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DarthNefarius
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Posted - 2012.08.03 01:21:00 -
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CSM_minutes wrote:
CSM & CCP Meeting minutes, May 30th GÇô 1st June 2012
Page 87 of 165
Soundwave sheepishly mentioned CCP broke incursions and showed the CSM a graph depicting the drop off in incursions activity. There were many GÇ£Ohhh snapsGÇ¥ around the table. Ripard TegGÇÖs
analysis of incursion activity pre/post patch was mentioned by the CSM. The massive drop off of Vanguard sites was praised since they were relatively risk-free ISK.
Two step compared Incursion sites to WH sites and how quickly players de-risked both types of content. GÇ£That one with the frigatesGǪyouGÇÖd have to work to die in that."
Soundwave pointed out that people do die in incursions at rates higher than some other kinds of PvE content. He felt the main driver of incursions was social in nature, and the group PvE that the incursion sites provided was a good thing. The loss of it made him GÇ£a little bit sadGÇ¥ so fixes to de-nerf incursions would come out in June.
Soundwave also wants to take a look at the LP store to make them more of an ISK sink, possibly giving people a way to cut around tags in offers by spending more ISK.
UAxDEATH would like to know how any of that related to null sec,
If CSM was supposed to be about damage control it failed the Incursion community without any comments helpfull here.
The June 'rollback' was a farce and I tend to think the outcry about the OTAs in CCP Affinity's DEV blog was the only & real usefull feedback which will result in any help to the Incursion community...
I like to reiteriate the last sentence I quoted I think that appropriately shows the CSM7's view of HI SEC:
" UAxDEATH would like to know how any of that related to null sec,"
Thanks very much CCP Affinity for the Incursion changes of Inferno 1.2 thank you for nothing CSM7
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2012.08.03 17:13:00 -
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CSM minutes wrote:
Two step pointed out that a big barrier for new players was that most of the Incursion organizing was done through chat channels and not as much by corps and alliances, which made it harder for people to know where to go to join the better Incursion groups.
Interesting theory Two Step but your hypothesis falls flat in that the HI SEC Incursions which utilize chats have survived where the lo/NULL Incursions which relied on corps/alliances have absolutely died. The barriers to entry for the Incursion chats are alot less an obstacle ( what chat asks for API verification? ) even though there is no mechanic for advertising them in Eve.
I think what you see as a barrier to entry actually was viewed as the opposite to many fed up with corp/alliance politics ( not that there is any lack of policking in the Incursion communities unortunely but it is easier to escape/ignore & contine to be part of the community )
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2012.08.03 18:18:00 -
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Hatsumi Kobayashi wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:If CSM was supposed to be about damage control it failed the Incursion community without any comments helpfull here.
The June 'rollback' was a farce and I tend to think the outcry about the OTAs in CCP Affinity's DEV blog was the only real usefull feedback which will result in any help to the dying Incursion communities...
I like to reiteriate the last sentence I quoted I think that appropriately shows the CSM7's view of HI SEC:
" UAxDEATH would like to know how any of that related to null sec,"
Thanks very much CCP Affinity for the Incursion changes of Inferno 1.2 thank you for nothing CSM7 Nice of you to selectively quote things in order to give them a completely different meaning; right after the comma at the end of your bolded quote comes "followed by other CSMs asking to get back on topic" BECAUSE THIS SESSION OF THE SUMMIT WAS ABOUT NULLSEC, NOT INCURSIONS OR HI SEC. Way to be a complete bad.
Hmmm I did pull this out of the NULL not the CONTENT section, but the last time I checked Incursions are still in NULL in my journal ( and not a single NULL SEC MOM has died since they were 'broken' ) but I think I've proven my point that if something is damaged that doesn't affect this CSM individually they are not around for the rest of the community which it affects.
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