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Sebastiann Kane
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Posted - 2010.10.10 12:30:00 -
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When you were young in this game and you decided on flying a certain type of ship and then spent forever and a day training it to perfect, were you disappointed with the results or were you very happy with it.
I say this because when you are young you have a hell of a lot of training ahead of you and you always have an ideal ship in mind and before you even start with the guns/spaceship much of your time is spent on those pesky backskills.
And if you are not happy you could have spent 5 months training a ship to perfection only to find that it was not the ship that you thought it would be and then have to look at something else.
Your valuable answers please.
P.S mine is the Pilgrim and a Harbinger and a Zealot. One for solo and two for small fleet
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ivana beabear
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Posted - 2010.10.10 12:33:00 -
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Edited by: ivana beabear on 10/10/2010 12:36:31
im the alt of an early 05char and.........
pilgrim is terribad, zealot and harbinger wont dissapoint you.
yes i have trained for ships that turned out to be crap.
mostly the skills for them are usefull for ships that aint so crap,
for eg the curse you will be able to fly off the back of the skills for the pilgrim is pretty aewsome
there are very few truly useless ships/skills in eve. so i doubt you will ever totaly waste your sp on anything.
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Alyth
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.10.10 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastiann Kane When you were young in this game and you decided on flying a certain type of ship and then spent forever and a day training it to perfect, were you disappointed with the results or were you very happy with it.
I say this because when you are young you have a hell of a lot of training ahead of you and you always have an ideal ship in mind and before you even start with the guns/spaceship much of your time is spent on those pesky backskills.
And if you are not happy you could have spent 5 months training a ship to perfection only to find that it was not the ship that you thought it would be and then have to look at something else.
Your valuable answers please.
P.S mine is the Pilgrim and a Harbinger and a Zealot. One for solo and two for small fleet
Atm I am a tad disappointed with the performance of the Gallente blasterboats that I specialise in however that's outweighed by how much fun they are to fly. 'Throns of all fits are just sex in space, especially dual rep fits vs anything that's not a neut-heavy ship. The first ship I ever saw (besides my velator ofc ) was a blasterthron and it was love at first sight. Then I looked up the rest of the Gallente blasterboat line and thought 'these are the ships for me'.
So yes I am a bit unhappy atm but am living in hope of a Gallente tweak to make blasterboats more than the target practice they currently are.
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.10.10 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastiann Kane When you were young in this game and you decided on flying a certain type of ship and then spent forever and a day training it to perfect, were you disappointed with the results or were you very happy with it.
I never thought about it really.
I did want to be nerf-proof tho, since whenever I finished training about X, Y was already better.
and wadda you know, now I'm nerfproof ---
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ivana beabear
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Posted - 2010.10.10 12:41:00 -
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no matter what ship you fly, given enough time it will be both nerfed and boosted. prob more then once,
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.10.10 12:41:00 -
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"Perfection" doesn't exist, so aiming for that only sets you up for disappointmentà and it has far more to do with execution than stats anyway.
So I've been happy with the results of my training. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Forum Guy
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Posted - 2010.10.10 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: Forum Guy on 10/10/2010 13:15:47 I'm just training this time around for ships I consider to look the best without worrying how they perform.
Prophecy, Maelstrom, Anathena and Damnation plus for other reasons the Zealot, widow and Tengu.
Notice no Gallente, most of their ships look like they should have an outer sheath or like a sack of spuds.
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.10.10 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 10/10/2010 13:16:01
Originally by: Sebastiann Kane When you were young in this game and you decided on flying a certain type of ship and then spent forever and a day training it to perfect
I never did that. I always crosstrained heavily and mostly just to L3/L4. Nerfproofing FTW. Only every once in a while did I bother to go "closer to perfection" with some of the ships I already enjoyed flying, but not that often. There was no serious disappointment at any time.
P.S. Now I have all sub-battleship ones trained up, including all T2 gear for them. Well, ok, not heavy/sentry T2 drones. Those I didn't yet bother with. That's the only exception to any possible sub-battleship fits. _
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.10.10 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia "Perfection" doesn't exist
Well it does exist but to train all the relevant skills to V is utter madness, it will take over a year to train that even for a frigate.
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Cire XIII
Caldari Ever Flow Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2010.10.10 14:06:00 -
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I joined the game wanting to fly the nighthawk and vulture as a stat booster "class". 3 years later, I can't fly command ships and don't have them planned. With all the support skills it's pretty hard to get yourself stuck down a path when the way you look at the game changes.
