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SXYGeeK
Gallente
do you
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.10.04 16:54:00 -
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With the recent wave of account hackings and CCP's reminder again to "Protect Your Accounts" I would like to reboot an inactive Proposal.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=131673
With the amount of time we invest into this game and the damage that can be caused by hacking perhaps greater than that of a credit card theft to some of us there is, in my opinion, not enough done by CCP to give us the tools to protect our accounts.
There are a lot of suggestions about how security could be improved but the single best improvement would be RSA authentication.
Blizzard uses this for WOW and we make fun of how "trivial" it is to level a WOW character, yet they have a better level of protection than our EVE characters.
Please don't take it that I am recommending you go play WOW... but they have a very well done implementation of RSA security.
here's the FAQ that will give a little idea of how it works.
http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=24660
some key things to note.
-keys are optional, If you do not have a key setup on your account you can login with username and password as usual.
-once a key is added to the account it will be required for all logins.
-a single key can be added to multiple accounts, it won't mean they are linked just that they all accept the same key.
-ideally keys would be available for <$10 US, CCP could even offer them for 1 PLEX, optionally software keys would be available for all the smart phone app stores so we can use our phones as a key.
I believe this is one of the most important meta game issues we have at this time, please discuss and promote this issue, do not let this thread die again.
-We So SeXy |
Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.10.04 16:58:00 -
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As a former WoW player, I definitely support such a system. Its not unduly complicated or hindering for users, and provides a level of security that few other features can match.
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Hadiax
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Posted - 2010.10.04 16:58:00 -
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I'd definatly say this is a good idea. Mainly because its optional, people will have the option to better protect their accounts but aren't forced to buy anything either.
Can't go wrong with choice :p
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mickeydilab1
GeoCorp.
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.10.04 17:14:00 -
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Great idea to have additional layer of security, and it wont cost much.
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Laviski
UK Corp
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.10.04 17:27:00 -
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Supported!!!!
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MC SAKE
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Posted - 2010.10.04 18:08:00 -
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I support this. Would be great to have iphone/android apps for this as well.
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Vuk Lau
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Posted - 2010.10.04 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: Vuk Lau on 04/10/2010 18:11:47
I like the proposal. Will investigate more and most likely raise it for the next meeting.
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Seigneur Doa
freelancers inc
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Posted - 2010.10.04 18:18:00 -
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Great idea and as you said it's simple to use.
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Pheobe Transista
GeoCorp.
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.10.04 18:41:00 -
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Definitely support better security options such as this. |
Javajunky
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Posted - 2010.10.04 18:42:00 -
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I threw this post up back in February or sometime thereabouts, continue to support.
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DeapSpace MadHatter
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Posted - 2010.10.04 18:44:00 -
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I would totally put down 300 million isk to have a more secure account. |
BuzzBoy
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Posted - 2010.10.04 18:45:00 -
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Supported !
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Lou Cypher
Infinite Improbability Inc
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.10.04 19:11:00 -
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yo
Shrike > Good Morning Northen Monekys, this is God speaking. |
Mynas Atoch
Eternity INC.
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.10.04 19:13:00 -
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Following best industry practice in account security matters should not require users to request. The unique metagaming that CCP's games are marketed on should result in CCP LEADING the industry in protection of its players.
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Reza Najafi
UK Corp
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.10.04 21:25:00 -
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Edited by: Reza Najafi on 04/10/2010 21:26:44
I support this.
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Saithe
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.04 22:08:00 -
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There's also this thing I recently discovered. It's called your brain. I laugh at these people who cry about being victims of Identity theft and account hacking. Very FEW accounts are actually 'hacked'. Instead, the account info is phished because someone isn't using their brain.
I personally run my entire PC with no antivirus, no firewall, and I run with DMZ on. Never once have I gotten any form of spyware, any virus, and only ONCE has my Eve account been compromised. And that was a lucky guess due to someones computer storing passwords in Firefox.
So, in short; to better protect your account, USE YOUR ****ING HEAD WHEN GOING TO WEBSITES. Seriously, why the **** do you need to enter your account information ANYWHERE but eveonline.com, eveonline gate, or the actual Eve client?
