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Tobin Shalim Eclipse Industrials Quantum Forge	Posted - 2010.10.16 23:55:00 - [1] Ok, while I read the blogs and can appreciate the need and fixes for the right click interface that is prevalent in EVE, I cannot fathom the idea that you have removed ALL of the right-click interfaces. No right click in stations, no right click on space....are you putting all the functions into shortcuts? I cannot tell you how much of a cluster** idea this is. You are expecting us to memorize shortcuts for all the functions in EVE? You're introducing a totally new method of interfacing with the UI in ways that nobody in this game is used to and you're giving it to us in this all-or-nothing shot. This is not the way it needs to be done. You MUST have the shortcuts as an option, and not as the sole method that is suddenly thrust upon the whole playerbase in one shot. ----- Originally by:** Gierling Tech III is going to be "Fully modular" until someone crams the "EW Bonus" modules together with the "8 Midslots" modules...
Miriam Letisse	Posted - 2010.10.17 00:05:00 - [2] Edited by: Miriam Letisse on 17/10/2010 00:07:37 I think you must have misread something, there are no plans to remove the right click interface; they have however been reorganising the right click menus for uniformity and usability.
ZdPanthr	Posted - 2010.10.17 00:13:00 - [3] there is also a glitch or bug going around where occasionally when you log in you cant right click anything or sometimes you can right click certain things but not all. If this is the case you should just reset your cache. That seems to be the thing that fixes the problem.

CCP Chronotis	Posted - 2010.10.17 00:14:00 - [4] Here's a thought, just maybe its a bug (test servers tend to have bugs!) and if you happen to have logserver open on test server, you might note errors where it would be super useful to us to receive these through a bug report. However it is probably more efficient to emorage and make presumptions here instead!

Tobin Shalim Eclipse Industrials Quantum Forge	Posted - 2010.10.17 01:03:00 - [5] Originally by: CCP Chronotis Here's a thought, just maybe its a bug (test servers tend to have bugs!) and if you happen to have logserver open on test server, you might note errors where it would be super useful to us to receive these through a bug report. However it is probably more efficient to emorage and make presumptions here instead! /sarcasm off No, you are right on that. I'll hit up Sisi with logserver going and see what, if any, results I get. I honestly assumed from reading the dev blog that shortcuts were going to replace the right-click interface. Will post here my results. ----- Originally by: Gierling Tech III is going to be "Fully modular" until someone crams the "EW Bonus" modules together with the "8 Midslots" modules...
De'Veldrin Minmatar CareBears on Fire The Obsidian Legion	Posted - 2010.10.17 01:37:00 - [6] Originally by: CCP Chronotis Here's a thought, just maybe its a bug (test servers tend to have bugs!) and if you happen to have logserver open on test server, you might note errors where it would be super useful to us to receive these through a bug report. However it is probably more efficient to emorage and make presumptions here instead! Sorry, I know it shouldn't be funny, but this made me snort Mt Dew out of my nose from laughing so hard. --Vel
Snowmann	Posted - 2010.10.17 06:05:00 - [7] Heh, I think someone has just taken the Silver this year for distance in the "jumping to conclusions" competition. Note: I would have said gold, but I have faith that someone will eventually top this.

CCP karkur	Posted - 2010.10.17 10:13:00 - [8] Yes, don't worry, we are not removing the right click menus This is just a bug, and it does not happen all the time and it's usually enough to log in again and then it's fine. We already have a defect on it, along with several bug reports.

