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Perssephone
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Posted - 2005.01.05 17:53:00 -
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This was a mail sent to me by a MASS member. I and my corp are not affiliated with CA in any way.
2005.01.05 17:44:00 Well its your call. I will have a nice day and even nicer day when I see ur corpse in my hangar. Just had a little chat with my friends, u will be set to negative standings not only by SE corps, u will be set to negative standing by corps in alliances friendly to us. Every one agree that persons that exploit the market like this should be "pushed" out of the game. We like our ploits to be able to buy from the market with out worrying about nubs like you spoling it. As you probably know your self, pilots can do simple mistakes like this when fiting their ships for battle, specially when they need to do it in a hurry. As you are a CA alt you should probably know that the CA leaders have been contacting us asking for mercy. This is not helping at all. RIP
i find this hard to believe can CA confirm this?
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.01.05 17:58:00 -
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*gets the fire extinguisher* ----- Eris Discordia; I think the proper term is <3
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Sticky Vicky
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Posted - 2005.01.05 18:00:00 -
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1, Negative standings... We get shot at in alliance space anyways dont see what difference this makes.
2, Selling a heavy drone for 57mil is not a market exploit, its a "intelligence exploit"
3, We are nubs? Erm sorry but we didnt just pay 57mil for a drone 
4, CA alt? This is my main, my current alt (former CA main) was ditched 6 months ago and if CA are really begging for mercy looks like it was a good call 
5, I've left some cheese on escrow for you, goes well with whine, just make sure you "inspect first"  |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.01.05 18:03:00 -
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Ohnoes Ca was like the omgnoweee mercy 4 us pwease. Then evol was all like omgwaaaaweee se r biatch 4 us and mercy is not 4 u. Upun whitch all gms whure like weeeeweogtzthefreequafe and they did all the m0o banning.
What was your point again?  ---------------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

Stained
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Posted - 2005.01.05 18:07:00 -
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m0o !!!! ___________________________________________________________________
Hair is Over-rated.
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.01.05 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: JoCool on 05/01/2005 18:37:53
No mercy for teh pirate alliance!
Btw, alt-alarm & IBJC & IBTL
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2005.01.05 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: JoCool Edited by: JoCool on 05/01/2005 18:37:53
No mercy for teh pirate alliance!
Btw, alt-alarm & IBJC & IBTL
You know that warrants a SPAM warning now? Dont do it again, please.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |

Perssephone
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Posted - 2005.01.05 18:43:00 -
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why should it be locked? was just asking a reasonable question. If its not true why is Hamrammur of MASS perpetuating such lies.... 
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.01.05 18:50:00 -
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So Eris, must I not say things like IBTL anymore? I welcome this change but I'm a bit grunted that there was no clearification. My post did have a meaning btw.
To show what I was trying to express with my former post I say it in the long form:
I don't give a **** about the things those alt said and it's certainly faked anyway. I also made my point clear that I am against mercy for the Curse Alliance (of Pirates hehe).
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Perssephone
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Posted - 2005.01.05 18:58:00 -
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u want a screenshot of my mail u got it, just have to ask 
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Val Amon
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Posted - 2005.01.05 18:58:00 -
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I always ask mercy whats the big deal, please all SE refrain from follwoing me to planets as I am always carrying mega and zyd in my brand new one and only taranis that I just learned how to fly, but my PC is so laggy it takes forever to load screens and see stuff so I suck.
PS what the best projectile to put on a taranis _ _ How many pilots does it take to wire a Flux Capacitor? 3, 1 to wire it and 2 to talk about how the old one was better. |

JoCool
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Posted - 2005.01.05 19:02:00 -
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Tech 2 blaster cannons or T2 Railguns. Both Hybrid weapons, you'll want to take a look at the "Ships & Modules" forums.
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Val Amon
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Posted - 2005.01.05 19:08:00 -
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I dun only gots skills fo projectile, I only have 1.1 mil skill points. derp de derp _ _ How many pilots does it take to wire a Flux Capacitor? 3, 1 to wire it and 2 to talk about how the old one was better. |