I'd recommend that you train for the harby first and get some time having fun in the omen for pvp. Things should fall in place from there.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.10 14:08:00 -
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My answer; at times, yes, but overall nope not even close, there's always new and exciting goals if that X thing was boring.
/c
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PerrinAybarra
The Meat Grinder
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Posted - 2010.10.10 15:08:00 -
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let's see when i started top of the line ship was the merlin so disappointed maybe
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.10 16:50:00 -
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Quote: When you were young in this game and you decided on flying a certain type of ship and then spent forever and a day training it to perfect, were you disappointed with the results or were you very happy with it.
When I started EvE I decided to be a miner.
Obviously I'm as disseminated a suicide bomber.
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Rock Vegas
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Posted - 2010.10.10 17:04:00 -
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Yes. But. Resign yourself to training another race cruiser V. Probably keying off what is the best flavor T-3 atm. Cruiser V isn't THAT bad. BC V is tough. BS V is a BIG DECISION. Use you remaps wisely.
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NeoShocker
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.10.10 21:45:00 -
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Well, I didn't spec, but did went to t2 frigates for caldari. I was happy with it, for around a month 3 years ago. Last year, I respecced for willpower and perception, it was very rewarding when you train strictly for those two specs for a whole year (well, 11 months then :O ). :) ----------------------------------- Peace through power! |
Faith'Ann Justice
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Posted - 2010.10.10 21:49:00 -
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IMHO you should train up a ceratin race and a certain weapon system and stick to it. Learn to make it work for you and let it make you a better pilot if it's not the best fotm around.
I'm about three years into a caldari ship specialist. No, I don't fly a drake. I fly hyrbid ships. Rohk, Moa, Commorant, Raptor... I fly the ships everyone uses as examples of "the most terrible, never fly ever," ships in EVE and frankly after this many years I really dig them. Any time I think about cross training I just can't bring myself to do it. I'm now just worried about what i'll do with myself after I run out of caldari hybrid ships to train...
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Dek Kato
Amarr Paradox.
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Posted - 2010.10.10 21:53:00 -
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I think the bigger problem people run into is training for a certain ship and then sucking at it and refusing to learn. I knew a guy who trained for a Curse and sucked at flying it so he lost a half dozen. So he raged and switched to a Zealot, which he also couldn't fly so he lost a half dozen of them. He raged, claimed he was switching to the Vagabond (even though he refused to learn to manually pilot) and eventually stopped logging on. He was not missed.
Basically, make sure you learn how to properly fit and fly whatever you train for.
Originally by: CCP Shadow Thread locked due to troll convention.
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.10.10 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastiann Kane When you were young in this game and you decided on flying a certain type of ship and then spent forever and a day training it to perfect, were you disappointed with the results or were you very happy with it.
I say this because when you are young you have a hell of a lot of training ahead of you and you always have an ideal ship in mind and before you even start with the guns/spaceship much of your time is spent on those pesky backskills.
And if you are not happy you could have spent 5 months training a ship to perfection only to find that it was not the ship that you thought it would be and then have to look at something else.
Your valuable answers please.
P.S mine is the Pilgrim and a Harbinger and a Zealot. One for solo and two for small fleet
The metagame constantly changes. You train up for a ship, then someone discovers a new fit or tactic that obsoletes it, so you train something else. Used to be it was all about the sniper BS. Then the RR BS. Then the Sniper HACs. Then the bombers. Then the Drakes. Then the AHACs. And that's just big fleet combat. Going further back, it used to be "Gallante Online", but then speeds were reduced, and gate sizes were increased and now it's "lol gallante!". And so on and so forth.
If I had to guess, I'd say that Gallante, or at any rate Hybrids, were next in line for the buffbat, as projectiles and lasers are now both very satisfactory, and most missiles are OK (except cruise but eh).
Anyway I guess my point is, train for what takes your fancy, because a ship you like and fly a lot is inherently already buffed for you. And then once you train it, train up the next ship to do the things your first doesn't do well.
Eventually, you reach the heady heights of nerfproofdom. 4 cruiser 5, 4 BS 5, BC 5, HAC 5, Recon 5, AF 5, Covops 5, working on all T3 5... allows one to take a more detached view.
I advise against being a "pure" character. Diversity helps you tank boredom.
