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Galthirion
Caldari Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.10.17 18:25:00 -
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Ive known alekz for a long time and he is a stand up guy. Ive seen provi change hands lots but one thing is for sure. CVA will take there home back. What people fail to see is alliances are only as strong as there weakest POS... this being the case the situation in provi has left to many strong willed groups of people able and willing to inflict damage on those currently there...all the "failcascade" this and that posts are cover ups...people realize now that there interests are at risk. its funny seeing peoples reactions when they see there money going down the drain. GL HF Noir, CVA. Origin. |

Galthirion
Caldari Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.10.18 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Sonreir Wow, Alek... All in one post you manage to: a.) Completely ignore all the facts and history of the situation b.) Be a massive hypocrite c.) Refuse to accept responsibility for any of the actions you or your alliance has taken
I like doing the TL;DR version first, so now let me expand...
a.) D'K is in the trouble they're in because they ran their mouths off and intentionally drug the rest of Provi into a war where there was little chance of success. Now if PL had come in looking to take all of Provi, the situation would have played out differently. We all would have fought shoulder-to-shoulder and died together, but they weren't here to invade Providence. They were only here to give a misbehaving child a well-needed spanking. D'K provoked that one and expected the other alliances to pay the butcher's bill. No thank you.
Unfortunately, one ass-whopping wasn't enough to get through to them that they need to tone it down and a decision was made to remove them from Providence. That decision was made not, as many would have you believe, for purposes of conquest, but because it was best for the long-term stability and security of the region. If someone is rocking the boat, you sit them back down (with force, if necessary). We can't be in a NIP with another alliance who insists on poking hornet's nests and then expects their friends to pick up the tab.
Now as to the facts of your situation: Not even one week ago there was a Provi TS meeting where we were all present to discuss the situation. I'm pretty sure you were there (someone from NOIR was), although you arrived 30 minutes late. And based upon your actions after that meeting you were probably AFK for most of it; smoking a joint. If you think back over your THC-clouded memories you may recall us bringing Derwent into the meeting to discuss The Kadeshi coming into Provi. We offered them ZQ2-CF constellation and told them if they continue going after your space then all of Provi would be there to fight them. But I'm sure that we got two dozen of all the alliance's leaders into the same TS channel just to convince you were WEREN'T plotting against you. That makes much more sense, right?
b.) So now you call us back-stabbers for failing to honor the NIP. I admit, there is room to discuss the way things were handled with D'K and I'm sure there could have been improvement on both sides of the fence. But in your mind two wrongs make a right? You really think calling us out for not sticking to the letter of the NIP and then flipping your space to CVA makes you the good guys? It makes you vindictive and childish. Multiple opportunities have existed to salvage this situation and you've repeatedly ignored them. And the icing on the cake? You guys didn't help D'K against PL, either.
c.) And now you attempt to lay all this trouble at other people's doorsteps. The fact of the matter is that real leaders take responsibility for the situations in which they find themselves. You can't join into a NIP and then not uphold your side of the bargain. You guys rarely participated in any of the Provi-wide meetings, and rarely joined up in any fleets against CVA or other intruders. Absentee landlords would be the polite way of saying you were never here and never active in the region. So now after our pilots have fought and died to help hold your space while you messed about in Jita you have the nerve to come in here and tell us you've been mistreated? Good riddance.
I love when people cry and try to make just of there actions...you will lose your space little 0.0 monkey all in due time im sure... Origin. |

Galthirion
Caldari Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.10.19 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sonreir
Originally by: Galthirion I love when people cry and try to make just of there actions...you will lose your space little 0.0 monkey all in due time im sure...
And I love everyone here on CAOD. You guys are the best. :D
You mad? Origin. |

Galthirion
Caldari Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.10.19 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Avernus
Originally by: Galthirion
Originally by: Sonreir
Originally by: Galthirion I love when people cry and try to make just of there actions...you will lose your space little 0.0 monkey all in due time im sure...
And I love everyone here on CAOD. You guys are the best. :D
You mad?
Just checking, but are you qualified to use that cliche?
just checking but shouldn't you be packing up your ships and gear? Origin. |

Galthirion
Caldari Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.10.19 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sonreir Edited by: Sonreir on 19/10/2010 15:47:58
Originally by: Galthirion You mad?
Nah, but I am going to have to stop reading this thread or I'm gonna get fired for laughing too loud and disturbing my co-workers.
The fact that some guy from a 100-man empire alliance can come on CAOD and predict the downfall of our 900-man 0.0 alliance because we're winning the war is epic on so many levels.
1 I have probably been playing this game longer then 75% of your alliance.
2 check our KB were far from an empire alliance.
3 dont lie about you working, you more then likely live in your moms basement. and eat cheetos and and twinkies all day long.
4 you still mad bro?
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Galthirion
Caldari Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.10.19 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Sonreir
Originally by: Galthirion 1 I have probably been playing this game longer then 75% of your alliance.
2 check our KB were far from an empire alliance.
3 dont lie about you working, you more then likely live in your moms basement. and eat cheetos and and twinkies all day long.
4 you still mad bro?
no need to get defensive. I was only kidding. I'm sure you guys are really hardcore.
Not getting defensive at all bud.just want to kill any and all thoughts that had anything to do with empire that extra stuff was just iceing on the cake ;P Origin. |

Galthirion
Caldari Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.10.21 14:33:00 -
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Numbers dont lie and for some of the groups here Noir has put up better numbers then most alliances bashing them here i find it funny that this thread has reached 5 pages. Origin. |
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