Svabbi k
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Posted - 2005.01.05 19:47:00 -
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Asni
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Stan hyd
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Posted - 2005.01.05 19:54:00 -
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funniest thread ever
gave me first laugh from these boards in ages STIZUM
FACTA NON VERBA |

Psychopat
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Posted - 2005.01.05 20:11:00 -
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Congratulations Perssephone!
You have just posted the most ignorant, moronic, retarded post on any forum EVER!
I will soon donate ISK to you since you won the 1st prize.
-=water? Never touch the stuff,fish fock in it=- |

Kayosoni
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Posted - 2005.01.05 20:14:00 -
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Please SA, have pity on us, I need better loot :/
http://www.siegedom.com/Files/Eve/Kills/Rampage/ -----------------------------------
Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server |

Perssephone
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Posted - 2005.01.05 20:20:00 -
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"Congratulations Perssephone!
You have just posted the most ignorant, moronic, retarded post on any forum EVER!
I will soon donate ISK to you since you won the 1st prize."
that post should have a ironic tag 
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.01.05 20:38:00 -
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can you prove that mail is real? --------------------------
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CKOZUK
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Posted - 2005.01.05 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: benwallace can you prove that mail is real?
Its not about proving if the eve mail is real its more can the sender of it prove the bull he is saying is true! The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
 
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Majin Buu
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Posted - 2005.01.05 23:16:00 -
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Edited by: Majin Buu on 05/01/2005 23:17:20
Originally by: Eris Discordia
Originally by: JoCool Edited by: JoCool on 05/01/2005 18:37:53
No mercy for teh pirate alliance!
Btw, alt-alarm & IBJC & IBTL
You know that warrants a SPAM warning now? Dont do it again, please.
Originally by: Wrangler it is ok to post "IBTL" if it is combined with other content. But simply posting "IBTL" will be considered spam
I do believe jocool posted "IBTL" with "other" content 
BoB KillBoard |

