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energypills
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.01 21:47:00 -
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Was it mainly the banning of so many bot miners? |

Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
437
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Posted - 2012.08.01 21:48:00 -
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Drone nerf, bot banning, extended Hulkageddon... Pick one and theorycraft away. Nothing Found |

Medea Zarr
MILLITECH
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Posted - 2012.08.01 21:53:00 -
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I blame the free market, but thats me,
regards |

Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
255
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Posted - 2012.08.01 22:07:00 -
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I still blame the players, get rid of them, and stuff won't cost so much.
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Alara IonStorm
2820
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Posted - 2012.08.01 22:09:00 -
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I am sure if I try hard enough and play fast and loose with the so called truth I can find someway to link this to the NeX store.
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baltec1
Bat Country
1779
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Posted - 2012.08.01 22:11:00 -
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10 months of hyper inflation followed by a massive bot purge and drone mineral nerf. The two ice interdictions only impacted ice and towers but also left their mark. Hulkageddon did nothing to mineral prices. |

Melodee619
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.01 22:20:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:10 months of hyper inflation followed by a massive bot purge and drone mineral nerf. The two ice interdictions only impacted ice and towers but also left their mark. Hulkageddon did nothing to mineral prices.
You should be in Scope mate, in there Goons are responsible for everything from CCP over reacting to the Australians sucking in Olympics LOL... It never ceases to amaze me that goons instill such fear in HS farmers an mission runners. Dont get me wrong, I've fought goons for years off an on, but they are just playing the game as it is meant to be played. As for the economy, Jihad/hulkageddon did not impact it.
It was caused as has been said by other things. Sadly CCP always pander to the botters an afk miners who actively refuse to take any responsibility for their own gaming.
Hell back in Jihad I was a miner an we had our own intel chan lol (of coarse half of GF were in it).... but the idea was sound :D |

Shalua Rui
FEROX AQUILA
75
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Posted - 2012.08.01 22:39:00 -
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Melodee619 wrote:...playing the game as it is meant to be played.
I highly doubt CCP would agree with your there... In fact, they don't, or they wouldn't try to fix it. "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way."
Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 |

energypills
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.01 22:50:00 -
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The cost of a Maelstrom is 200 mil I believe. I remember when it was 72. Before this around 100. - 120 that is a huge price change. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8851
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Posted - 2012.08.01 22:52:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Melodee619 wrote:...playing the game as it is meant to be played. I highly doubt CCP would agree with your there... In fact, they don't, or they wouldn't try to fix it. What are they trying to fix? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Phill Esteen
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
105
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Posted - 2012.08.01 22:52:00 -
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The reason is that Comrade Mittani and his space-socialist empire "Goonswarm" have introduced an unsustainable free-clone healthcare plan, and they can only afford to pay for it by amassing huge quantities of inter-alliance debt. Goonswarm is now trying to pay down the interest and inflate their way out of debt by literally printing isk. GÇô postum faex est GÇô-á
never forget
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Gabrielle Lamb
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.08.01 22:55:00 -
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Removal of trit price cap. Removal of T1 modules on rats. Removal of Drone Minerals Bots getting banned |

Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management Unified Church of the Unobligated
504
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Posted - 2012.08.01 22:58:00 -
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My Little Pony sex trafficking. That is all. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims. |

Hiyora Akachi
Bling Ring Tax Evaders
56
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Posted - 2012.08.01 23:07:00 -
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New Lunar Republic is amassing huge quantities of items to overthrow Celestia. Taking huge sums of items off the market while demand stays high. Less items and high demand = Higher prices.
Goonswarm is all a front, Mittani is actually Princess Luna. |

Garreth Vlox
Sons Of 0din Dark Therapy
31
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Posted - 2012.08.01 23:37:00 -
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energypills wrote:Was it mainly the banning of so many bot miners?
They banned a **** ton of bots, hulkageddon has been going for months and people have been market pvping their asses off to take advantage of the above mentioned bad crazy on the market which results in prices that make you wonder where all the miners went. |

baltec1
Bat Country
1779
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Posted - 2012.08.01 23:49:00 -
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Hiyora Akachi wrote:New Lunar Republic is amassing huge quantities of items to overthrow Celestia. Taking huge sums of items off the market while demand stays high. Less items and high demand = Higher prices. Goonswarm is all a front, Mittani is actually Princess Luna.
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Pipa Porto
601
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Posted - 2012.08.02 00:00:00 -
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energypills wrote:Was it mainly the banning of so many bot miners?
Drone Poo Meta0 Drops Incursions Isk Fauceting Pax Amarria Nerf (nocx only) Big Bot Purge HAG (bigger this year than previous years. Per CCP Diagoras, a 40% drop in HS mining in the first ~2 weeks) I think there was another Trit ceiling item, but I don't remember EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |

Charles Baker
Federal Mineral Acquisition VORTEX RISING
148
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Posted - 2012.08.02 00:04:00 -
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99% sure that it was the drone and mission drop nerfs. |

Lipbite
Express Hauler
161
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Posted - 2012.08.02 00:12:00 -
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It's funny how opinions changed lately: 3+ months ago most answers here would be "incursions caused 100% yearly price raise!!! nerf em" - but suddenly prices didn't drop after incursions nerf. So correct answer is - "combination of hulkageddon, drone poo nerf, bots ban, mission loot changes". |

