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Rapturea
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Posted - 2003.06.29 08:40:00 -
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At first glance the thorax looks very sub-par , and i never thought i would be flyign one myself. earlier today i got blown up due to the field not loading til its too late bug, there happened to be a thorax avialible at the station i ussed, so i decided to give it a try. after mounting 3 250mm gauss guns, and 2 light ion anode's to pop those silly soldiers, it was surprisingly good. witht the hybrid mod the thorax gives the mounted damage was around 5.3x for the gauss guns, thats pretty impressive for a hybrid, once the good hybrid damage mods because more avialible the damage will be very good. another thing thats worth the train time is the heavy drones. those things shredd up npc targets very quickly, i havent tried them agianst PC's yet but at the very least they are a good distraction.
Only thing i would ask for the thorax to get is 50 more grid and posibly another non-turret highslot to add an auto targeter to shoot down missles. in closing, you did a fairly good job with his ship ccp, when you take ALL the stats into consideration, addign either of those things would be great for the missle defence department, because currently nothing can really be done without sacrificing a turret, which is hard to do. anyone else have any constructive suggestions about little perks tot he ships stats? please post, thanks.
Edited by: Rapturea on 29/06/2003 08:40:22
When I was a kid my favorite relative was Uncle Caveman. After school we'd all go play in his cave, and every once in a while he would eat one of us. It wasn't until later that I found out that Uncle Caveman was a bear. -jack handy |
Rapturea
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Posted - 2003.06.29 08:40:00 -
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At first glance the thorax looks very sub-par , and i never thought i would be flyign one myself. earlier today i got blown up due to the field not loading til its too late bug, there happened to be a thorax avialible at the station i ussed, so i decided to give it a try. after mounting 3 250mm gauss guns, and 2 light ion anode's to pop those silly soldiers, it was surprisingly good. witht the hybrid mod the thorax gives the mounted damage was around 5.3x for the gauss guns, thats pretty impressive for a hybrid, once the good hybrid damage mods because more avialible the damage will be very good. another thing thats worth the train time is the heavy drones. those things shredd up npc targets very quickly, i havent tried them agianst PC's yet but at the very least they are a good distraction.
Only thing i would ask for the thorax to get is 50 more grid and posibly another non-turret highslot to add an auto targeter to shoot down missles. in closing, you did a fairly good job with his ship ccp, when you take ALL the stats into consideration, addign either of those things would be great for the missle defence department, because currently nothing can really be done without sacrificing a turret, which is hard to do. anyone else have any constructive suggestions about little perks tot he ships stats? please post, thanks.
Edited by: Rapturea on 29/06/2003 08:40:22
When I was a kid my favorite relative was Uncle Caveman. After school we'd all go play in his cave, and every once in a while he would eat one of us. It wasn't until later that I found out that Uncle Caveman was a bear. -jack handy |
Vegeta
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Posted - 2003.06.29 11:44:00 -
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coolest looking cruiser around
2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
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Vegeta
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Posted - 2003.06.29 11:44:00 -
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coolest looking cruiser around
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SavageRabbit
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Posted - 2003.06.29 13:03:00 -
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Don't forget the 2000m3 drone bay. Although often overlooked drones DO make a difference, and that massive drone bay lets you carry a nice assortment with the potential for a a lot of versatility.
You want to have the best mining cruiser in the galaxy. Wack 5 decent mining lasers on the Thorax and put as many Elite/Advanced/Harvesters as you can handle in the drone bay and you'll ravage those husks like nothing.
Want to solo mine the Empire 0.0s (yet to try non-Empire 0.0s so can't confirm this), put a few Heavy drones there (to compliment your 5 turret capabilities) and see the NPCs fall.
Can't decide whether to go firepower or mining - no need! You've got enough room for 20 of each!
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SavageRabbit
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Posted - 2003.06.29 13:03:00 -
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Don't forget the 2000m3 drone bay. Although often overlooked drones DO make a difference, and that massive drone bay lets you carry a nice assortment with the potential for a a lot of versatility.
You want to have the best mining cruiser in the galaxy. Wack 5 decent mining lasers on the Thorax and put as many Elite/Advanced/Harvesters as you can handle in the drone bay and you'll ravage those husks like nothing.
Want to solo mine the Empire 0.0s (yet to try non-Empire 0.0s so can't confirm this), put a few Heavy drones there (to compliment your 5 turret capabilities) and see the NPCs fall.
Can't decide whether to go firepower or mining - no need! You've got enough room for 20 of each!
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Gun Kata
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Posted - 2003.06.29 20:15:00 -
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Sorry to be lame but what hybrid mod are you talking about??
"I have seen everything now."
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Gun Kata
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Posted - 2003.06.29 20:15:00 -
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Sorry to be lame but what hybrid mod are you talking about??
"Psychos do not explode when sunlite hits them, I don't give a f*** how crazy they are" |
Vacuole
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Posted - 2003.06.29 21:05:00 -
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Gallente cruiser skill gives 5% turret damage bonus per level.
