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GUBZZ
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Posted - 2010.10.20 05:52:00 -
[691]
no to micro-transactions entirely
i'd sooner the monthly sub went up than that
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JcJet
Caldari Pretenders Inc Tower of Dark Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.20 17:00:00 -
[692]
Yes, as, i think i wrote before, higher subscription fee is far better than any microtransactions.
because higher cost of subscription not spoil the current game world.
and any microtransactions will cast a shadow on this universe. So it's will be just another MMO that you spend time, money, and then sell your account and forget all of this.
I think that's why this game still alive and why there is so much players which plays 5 and more years.
I'm here because of this too. Actually, i'm not playing games very much, especially any online rpg, fps - it's simply boring and obvious to me. But i still play eve, and it's will be... no, it's arleady, very dissapointing that we have such topics there with plex remaping and this. It's feels like soon we loose this atmosphere that makes eve so "eve". And it's will be just a moment in memories, like from other very old great games or movies... It's still be alive, and maybe even more proffitable for CCP, but i think it's will be not a game which can "lock" imagination beyond the game. Just another waste of time for peoples that have to many of is. Sorry about this wall of text, trying to write some complicated thing. In short, if something of this, including remap for plex will be implemented, i will loose a last reason to be interested in this game... ---
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Laina Delapore
Caldari Red Sun Industries Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.10.22 10:36:00 -
[693]
No.
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T'Amber
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.10.22 13:38:00 -
[694]
Originally by: Cromo Effect SERIOUSLY T'AMBER, I AM SURPRISED AT HOW MUCH YOU ARE TWISTING CCP'S WORDS TO PUSH YOUR OWN AGENDA HERE, VERY UNLIKE YOU.
I don't think I twisted there words :|
My agenda is that I already pay 200$ a month, and I don't want to have to pay more to get everything out of game. You are right about other games moving to a microtransactional based business model, but not all of them were successful. I'm not sure it will be best for our community, but we'll just have to see how things turn out.
-T'amber
[VANIR / AESIR WARS] C o m i n g S o o n Ö
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T'Amber
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.10.22 14:12:00 -
[695]
NO 79.03% | YES 5.02% | COSMETIC ONLY 11.23% | OTHER 4.73%
Vote totals are unconfirmed.
[VANIR / AESIR WARS] C o m i n g S o o n Ö
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Sagara Takeda
Black Dragon Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.10.22 15:57:00 -
[696]
My vote: Yes.
Interesting, this is probably the most biased sounding original post (poll) I've ever read. This poll could have been a very neutral and easy survey thread to make, but a ton of very unnecessary comments/opinions were made by T'Amber. People can figure out what they like on their own, you don't need to strike a huge campaign against micro-transactions in the poll itself. Very unprofessional, I do say.
Reason for my vote: I do not believe they will really affect the game to the extent that many of the doomsayers believe it would.
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Rawbone
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Posted - 2010.10.23 04:30:00 -
[697]
No
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Velan Wolf
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.10.23 13:07:00 -
[698]
NO
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GavinCapacitor
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Posted - 2010.10.23 14:57:00 -
[699]
No
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Kawth
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Posted - 2010.10.23 15:32:00 -
[700]
No.
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.23 15:55:00 -
[701]
***** No.
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Garrance
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Posted - 2010.10.24 16:45:00 -
[702]
I say absolutely no. While 'cosmetic only' sounds innocent I have two concerns: 1) The first thing CCP mentioned after saying 'cosmetic only' was re-mapping. That is not cosmetic, it allows faster training - derrrr! 2) Once you open something like this up, it mushrooms. Looks at taxes. When the first tax hit am sure most people said something like 'Oh it's not too bad - it's only a penny on the dollar!'... and now look at taxes.
I already see people making additional 'plex for stuff' suggestions, such as painting our ships etc., while that one is at least 'cosmetic only' you know it won't stop there. Am sure many will disagree, but am trying to look at the long-term as I care about the game.
