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Andromedus
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Posted - 2005.01.06 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: Andromedus on 06/01/2005 13:29:05
Allied Forces Statement
The Allied Forces on this day of deliverance sees fit to offer the Pax Stainorum to the former member corporations of the Curse Alliance. This given to the terms and conditions put forth in a private appendix to said parties.
Under these terms the Allied forces will assume a peacekeeping role in the following regions and take over the stations in them:
Curse Great Wildlands Scalding Pass Wicked Creek Detorid Insmother Cache
The Allied Forces will change the standings for those groups that agree to said terms effective immediately from the signing of the contract.
An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind.
After the initial rage of war cleared from the minds of the warriors from both sides, mutual respect began to grow. This fostered by those fleet commanders who displayed dignity in victory and valor in defeat. In this full scale war on every front for both sides the advantage swung. Invasion met by counter invasion, supply lines cut, logistics disrupted both sides trying to push the other to breaking point. But you would find that at the end of great battles, surrounded by the devastation of war, there would always be a courteous and polite morale between us. On numerous occasions fleet commanders have allowed the defeated sideĘs pilots to return home pod intact.
Out of respect for those actions, for those shared memories, for the blood and passion that we have engaged each other with over this last year we offer this Pax Stainorum.
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.01.06 13:22:00 -
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never thought I was still here to see this day -------------------
Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
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Sergunja
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Posted - 2005.01.06 13:28:00 -
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Hmm, u guys want too much. 'peacekeeping bla bla bla' this means you want to make all ex-CA to your mining slaves. Dream on.
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Zyrtan Keb'Lektar
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Posted - 2005.01.06 13:32:00 -
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well well.. good trade Signature Tech2 approved |

Betty Boom
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Posted - 2005.01.06 13:34:00 -
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Day 1 : The end of Stain Empire (final version)
/me gets popcorn
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Gussi
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Posted - 2005.01.06 13:34:00 -
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Yeah, I wish this could work, but my guess is it'll never happen :) |

thebold
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Posted - 2005.01.06 13:37:00 -
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Thank you CA for the war, all honour and respect should be shown to those that have fought on the battlefield.
We have had many great battles and these battles should go down in the history books.
Thank you All.
Our future is not yet certainą ==============================================
We do the Blowing up thingy |

slacker
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Posted - 2005.01.06 13:40:00 -
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gg
-- slacker |

DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2005.01.06 13:45:00 -
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take note that there has been no military victory this day, and how close both sides have come in victory and defeat over the past year or more __________________________________________________
Scum, your all scum. |

Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2005.01.06 13:45:00 -
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gg. :/ Reverend Necrona |

Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.01.06 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: DJTheBaron take note that there has been no military victory this day, and how close both sides have come in victory and defeat over the past year or more
...guess that the CA-SE war just ended with a draw.... actually I find it very fitting for such war. -------------------
Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
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marakolli
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Posted - 2005.01.06 13:52:00 -
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yeah very good idea lets make the game peacefull and everyone mine 24/7 until you get bored to death and theres no one left to play eve
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Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2005.01.06 13:53:00 -
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Yes we have taken turns on having the upper hand. Who had it this time is of no concern. CA was a victim of dispute and internal conflict, and the minute its strongest pvp corp left it was over.
Great fight guys. And we look to a buildup process with you guys.
/aeryn sun
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.01.06 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sergunja Hmm, u guys want too much. 'peacekeeping bla bla bla' this means you want to make all ex-CA to your mining slaves. Dream on.
nah I don't think it's what they mean cause:
Quote: An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind.
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.01.06 13:59:00 -
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A build up process under the control of stain empire ? I dont think this will happen - curse was meant to be free and it will fight, even when it draws its last breath.
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Astrid Tron
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Posted - 2005.01.06 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: Astrid Tron on 06/01/2005 14:01:41 Hahaha! This is hilarious!
Do you think that everyone will just disappear, Andromedus?
Never underestimate your opponents --------------------------------------------- When you have to kill a man, it takes nothing to be polite |

DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.01.06 14:05:00 -
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Congrats SE for being the ones left standing at the end ^^
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2005.01.06 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher Congrats SE for being the ones left standing at the end ^^
dbp
We are still there too  __________ HC MasiEEE
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.01.06 14:09:00 -
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Is this going to happen or is this just a proposal from SE? Have some (former) CA corps already agreed to this? Does XETIC get anything out of this? -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Mad'Mike Banks
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Posted - 2005.01.06 14:10:00 -
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Edited by: Mad'Mike Banks on 06/01/2005 14:10:31 Xetic is newb compared to SE and CA tho
Edit newb as in alot newer 
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EinaruS
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Posted - 2005.01.06 14:13:00 -
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GG guys.
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2005.01.06 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Astrid Tron Edited by: Astrid Tron on 06/01/2005 14:01:41 Hahaha! This is hilarious!
Do you think that everyone will just disappear, Andromedus?
Never underestimate your opponents
Try opposing them without all your decent corps then. Let's see how long you last:)
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HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2005.01.06 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Mad'Mike Banks Edited by: Mad'Mike Banks on 06/01/2005 14:10:31 Xetic is newb compared to SE and CA tho
Edit newb as in alot newer 
True, but we did our part 
Still sorry too see them go. __________ HC MasiEEE
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Riddari
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Posted - 2005.01.06 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Is this going to happen or is this just a proposal from SE? Have some (former) CA corps already agreed to this? Does XETIC get anything out of this?
Allied forces: SE XETIC ATUK
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.01.06 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kerosene
Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Seleene Is this going to happen or is this just a proposal from SE? Have some (former) CA corps already agreed to this? Does XETIC get anything out of this?
Allied forces: SE XETIC ATUK
don't forget FA.
FA are ? 
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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thelung187
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Posted - 2005.01.06 14:36:00 -
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We are? News to me, but oh wait, we're just ebil miner carebears with 17 copies of every t2 bpo in the game, so it wouldn't matter anyways
[ 2005.05.19 22:54:23 ] InnerDrive > only solution safespot till you leave or mine in empire till you leave or something |