Tarin Majagh Caldari Eclipse Industrials Quantum Forge	Posted - 2010.10.17 12:20:00 - [9] I was about to start mocking, and then I realised it was one of my corp mates... facepalm.jpg >_> -- Quantum Forge
H3llHound Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.17 16:29:00 - [10] Haha, I had this bug today. Funny bug it is, with every rightclick I made the options in the rightclick menu decreased by one until it was gone for good^^ ~~Recruiting~~ │3rd Party Service
Gecko O'Bac H A V O C Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2010.10.18 01:23:00 - [11] Originally by: CCP Chronotis Here's a thought, just maybe its a bug (test servers tend to have bugs!) and if you happen to have logserver open on test server, you might note errors where it would be super useful to us to receive these through a bug report. However it is probably more efficient to emorage and make presumptions here instead! Can I make a puppet of you with your voice citing posts such as this so I can just pull a string and have it verbally fight off stupidity? PRETTY PLEASE! puppy eyes (No offense intended to the OP who was not only able to accept the advise but also recognized the post itself was perhaps a little hasted)
Tobin Shalim Eclipse Industrials Quantum Forge	Posted - 2010.10.18 05:19:00 - [12] Edited by: Tobin Shalim on 18/10/2010 05:21:03 Ok, good news and bad. Bad: I ran into the same error again, after 3 separate Sisi logins. However, my first login ran flawlessly. Good: I have logserver files from my last login where I tried right clicking in multiple spaces. Am filing bugreport. ----- Originally by: Gierling Tech III is going to be "Fully modular" until someone crams the "EW Bonus" modules together with the "8 Midslots" modules...
Beann Loant Caldari Independent Navy Reserve OWN Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.18 11:11:00 - [13] Edited by: Beann Loant on 18/10/2010 11:13:21 <rant> Actually, it would be a huge improvement to have a UI that suddenly does not require you to right-click to perform EVERY GODDAMN SINGLE ACTION in EVE. CCP, when you're done rewriting the UI backend, please supply the UI designers with old, single-button Mac mice so they can lrn2interface. Also, employ a rule that right-click actions can only be added during unpaid overtime or something. The left button is there for a reason! </rant>
khac	Posted - 2010.10.18 12:18:00 - [14] Originally by: Beann Loant Edited by: Beann Loant on 18/10/2010 11:13:21 The left button is there for a reason! Yes, how else would we choose an option in the right click menu?
666Devious Sinister Elite Supremacy.	Posted - 2010.10.18 12:49:00 - [15] Originally by: CCP Chronotis Here's a thought, just maybe its a bug (test servers tend to have bugs!) and if you happen to have logserver open on test server, you might note errors where it would be super useful to us to receive these through a bug report. However it is probably more efficient to emorage and make presumptions here instead! Here's a thought, maybe he had to mention it because you have been know for doing idiot things time and time again. It's not like CCP tests these thing on the test server before hand gasps how about the jump bug. What you couldn't duplicate? or did your logs show nothing? It only happened at almost every gate you jumped. Instead of typing a cute reply how about you go and fix it. I appreciate professional attitude.
Kellanari	Posted - 2010.10.18 17:33:00 - [16] Originally by: Beann Loant Edited by: Beann Loant on 18/10/2010 11:13:21 <rant> [...]please supply the UI designers with old, single-button Mac mice so they can lrn2interface. </rant> Actually the single button mac mouse still has a right click, you hold ctrl and click to bring up context menu.
Cresalle	Posted - 2010.10.19 00:46:00 - [17] lolwut, Chronotis sprachen sie local?
Mistress Mirrabell	Posted - 2010.10.19 01:05:00 - [18] Originally by: CCP Chronotis Here's a thought, just maybe its a bug (test servers tend to have bugs!) and if you happen to have logserver open on test server, you might note errors where it would be super useful to us to receive these through a bug report. However it is probably more efficient to emorage and make presumptions here instead! Problem is it's getting harder and harder to tell what is a "Bug" from a "Feature" now days, so yes sometimes emoraging is easier.
b4sher	Posted - 2010.10.19 18:44:00 - [19] Originally by: 666Devious Originally by: CCP Chronotis Here's a thought, just maybe its a bug (test servers tend to have bugs!) and if you happen to have logserver open on test server, you might note errors where it would be super useful to us to receive these through a bug report. However it is probably more efficient to emorage and make presumptions here instead! Here's a thought, maybe he had to mention it because you have been know for doing idiot things time and time again. It's not like CCP tests these thing on the test server before hand gasps how about the jump bug. What you couldn't duplicate? or did your logs show nothing? It only happened at almost every gate you jumped. Instead of typing a cute reply how about you go and fix it. I appreciate professional attitude. ^^ this. How about CCP doesn't get an attitude with their paying customers?
Erdiere Minmatar Erasers inc. Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2010.10.19 19:03:00 - [20] Originally by: 666Devious Originally by: CCP Chronotis Here's a thought, just maybe its a bug (test servers tend to have bugs!) and if you happen to have logserver open on test server, you might note errors where it would be super useful to us to receive these through a bug report. However it is probably more efficient to emorage and make presumptions here instead! Here's a thought, maybe he had to mention it because you have been know for doing idiot things time and time again. It's not like CCP tests these thing on the test server before hand gasps how about the jump bug. What you couldn't duplicate? or did your logs show nothing? It only happened at almost every gate you jumped. Instead of typing a cute reply how about you go and fix it. I appreciate professional attitude. Here's a thought, if you really think they would have removed left-click menus all of the sudden, the only idiot is you.
