...