Adarian Silverthorn
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Posted - 2005.01.06 14:40:00 -
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We're allied with Stain and have a NAP with XETIC, but I don't believe FA is included in the context of Andromedus' Allied Forces.
I don't think we'd be able to do a lot of peacekeeping from halfway across the galaxy.
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Jessa
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Posted - 2005.01.06 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: Jessa on 06/01/2005 14:45:25
Originally by: Adarian Silverthorn We're allied with Stain and have a NAP with XETIC, but I don't believe FA is included in the context of Andromedus' Allied Forces.
I don't think we'd be able to do a lot of peacekeeping from halfway across the galaxy.
Nonsense, P00py Pants!
Its time to enslave another alliance... Curse it is!
On a serious note... who gave Stain control of the win button?
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Shadowthrone
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Posted - 2005.01.06 15:05:00 -
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You're declaring the collapse of Curse as some sort of Stain victory. In reality its a Lose-Lose situation. Control of territory in eve is meaningless(unless u want to mine/isk make in peace). The reality is that you have lost your best enemy. The enemy that kept you all united and playing the game.
How many players joined either the Stain or the Curse Alliance just on the basis of being able to fight huge fleet battles?
As much i have disliked the CA in the past, i think its overall sad that the largest and most ebil Alliance has collapsed in on itself.
It will be interesting though to see what happens to the allied forces in the south now that there is no-one to shoot at.
Celes Kill Board
"Show them no mercy, for you will receive none"
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.01.06 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 06/01/2005 15:08:38
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: DB Preacher Congrats SE for being the ones left standing at the end ^^
dbp
We are still there too 
That may be so but SE have been there from the start. Xetic came along waaaaay after SE, CC or CA.
But you guys done good too to remain ... and you have my hero, olyyy :x
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2005.01.06 15:12:00 -
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ohh well 
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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siim
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Posted - 2005.01.06 15:14:00 -
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nothing more than 
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.01.06 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Psy Corp ohh well 
I was thinking the same 
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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mahhy
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Posted - 2005.01.06 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowthrone You're declaring the collapse of Curse as some sort of Stain victory. In reality its a Lose-Lose situation. Control of territory in eve is meaningless(unless u want to mine/isk make in peace). The reality is that you have lost your best enemy. The enemy that kept you all united and playing the game.
How many players joined either the Stain or the Curse Alliance just on the basis of being able to fight huge fleet battles?
As much i have disliked the CA in the past, i think its overall sad that the largest and most ebil Alliance has collapsed in on itself.
It will be interesting though to see what happens to the allied forces in the south now that there is no-one to shoot at.
As much as this pains me to say, I fully agree with a Celest Apoc member 
If this really is the end of CA, life could get boring quick. Hopefully it won't be the end of our war...
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Captain America
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Posted - 2005.01.06 15:33:00 -
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Noooooooooooooo!!! THE mighty CA has fallen? wow
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Random
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Posted - 2005.01.06 15:35:00 -
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Now where did i put my miners 
GG CA 
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Riddari
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Posted - 2005.01.06 15:55:00 -
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I'm personally very surprised to see the number of people who say that the South is peaceful and feels empty now!
It's not like there aren't plenty of corporations still in Curse space that didn't go to Syndicate.
The Russian contigent for one with RUS, RUSH, RUS1UKR, UA Industries and all those guys. Not to mention several others.
Just because CA seems to have been torn into several bits it doesn't pacify the South, far from it. It might lead to more battles as the different factions from CA start to decide who gets Wicked Creek, Detorid, Cache etc etc.
Add to that the Allied Forces moving into that and I don't see a very peaceful future in the South.
¼©¼ a history |

Kjewla
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Posted - 2005.01.06 15:56:00 -
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I have to say its sad to see CA dead like this. It was awsome fighting you guys. Il realy miss the ganking :)
take care boys
Nest etter styrken er ingenting st°rre enn evnen til Õ beherske den.
http://www.subroc.net/teddybears/
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OMGWTFHAX
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Posted - 2005.01.06 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: DB Preacher Congrats SE for being the ones left standing at the end ^^
dbp
We are still there too 
you havent been fighting ca since ur alliance began, unlike sa that have been fighting ca almost since the very start of the game. |

Galaxion
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Posted - 2005.01.06 16:23:00 -
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Well.. may I be the first to say uh-oh.
We are ntering 2005 with no major conflict. The Great Northern war is over. Now the collossal southern war may end soon or dramatically de-scale itself. WHAT ARE WE TO DO?? ALL GO MINE VELD??
This could be the dark ages of conflict, no-one to fight etc etc.
We neeeed to find a new war fast  ----------------------------------------- Everlasting Vendetta PVP Commander, yarr
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Riddari
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Posted - 2005.01.06 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: OMGWTFHAX you havent been fighting ca since ur alliance began, unlike sa that have been fighting ca almost since the very start of the game.
It's actually not "almost since the very start of the game".
Granted it's been on for a long while but CA was/is still not one of the oldest alliances, SA having been formed months ahead, followed by FA and others.
Just a slight technical note 
¼©¼ a history |