Hamfrid
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Posted - 2005.01.05 23:23:00 -
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OK here is the whole story.
Hamrammur a MASS member is fitting a ship for battle in Agil. He was in a hurry to join a gang heading towards Curse. He buys a drone and does not realize that the drone was sold for 57.000.000,00 not 57.000,00 isk the second he accepts the sale. I admit that mistakes like that are rather nubish. But who does not do mistakes, we are all humans. Talking about mistakes, if Sticky Vicky entered the sale order for 57 mil by mistakes and did not realize it until Hamrammur contacted him, I will put the SE standings towards 7th Viermacht Brigade back to neutral as soon as he pays 56 mil isk back to Hamrammur. Getting 1 mil for a drone is still pretty good. How ever if Sticky Vicky did put that sale order on the market knowing it was for 57 mil, I suggest other alliances set 7th Viermacht Brigade to negative standings as it's clear that they do things like this for living no matter if he pays back the 56 mil or not. Is this a market exploit or not? Well some of you might agree with me and some not, As there is an option to do this on the market it must not be called an exploit some might say. Well if we look at the grid exploit, pilots had the option to use grid for their good while camping, they also had the option no to. So we can probably argue about if this is an exploit or not. From my point of view this is an dishonorable act and an exploit.
Well back to the mails. Perssephone is the CEO of the corp. Sticky Vicky is in and therefore I sent him a mail asking him to pay the money back or I would set SE's standings towards his corp. to -10.00. I got this replay:
2005.01.05 1: Teach your corp. members basic numeracy
2: Actually Xetic is the largest Alliance
3: As im a CA alt i couldnbt give a **** if u declare on meh or not
4: Have a nice day
Notice answer nr. 3. Here Perssephone claims he's a CA alt. As most of you know SE has been at war with CA for long time. Last night a CA member asked one of my friends and fellow member not to POD kill him because he had full set of implants, after his ship got destroyed and his pod was webbed and scrambled. So what do you call that other than begging for mercy? But the bottom line in the mail is not that CA is begging for mercy. The bottom line is that players like Sticky Vicky and Perssephone should be hunted down for their foolish acts. SE standings towards them have already been set to -10.00.
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2005.01.05 23:33:00 -
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stop whineing and send more indys after me
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Kibachaan
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Posted - 2005.01.06 03:47:00 -
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Quote: Its not about proving if the eve mail is real its more can the sender of it prove the bull he is saying is true!
SE answers to Curse even less than XF does. Oh wait, that's not at all. Good luck with your dreams...
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Sticky Vicky
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Posted - 2005.01.06 05:14:00 -
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Originally by: Hamfrid OK here is the whole story.
Hamrammur a MASS member is fitting a ship for battle in Agil. He was in a hurry to join a gang heading towards Curse. He buys a drone and does not realize that the drone was sold for 57.000.000,00 not 57.000,00 isk the second he accepts the sale. I admit that mistakes like that are rather nubish. But who does not do mistakes, we are all humans. Talking about mistakes, if Sticky Vicky entered the sale order for 57 mil by mistakes and did not realize it until Hamrammur contacted him, I will put the SE standings towards 7th Viermacht Brigade back to neutral as soon as he pays 56 mil isk back to Hamrammur. Getting 1 mil for a drone is still pretty good. How ever if Sticky Vicky did put that sale order on the market knowing it was for 57 mil, I suggest other alliances set 7th Viermacht Brigade to negative standings as it's clear that they do things like this for living no matter if he pays back the 56 mil or not. Is this a market exploit or not? Well some of you might agree with me and some not, As there is an option to do this on the market it must not be called an exploit some might say. Well if we look at the grid exploit, pilots had the option to use grid for their good while camping, they also had the option no to. So we can probably argue about if this is an exploit or not. From my point of view this is an dishonorable act and an exploit.
Well back to the mails. Perssephone is the CEO of the corp. Sticky Vicky is in and therefore I sent him a mail asking him to pay the money back or I would set SE's standings towards his corp. to -10.00. I got this replay:
2005.01.05 1: Teach your corp. members basic numeracy
2: Actually Xetic is the largest Alliance
3: As im a CA alt i couldnbt give a **** if u declare on meh or not
4: Have a nice day
Notice answer nr. 3. Here Perssephone claims he's a CA alt. As most of you know SE has been at war with CA for long time. Last night a CA member asked one of my friends and fellow member not to POD kill him because he had full set of implants, after his ship got destroyed and his pod was webbed and scrambled. So what do you call that other than begging for mercy? But the bottom line in the mail is not that CA is begging for mercy. The bottom line is that players like Sticky Vicky and Perssephone should be hunted down for their foolish acts. SE standings towards them have already been set to -10.00.
I would just like to clarify that this sale order was not a mistake on my part. I currently have in the region of 300-500mils worth of brokers fee's sitting in various scams all over eve. "Dishonarable act and exploit" well i guess that depends on which side of the fence you are sitting. Personal i'd consider myself a moden day Robin Hood, I take from the Rich and give to the poor I have made many new players very rich with these scams, arms dealers, ice suppliers ect. I always pay these guys over the odds for basic stuff, just because well, i can afford to 
As a corp we do not lie, steal or cheat. Market scams is as far as it goes. There is no betral of trust and all the infomation needed to avoid these scams is right infront of your eyes. We do not hide behind alts, or even hide in a noob corp. We all love PVP and if these scams mean people are gonna come looking for us, even better. Its not as if we are scared to loose our ships, there plenty more where they came from 
Even tho we are no longer affiliated with CA we are still loyal to the cause. Infact we are prolly doing more damage to their nme's now than we did while flying with the fleet. We do not play without rules, personally any true noob or CA member that falls for one of these scams will get their isk/ship replaced on request. However when a 18 month old character who's a member of a rich 0.0 based corp/alliance falls for it and then begs for their isk back, thats another story. You claim/blockade vast area's of 0.0, monopolise the rare minerals and use the wealth gained by this to inturn monopolise and new technologies coming into the eve universe (tech 2 stuff for instance) and then expect us to pitty the "nub" who pays 57mil for somethign worth 57k?
Its funny how SE, Xetic & FA are the biggest victims of these scams. I've never seen a BoB or CA member fall for these. Mistakes in eve are costly to say the least and i guess this is a reflection of who makes mistakes and who dosn't... As for the Xanadu guy who bought 5 wasps for 340mil then pleads poverty and begs for his isk back  |

