I'm merely curious about the stupidity of people so I can exploit that!

Or is this all just about feeling good when you see all those green, blue and purple things in your mods icons?

Compare two Tengus, one being a staple T2 fit costing 500mil overall including ship

tl;dr OP fails to understand the opportunity cost of money but berates other people on doing their profit calculations wrong.

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Listen to this guy. His avatar has a real in-game tin-foil hat.

The way I see it:

Compare two Tengus, one being a staple T2 fit costing 500mil overall including ship, the other one pimped out costing 5bil including ship.

Now the T2 fit, with whatever you are doing, can produce a solid 80mil per hour.
The pimped fit, doing the same thing, can produce a solid 100mil per hour.

Wow... another extremely insightful comment, relevant to this posting.

And what is the point of making fun of an avatar? Look at yours. Your avatar looks like a Cambodian war victim who has been malnourished for several decades.

tl;dr OP fails to understand the opportunity cost of money but berates other people on doing their profit calculations wrong.

I pimp my special ratting ship because I can.

This. Some people wear earrings, some people get tattoos. Wtf do you care how I bling my digital spaceship?

Personally, I bling up knowing full well that it wont pay for itself any time soon, but doing missions that few minutes faster makes a whole bunch of difference when you're on limited timescales. Makes the difference between finishing a mission and not bothering to start it because you dont have time.

Ive been amazed at how much faster adding some expensive mods has made missions. Its not just 20% faster, it can double the speed. The reason is a few tough parts: That one ship you can barely break the tank of. A little extra DPS and it dies fast. That other ship you can barely track. Better tracking, and it dies fast.

That said, it does take a long time to make back the extra cost, especially if you go nuts (the OPs 5 billion case for example). I try to have balance: Add expense where it really helps, go cheap elsewhere.

Also, for many people having the best ship is the goal, just like having a good killboard record is a goal for other people.

You are quite content with your $50 dollar Columbia backpack. When you see someone with Hermes bag that costs $4,500, does that mean they are stupid? I don't think so.

...Using at last one main+one alt on mission is 100% more efficnienty...

You're correct, but why should you care?

As long as you don't mind the click-fest.

Wait Am I the only one who Blings ships for No reason?

What about time? An officer/faction fit ship will undoubtedly make more ISK faster than a simple T2 fit ship of the same kind. THAT is simple math.

The way I see it...If I make ISK 25% faster in a faction ship then it pays itself off when I have made the cost of my ship x3 minus the cost of a T2 ship.

Imagine a scenario where somebody overly pimps a ship with officer and/or high grade deadspace modules for better PvE performance. He pays X isk for the whole fitting. Now after he earns another X isk with that ship + fitting, he assumes the fitting paid for itself and is now showing the extra profit. Wait a second, you don't need to imagine that. You all probably know people yourself that do that way.


Why are people that dumb?


The way I see it:

Compare two Tengus, one being a staple T2 fit costing 500mil overall including ship, the other one pimped out costing 5bil including ship.

Now the T2 fit, with whatever you are doing, can produce a solid 80mil per hour.
The pimped fit, doing the same thing, can produce a solid 100mil per hour.

So the pimped fit will pay back for itself *when* that extra 20mil per hour covers the difference between the 500mil and the 5bil. Meaning the majority will believe that the pimped fit paid for itself whenever you have earned 5bil - BUT...

... in truth it will have paid for itself whenever you have earned 22.5bil with these figures. This becomes even more extreme when you have a simple T2 fit, with faction damage mods. Then all the faction painters and super expensive tanks don't really contribute that much anymore.


Now I do realize that making a ship expensive it can have its benefits:
* It can be an entry card for certain incursion fleets (ISN) - which naturally give a lot more profit. But incursions are arguably the smallest percentage of carebearing.
* It can allow to be able to do certain sites to begin with. Switch your ship for an Ishtar, or just fit the bare minimum tank for any site you do.

But the brutal truth is:
You will lose your ship sooner or later. Making it utterly expensive effectively removes CONCORD protection (yes they will still take revenge, but that won't matter if you lose 5bil, and the suicide gankers only lose a couple hundred mil in nados, while potentially looting several billion of your loot - and the more expensive your ship gets, the more likely this will be).

And if you live in 0.0/lowsec, you will be hunted regardless - well even more so if they know you are flying shiny.
* Eventually you will do a mistake
* Eventually you will be unlucky
* Eventually you will have a backstabber in your corp
* Eventually you will have a bug that GMs cannot verify through logs
* -> Eventually you will lose your ship.
Add the fact that people never sell their shiny mods back, they are effectively *spent*, instead of being an re-sellable investment - unless they want to upgrade, which just amplifies everything.


Do people just fail at basic math?

Or is this all just about feeling good when you see all those green, blue and purple things in your mods icons?

I'm merely curious about the stupidity of people so I can exploit that!

-1 no TLDR

I'm merely curious about the stupidity of people so I can exploit that!

Wait Am I the only one who Blings ships for No reason?

I think its hilarious he thinks u can buy and fit a t2 fitted tengu for 500mil

quite clearly never flown one

lol tbfh

tl;dr OP fails to understand the opportunity cost of money but berates other people on doing their profit calculations wrong.