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SXYGeeK
Gallente
do you
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.10.04 22:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Saithe
There's also this thing I recently discovered. It's called your brain. I laugh at these people who cry about being victims of Identity theft and account hacking. Very FEW accounts are actually 'hacked'. Instead, the account info is phished because someone isn't using their brain.
I personally run my entire PC with no antivirus, no firewall, and I run with DMZ on. Never once have I gotten any form of spyware, any virus, and only ONCE has my Eve account been compromised. And that was a lucky guess due to someones computer storing passwords in Firefox.
So, in short; to better protect your account, USE YOUR ****ING HEAD WHEN GOING TO WEBSITES. Seriously, why the **** do you need to enter your account information ANYWHERE but eveonline.com, eveonline gate, or the actual Eve client?
This may work for some, and has so far worked for me as well, but I am not naive enough to believe that I am better than every security threat out there.
this Is why I employ every security precaution at my disposal when dealing with things like my bank, utility companies, ext...
I would like to have more options for security for EVE as I have invested a significant amount of my time there.
However, not all users of Eve are as capable as you / or I , nor do I think we wish to limit the possible subscriber base to PC security enthusiasts.
also, there's no need for the rude language in the Assembly Hall
-We So SeXy |
Saithe
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.04 22:39:00 -
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I just find it amusing when people think they should rely upon someone else for account protection. Yes, security protections are useful; however the greatest security protection one can employ is yourself.
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Wikis
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Posted - 2010.10.04 22:46:00 -
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GIVE ME RSA PROTECTION - N-O-W
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Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:10:00 -
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I love how Saithe is soapboxing about "using your brain" when he himself brainlessly compromised one of his own accounts. Everyone always believes they're too smart to get phished, hacked or compromised. It never fails. But most of the time, they aren't.
I support this product and/or service, because more protection can't hurt and might help.
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codex09
Minmatar
do you
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:11:00 -
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Yes it would be great if there was more protection but not if it is going to cost players even more $$$ to play.
The very best protection is that which the end user deploys themselves & when 98% of hacks are actually more along the lines of the person getting the p/w etc from the accounts owner due to being a friend, relative, or because they buy ISK or frequent sites that most players wouldn't bother with <hacking sites, Pirate software sites the list goes on> Why should everyone else have to pay for that?
Extra security is always a good thing when it comes to computer games, BUT no matter how much security a game has nothing will stop it from happening if people continue to see their account details as something that isn't really that important, or they continue to frequent Phishing sites, Pirate Software sites etc etc.
There are people who want to die & It is Our Job To make sure they get their wish as fast as possible!?!
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
CareBears on Fire
The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:50:00 -
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As long as it's optional, yes indeedy. I love the little key fob things. I just hope I don't confuse it with the one I have for work.
--Vel
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Saelie
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Posted - 2010.10.05 00:31:00 -
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Supporting option for increased security.
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count sporkula
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Posted - 2010.10.05 01:23:00 -
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i would certainly consider buying it
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Jeff Curro
The Rising Stars
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.10.05 01:46:00 -
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ftw
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stupid monkey
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Posted - 2010.10.05 04:32:00 -
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sounds good
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Demondrew
THORN Syndicate
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.05 06:57:00 -
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great idea protect my stuff ccp!
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theWoman
do you
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.10.05 06:57:00 -
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yeah baby yeah
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Drake Draconis
Shadow Cadre
Shadow Confederation
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Posted - 2010.10.05 08:22:00 -
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Edited by: Drake Draconis on 05/10/2010 08:23:32
No amount of key fobs or additional security will ever beat common sense.
9 times out of 10 the problem starts with the idiot at the keyboard.... the ones who click on links to sites that are not legitimate... the ones who download software without restraint.
You can't fix stupid... and I seriously doubt CCP will even bother to do this properly if such a proposal would come to pass.
As long as its option I don't have a problem with it.
But mark my words... this is a patch at best... not a solution.
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Nuts Nougat
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.10.05 09:49:00 -
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Passwordless login a la SSH please.
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