B0unty Hunter
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Posted - 2005.01.06 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Galaxion Well.. may I be the first to say uh-oh.
We are ntering 2005 with no major conflict. The Great Northern war is over. Now the collossal southern war may end soon or dramatically de-scale itself. WHAT ARE WE TO DO?? ALL GO MINE VELD??
This could be the dark ages of conflict, no-one to fight etc etc.
We neeeed to find a new war fast 
we could go and terrorise EMpire noobs who mining veld..
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Obidios
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Posted - 2005.01.06 16:44:00 -
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Reading the first few lines and no replies this topic is propaganda of SE trying to jump on the falling apart of the CA, to make it look like it was of SE's making, which it wasn't, it's internal. -----------------
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2005.01.06 16:50:00 -
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GG to Shinra, Votf and Supremacy. --------------------------------------
We are The Collective. Resistance is futile. |

DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2005.01.06 17:10:00 -
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Oh well this sucks hardcore.
Kind of felt like all the previous wars were just leading up to a massive BoB & Co vs CA, so damn cheated :/
On the other hand, a bit of uncertainty in the future is nice  FA is now looking quite plump and juicy, and all the other no-name alliances that normally get ignored might have some trouble :)
teehee.. *puts on his warmongering hat* _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

Radeck
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Posted - 2005.01.06 17:26:00 -
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Edited by: Radeck on 06/01/2005 17:26:59 history repeats itself...this is the classic way empires collapse: internally: the enemy within, rather than due to enemies...eg. Macedonians (after alexander died), Romans etc etc...hopefully a phoenix will rise from the ashes...
as others ahve stated war is a good uniter...SE or XF folks might have the time/energy/boredom to turn on each other and reapeat the same scenario again...hopefully not...
not to mention how peace is bad for the economy...for a care bare miner like me this will reduce demand and therefor prices for ores/minerals...not good... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Captain America
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Posted - 2005.01.06 17:38:00 -
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IĘm sorry but I have to post this.
(Sarah is watching herself interviewed on video while smoking a cigarette) Sarah Connor: It's like a giant strobe light, burning right through my eyes, but somehow I can still see. Look, you know the dream's the same every night, why do I have to...(the doctor encourages her to continue) The children look like burnt paper, black, not moving. And then, the blast wave hits them and they fly apart like leaves...It's not a dream, you moron, it's real. I know the date it happens...on August 29th, 1997, (exploding with panicked hysterical rage) it's gonna feel pretty ******* REAL to you, too! Anybody not wearing two million sunblock is gonna have a real bad day, get it?!...You think you're safe and alive. You're already dead. Everybody, him, you, you're dead already. This whole place. Everything you see is gone. You're the one livin' in a *****NG dream, Silverman! Because I know it happens. IT HAPPENS! (the video is paused on her angry hysterics)
Sarah: I feel much better now. Clearer.
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rittersporn2
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Posted - 2005.01.06 17:38:00 -
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This is breathtaking. The oldest War in Eve has ended.
It wasn't a victory on the battlefield, it was the exhaustion of resource and personal. The PvP-backbone of Curse left over the last weeks, leaving an industrial core which wasn't expected to last long. But in the end it were the russians who stood up one last time at the XETIC-border and surprised us by their resiliance - taking your chance without central leadership it where the russians which fought the last great battle under the banner of curse and not those which left you alone in the end.
This is a great time for the southern colonies and for the Amarrian borderzones. Its a time to bring law and order to these territories. Weed out the pirate scum plaguing the devout subjects of his godly emporer at the Amarr-Providence-Border. Develop the allied regions which where formerly plagued by military operations. Pacify and regulate the new territories. Make a peace which makes everyone prosper, even those who where opposing us for so long and with such fierce.
God bless you all.
Ritters****2 (name censored to protect minors like you)
Graduate of Darth Vader School of Personal Management
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.01.06 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Radeck Edited by: Radeck on 06/01/2005 17:26:59 history repeats itself...this is the classic way empires collapse: internally: the enemy within, rather than due to enemies...eg. Macedonians (after alexander died), Romans etc etc...hopefully a phoenix will rise from the ashes...
as others ahve stated war is a good uniter...SE or XF folks might have the time/energy/boredom to turn on each other and reapeat the same scenario again...hopefully not...
not to mention how peace is bad for the economy...for a care bare miner like me this will reduce demand and therefor prices for ores/minerals...not good...
"a good leader prepares for war in times of peace"
....never forget that -------------------
Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
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Skoshi
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Posted - 2005.01.06 17:42:00 -
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ok lets do it this way, all you guys up there in the north vs all us down here in the south and heaven help the n00bs in the middle . We gotta have some way of losing our ships so we have a reason for mining YEY... You're my wife now CA 
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Nepereta
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Posted - 2005.01.06 17:44:00 -
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Gutted,
GG
Respect to all ex-CA who fought hard: especially OC, Supremacy, RUSH.
A big respect to the CA team that ganked my sniperggedon. You brought me back in touch with mortality my shrinks say I was beginning to get an immortality complex.
Disrespect to all those who couldn't get thru the war without resorting to smack talk and scams.
I didn't want victory ( especially not like this ) just an eternity of war. Its like the end of Eve War 1 : since virtually everyone was affected by this war at some time.
Now I will go back to building more POS and mining arkanor and Bistot like the sorry ass carebear I used to be before Xetic joined the war.
By the next war I will be even richer. Until then I will try to learn to enjoy the peace.
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Rocius
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Posted - 2005.01.06 17:54:00 -
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Personaly, I believe that as GW is Thukker tribes sovereign space, the Matari Republic should seize control of The Great Wildlands as its own. Any help the Republic could give to the Thukkers would be good. 
Dont take your gaming too serious ! |

Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2005.01.06 18:12:00 -
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Quote: An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind.
Quote: After the initial rage of war cleared from the minds of the warriors from both sides, mutual respect began to grow. This fostered by those fleet commanders who displayed dignity in victory and valor in defeat. In this full scale war on every front for both sides the advantage swung. Invasion met by counter invasion, supply lines cut, logistics disrupted both sides trying to push the other to breaking point. But you would find that at the end of great battles, surrounded by the devastation of war, there would always be a courteous and polite morale between us. On numerous occasions fleet commanders have allowed the defeated sideĘs pilots to return home pod intact.
Kudos and respect to the Stain Empire for this level of good natured maturity. Very impressive. If this truly is the end to EVEs longest running interstellar conflict, then closure with this kind of class should be commended regardless of the cause.
Oberon Incorporated bows in respect to both the CA and SE for what their conflict has brought to us all for so long.
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |

olyyyyy
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Posted - 2005.01.06 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher That may be so but SE have been there from the start. Xetic came along waaaaay after SE, CC or CA.
But you guys done good too to remain ... and you have my hero, olyyy :x
dbp
They just don't understand how lucky they are ! 
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |

Psy Corp
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Posted - 2005.01.06 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: olyyyyy
Originally by: DB Preacher That may be so but SE have been there from the start. Xetic came along waaaaay after SE, CC or CA.
But you guys done good too to remain ... and you have my hero, olyyy :x
dbp
They just don't understand how lucky they are ! 
no we are blind 
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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Pride NL
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Posted - 2005.01.06 18:39:00 -
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Stain is getting*****y. Curse space is not your territory to play judge of.
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Svabbi k
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Posted - 2005.01.06 19:42:00 -
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Was fun! GG
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xxShadexx
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Posted - 2005.01.06 19:56:00 -
[58]
Hehe
GG CA
Was pleased i made the most of it comming into your space in the last few days :)
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Oohwha Schipperman
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Posted - 2005.01.06 20:04:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Oohwha Schipperman on 06/01/2005 20:05:15
Originally by: Rocius Personaly, I believe that as GW is Thukker tribes sovereign space, the Matari Republic should seize control of The Great Wildlands as its own. Any help the Republic could give to the Thukkers would be good. 
Thukk off.
(sorry, it hadda be said)

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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2005.01.06 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: xxShadexx Hehe
GG CA
Was pleased i made the most of it comming into your space in the last few days :)
Ah, the next group thats going to declare this is a victory on their behalf. __________________________
http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |

ZelRox
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Posted - 2005.01.06 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Pride NL Stain is getting*****y. Curse space is not your territory to play judge of.
Who said anything about Curse :) The abundance of ore makes it very interessting, but remoteness to our home, makes it sucky. I dont think SA is in the market for realestate. I hope, reaaaaly hope that SUPRM, VOTF and SNRA will come back in some form, and lay contest on the regions again. Eve isnt the same without you. ----------------------
I wanna tuc tuc .. |

Kayosoni
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Posted - 2005.01.06 20:37:00 -
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SE does not understand what they are saying by declaring victory...
SE will never see another 30+ ship engagment ever again. In fact, SE vs CA was previously the largest fleet engagment ever in Eve. Now it is VOTF/SUPRM/R-K vs JQA/3fa. I wouldn't be happy being SE now that they no longer have the record for the biggest battle in eve. The best they can get is a gank or two in u-q or HED now. You guys have no idea how boring the game is going to get, unless you enjoy mining in peace. Which there is really no point in unless you want to ebay it (since you can easilly make BILLIONS a week.)
If people don't start turning on eachother down there, we'll see those alliances breaking up from people leaving the game from boredom. -----------------------------------
Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server |

Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2005.01.06 20:41:00 -
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I dont think SE are claiming victory really. I think it's more so an issue of them acknowleding the CA no longer exists and that the remaining corps in curse space are co-operating with them.
GG SE, it was awesome fun, GG xetic as well, just u aint got the brass balls that SE have. I'd especially like to thank Areyn Sun and her crew. The ammount of times they've suprised us by engaging when the odds looked unfavourable is a compliment in itself. More to the point it provided everyone of us (both CA and SE) with entertainment for that evening, win or lose.
My only beef with the war has been lag, for the entire year and half that i've fought SE/SA lag has always been an issue (bar for the 1 month that they actually fixed lag, but then broke it again :/).
/me tips hat /me bows /me makes way to syndicate Reverend Necrona |

Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2005.01.06 21:22:00 -
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/tips hat as well
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.01.06 22:07:00 -
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enjoyed playing this game mainly because of ca. you gave us some cool fights and enjoyable evenings.
GG STAN
FACTA NON VERBA |

Alowishus
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Posted - 2005.01.06 22:36:00 -
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There will still be an enemy to fight in the south. Do you guys actually think all the corps in CA will agree to our terms? I don't ****ing think so. There are strong PvP corps left in CA that I personally fully expect to give us a hell of a time keeping order in CA space.
The fighting has just evolved.
And **** 30-ship blob battles, I always have and always will hate them. And since I'm selfish, I don't really give a **** about the feelings of anyone else.
Good day.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |