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Tactical Miner
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.10.24 17:44:00 -
[703]
No
Basically the problem with this on the part of CCP is that they are looking at this as money. CCP is not generating enough money to develop content, pay rent, or buy pizza.
I think CCP should fix what is wrong with this game rather than trying to patch their money hole with crap like this.
The reason why CCP is not generating enough money to support operations is the player base is not growing sufficiently. This is evident by the recent offers for second account activation at a discount for active players. The current model is that new players give EVE a try then quit weeks to months later.
Why? Because there are sever things broke within EVE for new players to get hooked.
- Gank in Hi Sec
Learning skills to learn skills faster is lame (for new players) The overall lack of trust in the community - SCAMS! The time it takes to train for anything decent to fly is prohibitively long to the average ADHD youth.
Basically, most of the rants on the "New to EVE" forum that have been recycled over and over are a concern to the growth of the player base. Try giving in to some of the more protective aspects of the new players so they are here long enough to get hooked.
Why? CCP has done a good job of hooking the players that have the fortitude for investment over the long term. The available market for others who have similar staying power is rapidly shrinking. Lets face it, how many potential players do you know personally that are willing to spend 6 months learning how to fly a digital space ship into pvp/pve interactions? One, two? That's the extent of people I know, and I invited them to play to grow the player base. Yes, they still play the game too. Do your part and help grow the player base so CCP won't need to resort to microtransactions to fund the pizza parties.
Otherwise, CCP will be required to make changes to fund the basic operations of the company. These may include microtransactions, low SP = gank proof 1.0 systems that new player start in and WH into the real EVE after completing the tutorials, increasing the monthly cost of the game (bad idea), change the initial skill set to include many of the learning skill already complete, AND/OR sell the game to a publisher that will not care about the community over profits, etc.
CCP has indicated that they need and are willing to do something to increase their revenue for profits/liabilities. We need to do something as a community that helps maintain the player base so CCP is less stressed to execute a bad idea.
For every scam/gank/blob that causes a player to quit playing, CCP is that much closer to making microtransactions a reality. |
De'Vadder
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.25 15:52:00 -
[704]
NO
tl:dr: Good game CCP, too bad your killing it already.
I will most likely be cancelling my subscriptions on Incursiun anyways if Plex for Remaps is implemented.
I have played BF:H and Atlantica Online and i swore to myself to never accept that crap again. Not a single day.
I know there are already Plex for ISK and that only works because the ISK price is so low. 15Ç only buys 2 average Pvp ships and thus you dont really feel a difference between good Isk grinders and payers. Noone pays the ~50Ç to outfit a real pimp ship. And if some people do, it doesnt affect the rest of us that much because there are only so few of them. Especially so few of them actually using those ships to Pvp.
So it doesnt matter wether new items would be only of cosmetic nature. If they are sellable for ISK (what i suppose they will) they WILL increase the prize of Plex, even if you cant buy them for Plex but for normal money because than less people will buy Plex to get ISK but those new items. That WILL (and can only) lead to a better ÇtoISK conversion rate (better as in more ISK per Ç) thus making it a more viable choice to do. What will of course mean that pimped-by-actual-money-ships will have more impact on everyday-Eve. What easily might add up to a point where you will have to pay to stay at the top. And while i have no intentions or skills to even get to the top, i WILL NOT keep paying a single Ç for a game where great success comes by more RL wealth. If i wanted i would still be playing BF:H.
And exactly this will happen with Plex for remap. It will greatly further the demand for Plex which is capped at 1 per month*account currently (duh!).
And no, you cant have my stuff, i will keep playing till my ISK for Plex run out and then i will finally be free again. Actually that is probably a good thing about Plex for remap.