Cresalle	Posted - 2010.10.19 19:16:00 - [21] Originally by: b4sher How about CCP doesn't get an attitude with their paying customers? Emo-kids like getting smacked down. They write poetry about it.
Rhohan Minmatar Marauders	Posted - 2010.10.19 21:09:00 - [22] Originally by: b4sher How about CCP doesn't get an attitude with their paying customers? You can't be serious. That's one of the few good things about these forums. Grow some thicker skin, you will be happier in life.
ThekeeperOfTheCrypt Caldari Ignorant Of Science	Posted - 2010.10.19 21:20:00 - [23] 'histarical laughing' is an inappropriate name for what im doing right now
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.10.19 23:24:00 - [24] Originally by: Beann Loant CCP, when you're done rewriting the UI backend, please supply the UI designers with old, single-button Mac mice so they can lrn2interface. That will be a bit problematic. I think they stopped making those somewhere around the time USB was inventedà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
666Devious Sinister Elite Supremacy.	Posted - 2010.10.19 23:47:00 - [25] Originally by: Erdiere Edited by: Erdiere on 19/10/2010 19:23:38 Originally by: 666Devious Originally by: CCP Chronotis Here's a thought, just maybe its a bug (test servers tend to have bugs!) and if you happen to have logserver open on test server, you might note errors where it would be super useful to us to receive these through a bug report. However it is probably more efficient to emorage and make presumptions here instead! Here's a thought, maybe he had to mention it because you have been know for doing idiot things time and time again. It's not like CCP tests these thing on the test server before hand gasps how about the jump bug. What you couldn't duplicate? or did your logs show nothing? It only happened at almost every gate you jumped. Instead of typing a cute reply how about you go and fix it. I appreciate professional attitude. Here's a thought, if you really think they would have removed right-click menus all of the sudden, the only idiot is you. Has nothing to do with the right click menus but CCPs response But since you know so much how about you let us know what is up with the cynabal on the test server and the sansha ship skins http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1398647
Kassa Daito Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.20 07:45:00 - [26] Edited by: Kassa Daito on 20/10/2010 07:48:05 Originally by: 666Devious Has nothing to do with the right click menus but CCPs response Being a paying customer does not give you an immunity from reasonable responses when you verbally abuse employees. The OP was beta testing and found something unusual and instead of submitting a bug report like a rational beta-tester, he comes onto the forums and demands to know why completely ridiculous change A was made. Sarcasm is a reasonable response to an incompetent tester who insults employees and can't avoid cursing. Had this shown up on the live server and been found by a customer playing there then the OP's response would have been a bit more expected but beta-testing volunteers should have an idea what they're getting into (aka, if it looks like it might be a bug then report it as a bug). I guess you are the kind of person that complains about your $1 box of chicken nuggets being stuck together and gets upset when employees point out that your expectations aren't reasonable for a $1 food item? PS: Once this was pointed out to the OP, he realized his response was inappropriate. ** Disclaimer: Author sometimes spell checks but is not responsible for sins of commission, omission, emission, transmission, or submission. Flowers, bricks, or any other form of feedback appreciated
Gecko O'Bac H A V O C Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2010.10.20 12:20:00 - [27] Originally by: Kassa Daito Edited by: Kassa Daito on 20/10/2010 07:48:05 Originally by: 666Devious Has nothing to do with the right click menus but CCPs response Being a paying customer does not give you an immunity from reasonable responses when you verbally abuse employees. The OP was beta testing and found something unusual and instead of submitting a bug report like a rational beta-tester, he comes onto the forums and demands to know why completely ridiculous change A was made. Sarcasm is a reasonable response to an incompetent tester who insults employees and can't avoid cursing. Had this shown up on the live server and been found by a customer playing there then the OP's response would have been a bit more expected but beta-testing volunteers should have an idea what they're getting into (aka, if it looks like it might be a bug then report it as a bug). I guess you are the kind of person that complains about your $1 box of chicken nuggets being stuck together and gets upset when employees point out that your expectations aren't reasonable for a $1 food item? PS: Once this was pointed out to the OP, he realized his response was inappropriate. Agreed with Kassa. That's why I want a Chronotis Action Figure :P It'd be just much easier to point toward certain people and pull the string than bother trying to put sense in somebody.
HeliosGal Caldari	Posted - 2010.10.20 13:13:00 - [28] ccp also the small things that o**** are important