Malecoda
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Posted - 2005.01.06 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus There will still be an enemy to fight in the south. Do you guys actually think all the corps in CA will agree to our terms? I don't ****ing think so. There are strong PvP corps left in CA that I personally fully expect to give us a hell of a time keeping order in CA space.
The fighting has just evolved.
And **** 30-ship blob battles, I always have and always will hate them. And since I'm selfish, I don't really give a **** about the feelings of anyone else.
Well put.
Good day.
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ZelRox
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Posted - 2005.01.06 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kayosoni SE does not understand what they are saying by declaring victory...
SE will never see another 30+ ship engagment ever again. In fact, SE vs CA was previously the largest fleet engagment ever in Eve. Now it is VOTF/SUPRM/R-K vs JQA/3fa. I wouldn't be happy being SE now that they no longer have the record for the biggest battle in eve. The best they can get is a gank or two in u-q or HED now. You guys have no idea how boring the game is going to get, unless you enjoy mining in peace. Which there is really no point in unless you want to ebay it (since you can easilly make BILLIONS a week.)
If people don't start turning on eachother down there, we'll see those alliances breaking up from people leaving the game from boredom.
well come for a visit :) and yes, im afraid of just that happening. ----------------------
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Malarkey
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Posted - 2005.01.06 23:42:00 -
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Edited by: Malarkey on 06/01/2005 23:42:44 After all the mutual back-slpping and the "Jolly well done, fellows", allow me to utter some words of dissension.
I have often likened CA to the barbarians of yore; intent only on violence and destruction, with more territory and stations than they knew what to do with. That they collapsed comes as no surprise whatsoever. It was inevitable. And I, for one, am not sorry to see them go.
I look forward to some times of peace and plenty. Times when we can develop our industrial might and produce and develop and build, without the constant nuisance of having to deal with a bunch of organised pirates.
And, before you flame me, yes, I did my bit, fought in Curse, Cache, Detorid, Immensea, Wicked Creek, all over. But I didnt enjoy it. As far as I am concerned it diverted from more enjoyable past-times and I believe this is true of the majority of the peace loving peoples of Xetic, Stain and the Empire.
I sincerely hope that the peoples that made up the Curse Alliance will return to 0.0 and take a step forward in the social evolution of the Eve Universe and abandon their constant warring to build new nations founded on justice, freedom and honesty, together with a new, earned respect for their neighbours' rights to live peacefully within their borders, free from hostile interference.
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Admiral Seafort
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Posted - 2005.01.07 00:18:00 -
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The fact of the matter is that EVE cannot survive on the gathering of riches alone. It's immensely boring to gather increasing amounts of wealth with no purpose toward which to spend it. For many, their preferred method of enjoying the game is PvP. Not PvE, which (in the opinion of some, anyway) can be incredibly dull and/or repetitive and/or predictable. Thus, there will be enough PvP for those who want it, or there will be a different type of Exodus (either from EVE or from those regions where PvP is no longer prevalent).
Given this tendency of many combat-oriented players to prefer PvP above any other particular mechanic of the game, I highly doubt that the "southern" regions of EVE (tangent: Does EVE need to implement the whole "sector" deal or something? There is really no way to specify directions without referring to an arbitrarily oriented flat map which is highly unrealistic) will be peaceful for very long, even if CA accepts the offer. It's not unlikely that a new group would emerge to fight SE and XF. Perhaps SE/CA/XF/MC (miscellaneous corporations) will end up at odds with the northern alliances...
There is yet hope for giant fleet battles. Just think, the entire north against the entire south...the Great War/War to End All Wars/EVE War I.
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Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2005.01.07 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Aeryn Sun on 07/01/2005 00:37:40 Edited by: Aeryn Sun on 07/01/2005 00:35:54 Edited by: Aeryn Sun on 07/01/2005 00:35:34
Originally by: Obidios Reading the first few lines and no replies this topic is propaganda of SE trying to jump on the falling apart of the CA, to make it look like it was of SE's making, which it wasn't, it's internal.
How do you know we didn't have something to do with the internal conflict. j/k
Before the rumours surfaced we were approached by several CA corps about a NAP or truce of some sorts. It wasn't until the larger pvp corps left when this became a plausible reality. Very hard to win large scale wars in eve. Next to impossible unless from within as many state on this thread.
Before this announcement was made, already 13 corps had agreed to our terms in exchange for an end of hostilities. We showed them the respect of not making this public when details were being sorted out in their own camp. Eventually we couldn't wait longer as we needed to extend this to all CA corps.
Since the offer was made public, we have come a long way in our preperations with the corps that want peace. This region is in fear of being infested by gold diggers and pirates that want part of the action. It is essential that we pacify the area as soon as possible, to the extend that it is possible.
Allied Forces in the south are working with the corps that have signed the deal to make this transition as easy as possible.
One thing to note: When Shinra left CA didnt have much of a chance to defend itself. You can flame me all you want but its the truth. By then many of the pvp corps had left, and it wasn't even remotely fair to be fighting an alliance with internal issues as those. I strongly believe that we are doing the right thing. What would happen if we wouldn't. Yes it would become a long (eh longer) dragging war with the CA fighting impossible ods. More so impossible than when Stain was in a similar position as the active fleet numbers in those days were but a fraction of what they are today.
But no worries, combat in the south is far from over. Apart from die hards in CA, SE has other enemies, as do ATUk and XIF. There will be another Great War.
Please stop smacking on the posts related to this matter, and look forward to ventures and fights to come.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.01.07 00:37:00 -
[72]
It's not over yet. It's far from being over.
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Kretta Daisul
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Posted - 2005.01.07 00:43:00 -
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Edited by: Kretta Daisul on 07/01/2005 00:43:53 Everyone's worried about how peaceful things will be antebellum.
Odd, people came up with reasons to fight before, and war evolved out of peace before ...
Times change, things evolve, pirates organize, some settle down and make lotsa baby pirates, some even aspire to imperial dreams and legitimacy by rewriting the past.
Its a circle, a cycle. Nothing lasts forever, -especially- peace.
Thing is, of all the PvP corps that left CA, none left EvE, and I highly doubt they're becoming miners and industrialists themselves. If they are, its only temporary, to retool for the next series of brushfires, wars, Alliance stomping/camping. I mean christ-a-mighty, they left CA and some of the biggest running gunbattles broke out on the other side of EvE.
If you wanna fight, pick a side up -there- and have at it, as I doubt its over just yet.
"An Eye for an Eye ... is necessary when dealing with cybernetics, unless you want to look like a borged out freak." - Kretta Daisul |