Sticky Vicky
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Posted - 2005.01.06 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: JoCool I don't give a **** about the things those alt said and it's certainly faked anyway. I also made my point clear that I am against mercy for the Curse Alliance (of Pirates hehe).
1 - Who's the alt and if you dont give a **** why post in the first place?
2 - "certainly faked" even tho a member of your very own corp admits it?
3 - People like you make our wallets very fat  |

Icarus100
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Posted - 2005.01.06 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kayosoni Please SA, have pity on us, I need better loot :/
http://www.siegedom.com/Files/Eve/Kills/Rampage/
yay! you ganked a tempest with 3 bs's on your sides, you're so ³ber 1337!
*snip*nub
Edited for profanity - Jacques Archambault - My hair is ugly.. |

4th Dominion
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Posted - 2005.01.06 08:47:00 -
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Not that I care about what happens to CA, but this ceasefire kinda blows...
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.01.06 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Perssephone This was a mail sent to me by a MASS member. I and my corp are not affiliated with CA in any way.
2005.01.05 17:44:00 Well its your call. I will have a nice day and even nicer day when I see ur corpse in my hangar. Just had a little chat with my friends, u will be set to negative standings not only by SE corps, u will be set to negative standing by corps in alliances friendly to us. Every one agree that persons that exploit the market like this should be "pushed" out of the game. We like our ploits to be able to buy from the market with out worrying about nubs like you spoling it. As you probably know your self, pilots can do simple mistakes like this when fiting their ships for battle, specially when they need to do it in a hurry. As you are a CA alt you should probably know that the CA leaders have been contacting us asking for mercy. This is not helping at all. RIP
i find this hard to believe can CA confirm this?
Odd.. Contact me with your main Ingame and I will sort whoever is sending this crap around.
Thanks ==============================================
We do the Blowing up thingy |

JoCool
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Posted - 2005.01.06 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: Sticky Vicky
1 - Who's the alt and if you dont give a **** why post in the first place?
2 - "certainly faked" even tho a member of your very own corp admits it?
3 - People like you make our wallets very fat 
1 I don't give a **** about any CA member begging for mercy. 2 A member of my corp admits it? Who I don't see his post! 3 I have never let myself get scammed yet.
Unplug your keyboard, I thought scammers were smart people.
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.01.06 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kayosoni Please SA, have pity on us, I need better loot :/
http://www.siegedom.com/Files/Eve/Kills/Rampage/
You're prob so poor because you get blown up all the time. Seeing a T2 Gun for the first time can be an amazing experience can it not.
Oi, more importantly, why do you have just Tier 1 battleships with miner 2s and Assault Frigates at your safespots. Have pity on us, we want better ships :/
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.01.06 10:00:00 -
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stop smacking jo -.-
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We do the Blowing up thingy |

Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2005.01.06 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Svabbi k Asni

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Sticky Vicky
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Posted - 2005.01.06 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Hamfrid
Well back to the mails. Perssephone is the CEO of the corp. Sticky Vicky is in and therefore I sent him a mail asking him to pay the money back or I would set SE's standings towards his corp. to -10.00.

Dominix = 70,000 isk. Apocaylpse = 115,000 isk. The resulting smacktalk = Priceless. |

Hamrammur
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Posted - 2005.01.06 12:17:00 -
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Edited by: Hamrammur on 07/01/2005 11:29:46
Quote: We all love PVP and if these scams mean people are gonna come looking for us, even better. Its not as if we are scared to loose our ships, there plenty more where they came from
Where you hiding? Bring it on *snip*ur !!
edited - Jacques Archambault
Hamrammur MASS Director
Felix Legion Spec Ops |