But i am sure CCP knows that, they even have hired at least one Ex-BF:H dev. What is probably happening here is that CCP realises they wont be able to keep getting more subscriptions and thus now reached the point where there concern is no longer to make Eve better and bigger (and thus earn more money from more players) but to begin milking those that are there. Its quite a surprise that the very first iteration of this offers an ingame-advantage though. I would have expected cosmetic things first, then waiting till the new income from that shrinks, then add minor advantages, give up on those that wont accept that and wait again for everyone to stop buying it followed by less subtle advantages, again letting a part of the players go and again milking those that stay and so on. Actually that is the way most MMO's will go. Once you begin to offer ingame advantages there is no turning back as you will already have lost a number of subscribers. I know i sound bitter, yet, this is the end of Eve. And why is there still nothing that sets content apart from signature? Is that intentional or technically imposible? |
Karelyna
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Posted - 2010.10.25 16:05:00 -
[705]
Edited by: Karelyna on 25/10/2010 16:11:15 NO
I didnt think they were serious about this. PLEX for remaps alone is enough to quit.
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Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro How much is there left to add? We already have plex for isk / isk for almost anything, so we might as well go all in- I'd like to see a plex payment option for character transfers, portrait swaps and pizza.
I know noone reads the whole thread and quoting first page is even more useless. BUT you are wrong, what this changes is the demand. Right now CCP gets no of subscribers*15$ everymonth. No more no less. Allowing Plex to be used for anything but game time drives up their prize in ISK and thus give people who pay more than 15$ a month a bigger advantage than what they get today.
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Shaemell Buttleson
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2010.10.25 16:13:00 -
[706]
NO * Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. - CCP Ildoge
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Orphella
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Posted - 2010.10.25 17:23:00 -
[707]
As the Op of this thread is a former CSM and is in the process of leaving the game, I can only assume the worst |
Almaria Assalla
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Posted - 2010.10.25 18:25:00 -
[708]
NO.
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Nishachara
Special Operations Corp Mortal Destruction
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Posted - 2010.10.25 23:55:00 -
[709]
Edited by: Nishachara on 25/10/2010 23:59:24 NO
Just to add...eve is the second mmo i played in my life, the first one was requiem and it was more and more crappy and finnaly died(or its close to dying now) because of microtransactions. Imho in a pvp-centric mmo microtransactions are the game-killer.
no no no and NO... period.
and just to add one more (off topic thing)... imo the whole of gaming industry is plunging into corporate (in a bad sense) comercial crap since...idk 2005, in 5 years there will be no more games me (or some of you ) will want to play on the market mmo or not-mmo... CCp.. stay unique..hold on to your dream.
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mechtech
SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2010.10.26 03:56:00 -
[710]
HELL NO!
All new features should be part of the game, not bought with PLEX or real life dollars. New features should enrich the game, not enrich CCP while killing immersion!
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Smoogle
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Posted - 2010.10.26 06:12:00 -
[711]
No.
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Hello Fireworks
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Posted - 2010.10.26 07:11:00 -
[712]
no.
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Exordium8
Minmatar The Deep Space Armada Rising Phoenix Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.26 08:02:00 -
[713]
No --------------------------------- Pillage, then burn. Everything is air-droppable at least once. There is no 'overkill.' There is only 'open fire' and 'time to reload.
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Nex apparatu5
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Posted - 2010.10.26 08:03:00 -
[714]
No
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Lisa Amber
WEPRA CORP Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.26 08:15:00 -
[715]
NO
But I'd actually would like to see cosmetic only implemented microtransaction so CCP can take idiots money. Ability to blow up said cosmetics would be nice too. But real $ potential is in selling skill points (remap lol they're testing us), unique modules/ships etc it would be too tempting for ccp. Slippery rope, yes definitely.
btw props to you T'Amber for commiting to this
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star blazzer
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Posted - 2010.10.26 08:24:00 -
[716]
no
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serp greckon
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Posted - 2010.10.26 08:25:00 -
[717]
no
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ToranBrades
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2010.10.26 10:53:00 -
[718]
No.
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Syratus
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Posted - 2010.10.26 10:54:00 -
[719]
No.
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Lineage2CT1
Ptaag Capital Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.10.26 11:02:00 -
[720]
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