R4d1o4ct1v3
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Posted - 2005.01.07 01:04:00 -
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If the south becomes a war-free zone and everybody is dying of bordome, we could always try to take down the biggest power of them all, Concord. I mean all those alliances and former CA corps down here could easilly make a huge gang, gangs even, and raid Yulay. Dont know how CCP would handle it but they cant really ban the bunch of us. Then we could always just fight each other. Not as enemys but as friends fighting for a title, "Alliance of the month" or something. I dont think this game could ever become boring. If there are so many ppl that want to shoot something then they will find something to shoot at.
btw. Nice fighting you CA. Hope we can fight again in the future. ------------------- 01 011 011 0111.. |

HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2005.01.07 01:14:00 -
[75]
Edited by: HeadHunta II on 07/01/2005 01:21:36 Edited by: HeadHunta II on 07/01/2005 01:18:39
Originally by: Adarian Silverthorn
I don't think we'd be able to do a lot of peacekeeping from halfway across the galaxy.
Originally by: Jessa Edited by: Jessa on 06/01/2005 14:45:25
Originally by: Adarian Silverthorn We're allied with Stain and have a NAP with XETIC, but I don't believe FA is included in the context of Andromedus' Allied Forces.
I don't think we'd be able to do a lot of peacekeeping from halfway across the galaxy.
Nonsense, P00py Pants!
Its time to enslave another alliance... Curse it is!
On a serious note... who gave Stain control of the win button?
Enslave??? Peacekeeping??? Bu..bu..buhahahah. 
"Get in where u fit in!" "-V- Minister of foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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archangel sean
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Posted - 2005.01.07 01:17:00 -
[76]
Cheers to all that were involved. It was a great experience to all of us. I believe through these great moments of pressure and power struggle, we have made ourselves one of the strongest entities in eve.
A personally amusing fact I discovered over the times was, I have fought in CA against SE, fought in XETIC against SE, and finally fought in XETIC against CA. In end, I'm sure most of us have become friends, irrelevant to the direction we point our turrets.
I hope and look forward to future fleet operations between all allied forces and the upcoming challenges we may face.
GG, CA.
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EL TITAN
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Posted - 2005.01.07 01:20:00 -
[77]
Edited by: EL TITAN on 07/01/2005 01:19:57
Id like to say good game to Atuk and SE.
Thanks for all the battles and engagements we had down there by catch/curse/stain, they were all fun, and I am very sad if you guys get bored ;\ there probably will be less enemies for you to shoot at down there :(
Also I'd like to correct some of my teamates who fail to mention .MF. and the Armoured Assassins guys, as they are also up in the Syndicate region with us fighting the enemy.
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fugazii
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Posted - 2005.01.07 01:22:00 -
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no offence but any curse corp that agrees to make peace with stain should be shamed, and a dishonour to what the ca have always stood for. any self-respecting curse member would leave these puppet ca mining corps that want nothing more than to gain from the land, with least amount of problems, no pride in thier alliance at all. the 13 corps that have asked for peace are nothing more than traitors and turncoats. willing to throw away what they are at at the first sign of trouble. 3 corps leaving ca shouldnt be the end of the 3rd largest alliance, jst goes to show how much dead-wieght good-for-nothing miners ca housed.
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Caldari Alt
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Posted - 2005.01.07 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: fugazii no offence but any curse corp that agrees to make peace with stain should be shamed, and a dishonour to what the ca have always stood for. any self-respecting curse member would leave these puppet ca mining corps that want nothing more than to gain from the land, with least amount of problems, no pride in thier alliance at all. the 13 corps that have asked for peace are nothing more than traitors and turncoats. willing to throw away what they are at at the first sign of trouble. 3 corps leaving ca shouldnt be the end of the 3rd largest alliance, jst goes to show how much dead-wieght good-for-nothing miners ca housed.
LOL FE LOL HONOR LOLOLOLOL
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Nira Li
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Posted - 2005.01.07 02:03:00 -
[80]
well... what can I say. The best enemy ever is gone and it has been a pleasure to fight u guys. Props to all CA that haven proven thier skills in combat.
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2005.01.07 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: fugazii no offence but any curse corp that agrees to make peace with stain should be shamed, and a dishonour to what the ca have always stood for. any self-respecting curse member would leave these puppet ca mining corps that want nothing more than to gain from the land, with least amount of problems, no pride in thier alliance at all. the 13 corps that have asked for peace are nothing more than traitors and turncoats. willing to throw away what they are at at the first sign of trouble. 3 corps leaving ca shouldnt be the end of the 3rd largest alliance, jst goes to show how much dead-wieght good-for-nothing miners ca housed.
Amen to that.
Member of the Curse Alliance before the Corruption Leader of The Black Plague.
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Al Haquis
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Posted - 2005.01.07 04:54:00 -
[82]
Humm are you telling me that MASS (Minestry of amarr secret service ) is taking over "Peace Patrols" of Thukker tribe systems ????
Want an answer from a SE offical on this one.
With love from -MM-
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EinaruS
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Posted - 2005.01.07 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus There will still be an enemy to fight in the south. Do you guys actually think all the corps in CA will agree to our terms? I don't ****ing think so. There are strong PvP corps left in CA that I personally fully expect to give us a hell of a time keeping order in CA space.
The fighting has just evolved.
And **** 30-ship blob battles, I always have and always will hate them. And since I'm selfish, I don't really give a **** about the feelings of anyone else.
Good day.
The Russian corporations are trying to fight back atm. They will eventually give up and surrender. I think Curse Alliance has about 600-700 members atm and the numbers are dropping.
And what do you have against 30 ship blob battles. 30 ships is Perfect. It's not laggy and it can last for some time. Maybe you are thinking of 100+ ships like sometimes.
I love battles with 100-200 ships like in HED and U-Q. Despite the lag it's just really fun to see so many players fighting each other.
Well just want to add that is was a great honor fighting Curse Alliance. Specially VOTF, SHINRA and Suprm (not Spurm ).
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Sergunja
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Posted - 2005.01.07 11:04:00 -
[84]
we are defending our space from foreign enslavers. we will never become your mining slaves.
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2005.01.07 11:17:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Andromedus the Allied forces will assume a peacekeeping role
See, here's the mistake. I doubt that the corporations who are still there would welcome your involvement, or more correctly: meddling, on their territories, and you are well aware of that.
Hence, i see no respect in your statement, only mockery. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Intukaki
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Posted - 2005.01.07 12:40:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Sergunja we are defending our space from foreign enslavers. we will never become your mining slaves.
And you are doing such a good job
Maybe you should try and negotiate and get something? or be left with nothing.
Arrogance is your worst enemy and will kill you if you do not negotiate
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Sergunja
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Posted - 2005.01.07 12:53:00 -
[87]
i smell pathetic alt here...
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Intukaki
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Posted - 2005.01.07 12:59:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Sergunja i smell pathetic alt here...
I smell a pathetic main
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2005.01.07 13:01:00 -
[89]
Oh no, sergunja lost a malediction, how will he ever recover from that:).
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2005.01.07 13:09:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Intukaki
Originally by: Sergunja we are defending our space from foreign enslavers. we will never become your mining slaves.
And you are doing such a good job
Maybe you should try and negotiate and get something? or be left with nothing.
Arrogance is your worst enemy and will kill you if you do not negotiate
Onoes, an alt in an altcorp on an altmobile posting a killmail! zis mast bi zeh end ov ze vorld! ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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agentsmitty
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Posted - 2005.01.07 13:14:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Intukaki
Originally by: Sergunja i smell pathetic alt here...
I smell a pathetic main
lol
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.01.07 14:12:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Al Haquis Humm are you telling me that MASS (Minestry of amarr secret service ) is taking over "Peace Patrols" of Thukker tribe systems ????
Want an answer from a SE offical on this one.
With love from -MM-
Where the hell is Thukker Tribes? you sure you got the right [MASS] not Critical MASS? ==============================================
We do the Blowing up thingy |