But I thought only 10 drones could be used at once.... ?
Edited by: Vacuole on 29/06/2003 21:05:53
Edited by: Vacuole on 29/06/2003 21:10:28
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Vacuole
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Posted - 2003.06.29 21:05:00 -
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Gallente cruiser skill gives 5% turret damage bonus per level.
But I thought only 10 drones could be used at once.... ?
Edited by: Vacuole on 29/06/2003 21:05:53
Edited by: Vacuole on 29/06/2003 21:10:28
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Derran
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Posted - 2003.06.29 21:10:00 -
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You are right. Only 10 drones could be controlled at once if you got your skills that high. But you'd never get a Thorax to hold 10 heavy drones. You'd need 2500 drone bay. I mix in some hammerheads. Still a good drone but just requires megacyte to build.
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Derran
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Posted - 2003.06.29 21:10:00 -
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You are right. Only 10 drones could be controlled at once if you got your skills that high. But you'd never get a Thorax to hold 10 heavy drones. You'd need 2500 drone bay. I mix in some hammerheads. Still a good drone but just requires megacyte to build.
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cyberpir8
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Posted - 2003.07.01 02:16:00 -
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until ccp fixes the launch all drones... the thorax is the worst level 3 cruiser imo.
we need that feature! By not putting that in, they're discriminating against the Gallente. lol j/k
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cyberpir8
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Posted - 2003.07.01 02:16:00 -
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until ccp fixes the launch all drones... the thorax is the worst level 3 cruiser imo.
we need that feature! By not putting that in, they're discriminating against the Gallente. lol j/k
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ClawHammer III
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Posted - 2003.07.01 04:34:00 -
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Yeah, drone control is patheticly clunky ATM but the Thorax is still a good ship. Even more so sence it is getting 25 more powergrid in the next patch :)
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ClawHammer III
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Posted - 2003.07.01 04:34:00 -
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Yeah, drone control is patheticly clunky ATM but the Thorax is still a good ship. Even more so sence it is getting 25 more powergrid in the next patch :)
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Endureth
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Posted - 2003.07.01 07:55:00 -
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With the next patch, the Thorax is getting +25 powergrid and 200 m3 more drone capacity. Don't know if it's set in stone but that is the way it is on chaos right now.
The Vexor is also getting +50 powergrid, which is an unexpected gift because that was already a nice ship, now it's going to be a beast.
-E
Edited by: Endureth on 01/07/2003 07:55:41
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Endureth
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Posted - 2003.07.01 07:55:00 -
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With the next patch, the Thorax is getting +25 powergrid and 200 m3 more drone capacity. Don't know if it's set in stone but that is the way it is on chaos right now.
The Vexor is also getting +50 powergrid, which is an unexpected gift because that was already a nice ship, now it's going to be a beast.
-E
Edited by: Endureth on 01/07/2003 07:55:41
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Will McBlack
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Posted - 2003.07.01 09:11:00 -
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Stupid question maybe, but with an autotargetter you can apparently target incoming missiles... how do you shoot them down? can you just use your blasters or rails to shoot them? I never succeeded into targetting these buggers let alone destroy them ... or does this only apply to the heavier missiles/torpedoes?
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Will McBlack
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Posted - 2003.07.01 09:11:00 -
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Stupid question maybe, but with an autotargetter you can apparently target incoming missiles... how do you shoot them down? can you just use your blasters or rails to shoot them? I never succeeded into targetting these buggers let alone destroy them ... or does this only apply to the heavier missiles/torpedoes?
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Bentguru
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Posted - 2003.07.01 20:18:00 -
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will once the missle is targeted just shoot it with a turret. If it hits bye bye missle
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Bentguru
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Posted - 2003.07.01 20:18:00 -
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will once the missle is targeted just shoot it with a turret. If it hits bye bye missle
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MAALaR
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Posted - 2003.07.01 22:46:00 -
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I've been using the thorax for quite some time now. Its an excellent ship if you know how to equip it. Without much fancy *junk* on it i can still get a 7.5 dmg mod on 250mm Gauss (+ skills of course) As for heavy drones, Wasps will rip through PC or NPC hull/armor amazingly. Currently you can fit 8 Heavies on a thorax. 7.5 dmg mod on a hybrid without much fancy work isnt too shaby, now after this patch when that horrible stacking for every other type of weapon is brought down to size the Thorax will be a very noticed ship for its hybrid capabilities, as well as the other Gallente line of ships (Dominix and so forth).
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MAALaR
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Posted - 2003.07.01 22:46:00 -
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I've been using the thorax for quite some time now. Its an excellent ship if you know how to equip it. Without much fancy *junk* on it i can still get a 7.5 dmg mod on 250mm Gauss (+ skills of course) As for heavy drones, Wasps will rip through PC or NPC hull/armor amazingly. Currently you can fit 8 Heavies on a thorax. 7.5 dmg mod on a hybrid without much fancy work isnt too shaby, now after this patch when that horrible stacking for every other type of weapon is brought down to size the Thorax will be a very noticed ship for its hybrid capabilities, as well as the other Gallente line of ships (Dominix and so forth).