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Ran Khanon
Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.10.10 22:34:00 -
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I chose missioning to make my initial isk with and while most of my support and small ship skills were still very bad I rushed skilling up to Amarr BS and made my first billions with an Abaddon which was my initial dream boat. I really felt like the man flying that beast around and even though I couldn't use a T2 large repper yet, I soon had enough isk to buy a much better officer repper anyway :P
Even though I almost never fly a baddon or mission anymore, I still love Amarr BS's for pvp and for utility roles so I don't regret the path I took at all. I now have a fleet/buffer geddon, a pos bash geddon, an armoured transport geddon, a low sec mission baddon, a high sec mission Paladin, a suicide arty Apoc, a gatecamp/fast lock Apoc and a snipe Apoc.
Same with battle cruisers which I have been skilling up the support skills for lately; a salvage/loot harb, a pve/plex harb, and a pvp harb.
Now my aim is flying recons. Probably I'll end up skilling for frigate hulls next year or so :P
I really don't regret training up for big ships first as it opened a great (although boring) source of income relatively early in the game which I can now use much more casually to fund my pvp needs with.
p.s. BUT the ship class I didn't expect to be so damn useful and to open up a whole new game for me is without a doubt the covops which I trained for on my alt. I really wouldn't want to play EVE without one anymore. Recruiting! |
Hentes Zsemle
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Posted - 2010.10.10 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastiann Kane When you were young in this game and you decided on flying a certain type of ship and then spent forever and a day training it to perfect, were you disappointed with the results or were you very happy with it.
I say this because when you are young you have a hell of a lot of training ahead of you and you always have an ideal ship in mind and before you even start with the guns/spaceship much of your time is spent on those pesky backskills.
And if you are not happy you could have spent 5 months training a ship to perfection only to find that it was not the ship that you thought it would be and then have to look at something else.
Your valuable answers please.
P.S mine is the Pilgrim and a Harbinger and a Zealot. One for solo and two for small fleet
I wanted to fly a deimos.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.10 22:59:00 -
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Im a huge fan of the megathron,and am one of those guys that do specialize.I trained every skill that any mod on that ship can take advantage of..to lvl 5.I have one more drone skill and one more navigation skill to train before I can use that ship at max power.
Other than a few breaks in between to train up t3 or af..thats all Ive been doing.Was well worth it though.I too am waiting on a blaster or speed buff for gallente.
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Rellik B00n
Lethal Death Squad
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Posted - 2010.10.10 23:21:00 -
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I bypassed it by deciding to fly everything. Nearly there!
As a sidenote I kew a pirate that spent a long time training to be a perfect Eos pilot when it was a solopwnmobile. She/he ragequit when CCP swung the bat at it.
in conclusion i reckon better to be a lvl3/4 in many things than a 5 in only a few . -hi sec lolwarrior- |
Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2010.10.10 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastiann Kane When you were young in this game and you decided on flying a certain type of ship and then spent forever and a day training it to perfect, were you disappointed with the results or were you very happy with it.
I say this because when you are young you have a hell of a lot of training ahead of you and you always have an ideal ship in mind and before you even start with the guns/spaceship much of your time is spent on those pesky backskills.
And if you are not happy you could have spent 5 months training a ship to perfection only to find that it was not the ship that you thought it would be and then have to look at something else.
Your valuable answers please.
P.S mine is the Pilgrim and a Harbinger and a Zealot. One for solo and two for small fleet
Sir, I am Gallente. I feel this way about all my ships. Imagine the disappointment of having 3.4 million SP in gunnery only to get owned by someone with 1.8 million SP in missiles.
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CommanderShepard1
Gallente Kaleidascopic Military Association Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.10.10 23:52:00 -
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Well I made an alt about a few weeks ago, got bored of watching the corp wh all the time with only one character so i made another. I trained her up to fly a nightmare within ten days, though i got a long time until i can use all the fittings i have for it, currently ship spinning my nightmare lol.
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Ira Theos
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Posted - 2010.10.11 01:52:00 -
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Ships?? You mean you actually fly ships in this game? I wondered what that undock button was for...
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2010.10.11 03:35:00 -
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My first character just trained whatever skill came up with a check mark beside it.
After a couple of years he was pretty handy with a lot of different ships.
Alas, that was then and this is now. Now I run a minimum of four accts and train each character for a specific role. I kind of miss the old days where I didn't have a clue and just had fun doing whatever popped up.
Mr Epeen
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Valeronx
Celestial Horizon Corp. Fallen Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.22 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis I advise against being a "pure" character. Diversity helps you tank boredom.
I agree. It's ok to specialize, but once you've trained into a specific ship or role, branch out snd try something new.
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