Leyla Anshley
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Posted - 2005.01.06 12:43:00 -
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we need enemies now... pink life with flowers is crap!
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Hamrammur
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Posted - 2005.01.07 11:57:00 -
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Quote: Personal i'd consider myself a moden day Robin Hood, I take from the Rich and give to the poor I have made many new players very rich with these scams, arms dealers, ice suppliers ect. I always pay these guys over the odds for basic stuff, just because well, i can afford to
Robin Hood only exists in fairytales, except you are referring to Robin Hood: Men in Tights. You and your friends or should say your "partners", will get a unpleasant visit up the backdoor. So if I was you I would be wearing something else than tights if you wanna be able to walk straight again.
Hamrammur MASS Director
Felix Legion Spec Ops |

Random
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Posted - 2005.01.07 12:25:00 -
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YARR i have no idea what the topic is but i agree with my corp members yarr
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Sticky Vicky
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Posted - 2005.01.07 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Hamrammur
Robin Hood only exists in fairytales,
Eve is a virtual world, not a real story...
Quote: Men in Tights.
Sounds like a fetish to me.
Quote: will get a unpleasant visit up the backdoor.
Why use the backdoor when the front door is always open? For 57mil isk anyone can get sticky with Vicky.
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Izzard
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Posted - 2005.01.07 15:45:00 -
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I r t3h newb scamz0r ================================================= Hi,I'm an alt, got a safespot I can sit and smack in?? Too Afraid to use my main |

Dray
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Posted - 2005.01.07 17:03:00 -
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i think what the real issue here is, is that it takes no skill, im not condemning it ive setup escrows and market transactions that were meant to scam enemies of mine, but its not hard and all your relying on is the haste of the buyer, tho i have to be honest here and say, i never ever, not once, bought in agil or newhere near disputed regions of space without checking the price, the reaction you got is to be expected and well you know it, this thread is as intresting as it is pointless
I picked up this ace book today everyone rates it as a must buy for the budding military genius, tho ive decided to rename it as "Sun Tzu's art of the bloody obvious" |

Kayosoni
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Posted - 2005.01.07 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: JoCool
You're prob so poor because you get blown up all the time. Seeing a T2 Gun for the first time can be an amazing experience can it not.
Um, how about asking your allymates if they've EVER killed the following characters in battleships:
Kayosoni Vina Urbanslayer
Please, ask you alliance mates how many times they've killed me. I would love to know. -----------------------------------
Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server |

dalman
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Posted - 2005.01.07 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Kayosoni
Originally by: JoCool
You're prob so poor because you get blown up all the time. Seeing a T2 Gun for the first time can be an amazing experience can it not.
Um, how about asking your allymates if they've EVER killed the following characters in battleships:
Kayosoni Vina Urbanslayer
Please, ask you alliance mates how many times they've killed me. I would love to know.
LOL. First, I'll flame my corpmate; Since Kayo is playing 4 accounts and has at least 2 battleships for each of his mains, he's not 'poor'.
Second, I'll flame Kayo; Since these characters usually could be found in dualMWD-ravens next to 15 OC Scorpions, it really wasn't that easy to kill them ;)
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Kayosoni
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Posted - 2005.01.07 23:25:00 -
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Actually, 6 accounts now :)
4 battleship mains, industry account, elite frig/cruiser main. :) |

HeLlRaIzA666
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Posted - 2005.01.08 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kayosoni Actually, 6 accounts now :)
4 battleship mains, industry account, elite frig/cruiser main. :)
Man i wish i could afford that many accounts --------------------------------------------
In War There Are No Runners Up...
Image by Denrace |

Valdi
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Posted - 2005.01.09 04:53:00 -
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i¦m so tired right now, i¦ve got no idea what¦s going on --- We just came to crush...
Director of Recruitment
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Ky Vatta
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Posted - 2005.01.09 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: 4th Dominion Not that I care about what happens to CA, but this ceasefire kinda blows...
What Ceasefire?? AFAIK, it was just a ploy towards those leaving CA; the ceasefire is with them, not CA.....so, proof that SE really love their own propaganda (and only fools believe it )
Btw, why do SE hang onto the skirts of non-Alliance(Pirate)Corps like ATUK?? Xetic,maybe....but its just further proof you can`t do your own dirty work... Corp Chief Engineer |

Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2005.01.09 19:25:00 -
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Kayo maybe rich, but he is a nub. :[ Reverend Necrona |
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