Kibachaan
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Posted - 2005.01.07 14:17:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Random Now where did i put my miners 
GG CA 
I got some spares for ya dude :)
Those of you who say that SE have lost from the dismantling of former CA, aren't speaking from SE's point of view.
If SE wants big fleet battles and a major enemy to fight, they can find one. It's easy to make enemies. Who is telling SE that it has to be CA? oh, that's right, others who are potential enemies.
Many characters are failing to see what the intentions of the Allied Forces are. We are continuing to clear out our enemies, and agreeing to possible change with those former enemies who have had the guts to say "I've had enough". Whatever it is they've had enough of is irrelevant. Wether or not the rest of EVE thinks CA has "lost" the war is irrelevant. Andro is just telling you what is going to happen, for your informative pleasure. That is all.
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Kibachaan
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Posted - 2005.01.07 14:43:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Kibachaan on 07/01/2005 14:48:25
Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3 If the south becomes a war-free zone and everybody is dying of bordome, we could always try to take down the biggest power of them all, Concord. I mean all those alliances and former CA corps down here could easilly make a huge gang, gangs even, and raid Yulay. Dont know how CCP would handle it but they cant really ban the bunch of us. Then we could always just fight each other. Not as enemys but as friends fighting for a title, "Alliance of the month" or something. I dont think this game could ever become boring. If there are so many ppl that want to shoot something then they will find something to shoot at.
Fine point eh? I love seeing so many people saying that the Allied Forces are going to suffer from the loss of our favourite enemy.
It was the INTENTION for CA to eventually die out, be it from external or internal sources.
As quoted above, there is no reason for us to get bored. We miss some CA because of the fun we had, sure! But we sure as hell aren't going to suffer for it.
We will have fun in whatever way we choose.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.01.07 14:50:00 -
[95]
Originally by: thebold
Originally by: Al Haquis Humm are you telling me that MASS (Minestry of amarr secret service ) is taking over "Peace Patrols" of Thukker tribe systems ????
Want an answer from a SE offical on this one.
With love from -MM-
Where the hell is Thukker Tribes? you sure you got the right [MASS] not Critical MASS?
thukker tribe owns Great Wildlands...
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.01.07 14:58:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Hast
Originally by: thebold
Originally by: Al Haquis Humm are you telling me that MASS (Minestry of amarr secret service ) is taking over "Peace Patrols" of Thukker tribe systems ????
Want an answer from a SE offical on this one.
With love from -MM-
Where the hell is Thukker Tribes? you sure you got the right [MASS] not Critical MASS?
thukker tribe owns Great Wildlands...
in that case.. Yea we own GW you want it come get it :)
Intruders are KOS to Curse Space if your not there or planning on moving in.. don't or be killed then you will run to forums and cry I WANT MY MUMMY I GO PLAY WORLD OF WARCRAFT instead. :) ggbye ==============================================
We do the Blowing up thingy |