Pipa Porto
601
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Posted - 2012.08.02 00:16:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:It's funny how opinions changed lately: 3+ months ago most answers here would be "incursions caused 100% yearly price raise!!! nerf em" - but suddenly prices didn't drop after incursions nerf. So correct answer is - "combination of hulkageddon, drone poo nerf, bots ban, mission loot changes".
... because the Isk was still floating around the economy.
When a boom happens and everybody's rich all of a sudden, the disappearance of the cause of the boom doesn't all of a sudden make everyone poor, so prices stay elevated for a while. Just like it's taken time since the Drone nerf for Min prices to rise. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1754
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Posted - 2012.08.02 00:18:00 -
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It's those damn Icelandic elves again! The underpants gnomes of Eve  |

baltec1
Bat Country
1779
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Posted - 2012.08.02 00:40:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:It's funny how opinions changed lately: 3+ months ago most answers here would be "incursions caused 100% yearly price raise!!! nerf em" - but suddenly prices didn't drop after incursions nerf. So correct answer is - "combination of hulkageddon, drone poo nerf, bots ban, mission loot changes".
Prices started to fall just after the nerf to isk fountains. Hulkageddon had little to no impact upon the markets. |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
266
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Posted - 2012.08.02 00:52:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Lipbite wrote:It's funny how opinions changed lately: 3+ months ago most answers here would be "incursions caused 100% yearly price raise!!! nerf em" - but suddenly prices didn't drop after incursions nerf. So correct answer is - "combination of hulkageddon, drone poo nerf, bots ban, mission loot changes". Prices started to fall just after the nerf to isk fountains. Hulkageddon had little to no impact upon the markets. HAG significantly decreased mining output in highsec per stats given by CCP. On higher end minerals, sure, it would be meaningless, but it should have cause at least some spiking in low ends. Not sure how much trit speculation there was around other changes but that could easily dampen market reactions to HAG I guess. |

Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
386
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Posted - 2012.08.02 02:45:00 -
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Anyone mention the next patch is coming with a buff to mining?
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |

TravisWB
59
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Posted - 2012.08.02 03:23:00 -
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The real reason price inflation is out of control is because the EVE economy is a COMMAND ECONOMY.
It is the opposite of a free market which cannot exist so long as CCP keeps nerfing it.
CCP changes how things work, that completely changes the economy and before the market can adjust CCP CHANGES IT AGAIN.
It is a socialist utopian COMMAND economy working just like all command economies work. Former Soviet Union, current Cuba, EVE online.
It has totally messed up the game. |

Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
86
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Posted - 2012.08.02 05:08:00 -
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TravisWB wrote:The real reason price inflation is out of control is because the EVE economy is a COMMAND ECONOMY.
It is the opposite of a free market which cannot exist so long as CCP keeps nerfing it.
CCP changes how things work, that completely changes the economy and before the market can adjust CCP CHANGES IT AGAIN.
It is a socialist utopian COMMAND economy working just like all command economies work. Former Soviet Union, current Cuba, EVE online.
It has totally messed up the game.
You're going places kid. |

Chatte Noire
PepperPark Deep Space Operations
15
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Posted - 2012.08.02 05:28:00 -
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TravisWB wrote:It is a socialist utopian COMMAND economy working just like all command economies work. Former Soviet Union, current Cuba, EVE online.
Yeah. No pricing regulations. No measures against monopolies. No tariffs on goods. No restrictions on tradeable amounts. No protection of customers. A true socialist economy. Yip yip.
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Mal Ishos
Red Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.08.02 05:39:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Hulkageddon had little to no impact upon the markets.
You should confer with your esteemed comrade Pipa Porto as you seem to be straying pretty far from the party line. A ~40% reduction in Highsec mining in the first two weeks of Hulkageddon had to have some impact upon the markets. And, there's no denying that the indefinite extension of Hulkageddon with ~bonus prize~ an additional generous bounty on exhumers was an intentional ploy by your overlords to further manipulate the Tech market in order to line their pockets. To be honest, it's really nothing to be ashamed of. Checkmate, Goons. You win EVE again, but own up to it. Pop that collar; you earned it.  |

Arkturus McFadden
Sonoran Shadow Black Mesa Complex
153
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Posted - 2012.08.02 05:40:00 -
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Nerfs.
That is all. All will be well again in New Eden in the next several months I'm sure..  |

Pipa Porto
603
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Posted - 2012.08.02 06:04:00 -
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Mal Ishos wrote:baltec1 wrote:Hulkageddon had little to no impact upon the markets. You should confer with your esteemed comrade Pipa Porto as you seem to be straying pretty far from the party line. A ~40% reduction in Highsec mining in the first two weeks of Hulkageddon had to have some impact upon the markets. And, there's no denying that the indefinite extension of Hulkageddon with ~bonus prize~ an additional generous bounty on exhumers was an intentional ploy by your overlords to further manipulate the Tech market in order to line their pockets. To be honest, it's really nothing to be ashamed of. Checkmate, Goons. You win EVE again, but own up to it. Pop that collar; you earned it. 
Previous HAGs didn't have much affect on mineral prices (market data's pretty clear on that). This one is a bit harder to judge.
In any case, the effect of a 40% drop in HS mining (part from HAG, part from a bot banwave) is probably relatively small compared to the >50% reduction in EVE-Wide mineral production. Drone Poop and Meta0 drops almost certainly amounted to more minerals than all of EVE's miners.
We also can't see the affect very easily because the Drone Poop/Meta0 nerfs, the nerf of a few NPC mineral faucets, and a banwave on mining bots all happened at about the same time as HAG started.
HAG very certainly did not account for all (probably not even most) of the mineral price increase, but I think "little to no" would be an overstatement. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
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