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Seraph Warbird
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Posted - 2003.07.02 02:57:00 -
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I love seeing all this positive reinforcement for the Thorax. I sure do love my cruiser. If you can get 3 250mm rails on this baby you are bound to do some serious damage. Seeing anyone fly this cruiser deserves attention and respect because some people tend to underestimate it (poor fools). The Thorax has scared off "highway robbers" who thought they could threaten me with thier BlackBirds and Celestuses. I would hate to be the one attacked by a fleet of these babies. :)
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Seraph Warbird
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Posted - 2003.07.02 02:57:00 -
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I love seeing all this positive reinforcement for the Thorax. I sure do love my cruiser. If you can get 3 250mm rails on this baby you are bound to do some serious damage. Seeing anyone fly this cruiser deserves attention and respect because some people tend to underestimate it (poor fools). The Thorax has scared off "highway robbers" who thought they could threaten me with thier BlackBirds and Celestuses. I would hate to be the one attacked by a fleet of these babies. :)
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CrazzlY
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Posted - 2003.07.02 04:02:00 -
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"Seeing anyone fly this cruiser deserves attention and respect because some people tend to underestimate it (poor fools)."
Nice written my friend. =)
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CrazzlY
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Posted - 2003.07.02 04:02:00 -
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"Seeing anyone fly this cruiser deserves attention and respect because some people tend to underestimate it (poor fools)."
Nice written my friend. =)
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Emiranda
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Posted - 2003.07.02 05:22:00 -
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I agree with the Thorax being a competent ship. This is mainly because I am a Drone person and with a Thorax this is made a lot easier than the other cruisers around. Having eight heavy drones around while mining is certainly a must in some of the lower security sections in the empires. However drones are no match against battleships in the non empire systems so stick to what it can do namely safely mine (except for pc pirates) in empire space.
For combat duty I put in two 250mm carbide railguns and one dual 150mm carbide for the extra storage. Then I put in two smartbombs for knocking out missiles. Be careful to send your drones away to the oncoming target before you use those or you might loose them to friendly fire. Eight heavy drones take down an arch engraver in 40-60 seconds with level 3 heavy drones operation using wasps only. Using you guns as well will also significantly reduce the time needed to kill an high level pirate.
The Thorax is for those that need flexibility and extensibility. It is not the super cruiser of the universe nor is it very well suited in lower security ratings for mining since it has such a insignificant cargo hold.
Speed can be a problem too. Thoraxes seem to be rather slow and tend to take a long time to turn even at ship command level four.
Using a Thorax to the full in a mining op will make a indy driver of medium level go insane since the Thorax will fill his hull in no time.
I timed it using eight harvester equivalent drones and five XeCl Mining lasers using mining skill 4 will mine about 30x8 + 70x5 ~ 520 ore cargo space a minute. (It seems that the mining drone operation does nothing to increase mining speed of drones or increase its cargo)
There is no ship of cruiser type or lower that can mine this fast.
Emiranda.
Edited by: Emiranda on 02/07/2003 10:25:41
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Emiranda
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Posted - 2003.07.02 05:22:00 -
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I agree with the Thorax being a competent ship. This is mainly because I am a Drone person and with a Thorax this is made a lot easier than the other cruisers around. Having eight heavy drones around while mining is certainly a must in some of the lower security sections in the empires. However drones are no match against battleships in the non empire systems so stick to what it can do namely safely mine (except for pc pirates) in empire space.
For combat duty I put in two 250mm carbide railguns and one dual 150mm carbide for the extra storage. Then I put in two smartbombs for knocking out missiles. Be careful to send your drones away to the oncoming target before you use those or you might loose them to friendly fire. Eight heavy drones take down an arch engraver in 40-60 seconds with level 3 heavy drones operation using wasps only. Using you guns as well will also significantly reduce the time needed to kill an high level pirate.
The Thorax is for those that need flexibility and extensibility. It is not the super cruiser of the universe nor is it very well suited in lower security ratings for mining since it has such a insignificant cargo hold.
Speed can be a problem too. Thoraxes seem to be rather slow and tend to take a long time to turn even at ship command level four.
Using a Thorax to the full in a mining op will make a indy driver of medium level go insane since the Thorax will fill his hull in no time.
I timed it using eight harvester equivalent drones and five XeCl Mining lasers using mining skill 4 will mine about 30x8 + 70x5 ~ 520 ore cargo space a minute. (It seems that the mining drone operation does nothing to increase mining speed of drones or increase its cargo)
There is no ship of cruiser type or lower that can mine this fast.
Emiranda.
Edited by: Emiranda on 02/07/2003 10:25:41
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