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Archdaimon
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Posted - 2012.08.10 19:20:00 -
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Things we need:
Being able to check online/offline towers through dscan
Being able to check online players, unless cloaked, through dcan, also in poses
Being unable to play docking games
If that is sorted in the new pos system, I'd welcome it greatly.
Other things to consider:
If a Pos can be placed anywhere but moons, wh defenses can be extreme
If a pos can be placed anywhere but moons, poses will be placed far far out in system (The old fighter lost connection tricky thingy)
If Poses can be placed so far away from moons through that trick, they can no longer be traced through d-scan. Very big issue.
Hope you get it sorted
Cheers
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Archdaimon
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Posted - 2012.08.10 23:20:00 -
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Indo Nira wrote:Archdaimon wrote:Things we need:
Being able to check online/offline towers through dscan
come one, why are you so lazy?!?! you can already do that, with adding forcefields to the overview.... i'll give you a guide, on one of your overview tabs (the scouting one) add forcefields from filters, then, when you're dscanning for poses ( you know how to do that, right) lower the angle so that you can only see the towers from a single planet (let's say you're doing this from the sun). if the planet has a pos on one of it's moons with no forcefields, it's offline, if it doesn't, it's not. boom, fixed. P.S. if a planet has more then one pos, warp to the planet at 100 or whatever pleases you, turn on moon brackets (shift+alt+x i think) and do the same, but looking at the moons. P.P.S. stop asking for handouts, do your work as a scout.
Someone really did not read the thread now did he?
At least we agree :D
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Archdaimon
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Posted - 2012.08.13 08:38:00 -
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Quesiton for Two Step:
Has it been discussed that if starbases can be put away from moons that they will be placed far far far out in systems?
(Wether through reconnected fighters or inties flying for months.) |
Archdaimon
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Posted - 2012.08.13 22:54:00 -
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Nice answering all those things Two Steps.
Still to me it seem the primary concern is:
1) Timers
2) extreme locations of poses
3) Activity tracking on poses |
Archdaimon
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Posted - 2012.08.14 13:10:00 -
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We've done full invasions several times in c6 and c5's.
It takes a lot of work and even for smaller entities a full weeks work.
We don't need to make it harder to invade wormholes. Quite the opposite.
In honesty though, it will be virtually impossible to kick out any one from smaller class wormholes if timers are set to weeks. It would require a tremendous tedious effort of pos bashing against an already defeated foe if we were to store our chars there for decades. |
Archdaimon
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Posted - 2012.08.14 13:55:00 -
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Meytal wrote:I would say that it's MORE dangerous to live in a C2/HS/?
That is the same thing as saying it is safer to mine in Zero sec than in Hisec!
You comment is laughable. Do you have any idea what it requires to live in a c6? from an organizational point of view?
1) There are so few c6 that if any one wants to find you, they will find you. You see? With a static c6, you can cycle hole for every 5 min. which mean that you should find the right hole once every day. Means that within a week you should be able to get a cap fleet into the system. You cannot hide, you have to fight.
2) No one lives in a c6 without a large cap fleet of there own. Yes we loose less ships in homesys to random ganks, but if we loose home sys the loss can hardly be counted in billions.
3) The only reason we do not loose ships to random ganks (which we btw still do, cause in order to logistics done, we have to go through lower class because of logistics), is the effort put into hi class wh.
4) We solo as much as the next isk hore in lower class wh, when there is nothing else to do.
Honestly. We live as much in c2's as you do. My bet is you never lived in a c6.
What we cannot do is to expect to find a certain low class wh within a week with our major logistics through hi, low and zero.
I wonder how many invasions you've done?
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Archdaimon
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Posted - 2012.08.14 22:45:00 -
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But now that the FF thing is not up to you, what can we do and what is being done about convincing ccp to consider the needs of wh.
Truth is most people here are afraid they only think off null when continueing with their pos design. |
Archdaimon
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Posted - 2012.08.15 13:50:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:
Wow, your corp really hands out passwords and requires you to use that each time you log? that must suck balls. Is this the norm?
When members have private pos not everyone else can enter that pos without pw. It's currently the only way to protect members from other members.
It is also a way to avoid complete paranoia and give a new chance for new members to join our alliance without them stealing all the ****. |
Archdaimon
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Posted - 2012.08.15 13:53:00 -
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Meytal wrote:
AHARM should be thankful that they have such a good reputation, especially right now since they're weak in active numbers, though I don't know why they keep a certain few people around. Corps have been evicted for less than this kind of garbage.
Says an alt? |
Archdaimon
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Posted - 2012.08.15 14:21:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Archdaimon wrote:Rek Seven wrote:
Wow, your corp really hands out passwords and requires you to use that each time you log? that must suck balls. Is this the norm?
When members have private pos not everyone else can enter that pos without pw. It's currently the only way to protect members from other members. It is also a way to avoid complete paranoia and give a new chance for new members to join our alliance without them stealing all the ****. Ah well, i guess it makes sence if everyone has their own pos. We just require all our members to provide their home address incase they need to get beaten up in the future.  But the pos security thing is CCP's main reason for redesigning to pos's, so this will not be an issue soon.
Basically those living together within these small townships know each other irl as well. We just have that many member ^^. |
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Archdaimon
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Posted - 2012.08.15 14:32:00 -
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But Bane would a situation where small pos were reinforced in weeks not actually result in the opposite of what you are saying?
From what I read of the minutes this was what ccp was thinking.
I don't think forcing people in smaller than current large poses is a good idea. But we do not want people to be able to stay reinforced for weeks.
Would it be possible to get a dev response to this discussion? At least that it has been read and is being considered? |
Archdaimon
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Posted - 2012.08.15 16:58:00 -
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Godfrey Silvarna wrote:Since the amount of rage and butthurt in this thread is nearing absolutely childish levels and it seems all that can be said has been said, I suggest we send Two Step back to CCP with any feedback he thinks can be gathered from here and wait for whatever information is released next.
My opinion has not changed: I Still hate the current POS mechanics more than I hate the uncertainty of changing mechanics.
If you did not wear a monocle I might almost have regarded you as reasonable 
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Archdaimon
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Posted - 2012.08.17 15:40:00 -
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You already wrote the pr version. Now they just need to post: Read!
Then understood
Then full compliance |
Archdaimon
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Posted - 2012.08.28 13:10:00 -
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I believe too many people assume living in all c2's or c1's is the same.
What matters for security is how easy it is to continuously roll into the same hole or any such similar access.
That means that c4's will be the hardest to invade which the stats also show.
Likewise a c1-3 with only w-space statics (though I guess it is rare).
But honestly the discussion is a bit to much high class wh's against low class wh's.
We need to figure out what mechanics can suit the needs of both w-dwellers and 0-dwellers (as well as carebears'n'stuff).
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