CCP karkur	Posted - 2010.10.20 23:31:00 - [29] Originally by: 666Devious It's not like CCP tests these thing on the test server before hand gasps how about the jump bug. What you couldn't duplicate? or did your logs show nothing? It only happened at almost every gate you jumped. You hope are not still seeing the duplicate entries when you jump... are you? I think we fixed that in patch #3 but we know undocking has been a problem. I promise you that we have been trying and trying to repro that "fun" little bug and the logs just don't show anything Today was a really big day for me, I was finally able to repro it!(with a little bit of haxoring) We'll be testing the fix tomorrow in the mass test so if you have problems with double overview entries it would be great if you could join us and see if it did the trick.

Preemptive Strike	Posted - 2010.10.22 07:51:00 - [30] Originally by: CCP karkur Originally by: 666Devious It's not like CCP tests these thing on the test server before hand gasps how about the jump bug. What you couldn't duplicate? or did your logs show nothing? It only happened at almost every gate you jumped. You hope are not still seeing the duplicate entries when you jump... are you? I think we fixed that in patch #3 but we know undocking has been a problem. I promise you that we have been trying and trying to repro that "fun" little bug and the logs just don't show anything Today was a really big day for me, I was finally able to repro it!(with a little bit of haxoring) We'll be testing the fix tomorrow in the mass test so if you have problems with double overview entries it would be great if you could join us and see if it did the trick. I've actually tried on several occasions to make an alternate character for testing purposes, but have run into several issues: 1.) There is no incentive other than good will for me to spend time with a character that is going to be wiped without warning. 2.) There is a 'monetary bonus' but no SP bonus unless I log on at a magical time of CCP's bidding. So I am filthy rich with nothing to do that I haven't already done with my live character. 3.) These issues culminate into the overall problem: What is the point of me helping you test when there is no real incentive for me to do so and the reward is a character wipe at random? It is not classy to ***** without mentioning possible solutions. I suggest applying an automatic percentage SP bonus to each copied character's pool after every database dump to the test server. Example: PlayerA with 1 million SP gets a %500 bonus when his character is wiped and recreated. PlayerX who has been around for 6 years may need a reduced or adjusted percentage so that you don't lose the customer when he realizes his 2 years of training towards X actually sucks. So perhaps a reduced curve to only %100 SP bonus or something. Simple math and you all have the numbers; we do not. As a 2 month new player I am not looking forward to PI in November. I haven't been able to test for you since I haven't finished training. And I've heard that the catalyst graphics bug has been out for a very long time now. Perhaps CCP should reevaluate your testing methodology and the value of 'all of those little things'.

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