JoCool
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Posted - 2005.01.07 16:25:00 -
[97]
No smacking bold -.-
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2005.01.07 17:05:00 -
[98]
OMFG! PvP is over! Everyone may leave the game now.

If you think there won't be action in the south you are crazy. There is going to some great small scale stuff that most of SE has never seen before.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |

Al Haquis
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Posted - 2005.01.07 23:54:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Hast
Originally by: thebold
Originally by: Al HaquisHumm are you telling me that MASS (Minestry of amarr secret service ) is taking over "Peace Patrols" of Thukker tribe systems ????
Want an answer from a SE offical on this one.
With love from -MM-
Where the hell is Thukker Tribes? you sure you got the right [MASS] not Critical MASS?
thukker tribe owns Great Wildlands...
in that case.. Yea we own GW you want it come get it :)
Intruders are KOS to Curse Space if your not there or planning on moving in.. don't or be killed then you will run to forums and cry I WANT MY MUMMY I GO PLAY WORLD OF WARCRAFT instead. :) ggbye
So is this the offical SE Responce
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dalman
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Posted - 2005.01.08 00:02:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Al Haquis So is this the offical SE Responce
No, as you can see in the sig it's the official reply from Mr. Grumpy ;)
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

dalman
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Posted - 2005.01.08 00:05:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Sergunja we are defending our space from foreign enslavers. we will never become your mining slaves.

personal remark - if Ronin is still around somewhere playing, I think you can tell him that MASS won't give him the megacyte and zydrine he demanded 19 months ago.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Hast
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Posted - 2005.01.08 00:08:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Al Haquis
So is this the offical SE Responce
for official responses refer to Andromedus, Trigger, Aeryn Sun or any other of the High Command
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Specops
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Posted - 2005.01.08 00:08:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Al Haquis Originally by: Hast
Originally by: thebold
Originally by: Al HaquisHumm are you telling me that MASS (Minestry of amarr secret service ) is taking over "Peace Patrols" of Thukker tribe systems ????
Want an answer from a SE offical on this one.
With love from -MM-
Where the hell is Thukker Tribes? you sure you got the right [MASS] not Critical MASS?
thukker tribe owns Great Wildlands...
in that case.. Yea we own GW you want it come get it :)
Intruders are KOS to Curse Space if your not there or planning on moving in.. don't or be killed then you will run to forums and cry I WANT MY MUMMY I GO PLAY WORLD OF WARCRAFT instead. :) ggbye
So is this the offical SE Responce
See everyone SE already has a potential opponent in this thread. PvP is not dead 
~Specops~ |

Hast
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Posted - 2005.01.08 00:16:00 -
[104]
and me who was looking forward to jumping into my retriever 
oh well, mr grumpy can haul for me another day then
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.01.08 10:47:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Uggs386 on 08/01/2005 10:48:31 Edited by: Uggs386 on 08/01/2005 10:47:07 Claim space all you want but it only belongs to those that can conquer and defend, so please leave the conquering a nd division of curse space on the battle field, what fun is it to use politics to decide it. Im sure that there are many more than just xf se and atuk that would like to expand, npc stations are very nice.
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2005.01.08 18:09:00 -
[106]
It kind of strikes me as odd that an "allied forces" statement is so blatantly covered with a STAIN EMPIRE PRESS RELEASE logo.
Why call it pax stainorium? C'mon guys, Xetic Federation has bled at least as much as you Stainers for this peace..
But if XF is ok with this, I guess that's all that matters, I would be kinda ****ed if I were a XF member and saw this post..  ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2005.01.08 19:43:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
I would be kinda ****ed if I were a XF member and saw this post.. 
question.
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
But if XF is ok with this, I guess that's all that matters,
answer.
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John Farson
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Posted - 2005.01.08 23:12:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr It kind of strikes me as odd that an "allied forces" statement is so blatantly covered with a STAIN EMPIRE PRESS RELEASE logo.
Why call it pax stainorium? C'mon guys, Xetic Federation has bled at least as much as you Stainers for this peace..
But if XF is ok with this, I guess that's all that matters, I would be kinda ****ed if I were a XF member and saw this post.. 
Stain's been fighting Curse since the beginning of time. If anyone deserves it, they do.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.01.09 00:24:00 -
[109]
Edited by: Hast on 09/01/2005 02:01:54 Edited by: Hast on 09/01/2005 00:24:10 We are grateful for the help we got from Xif and atuk in the campaign to take down the curse alliance.
We have nothing but respect for Xif and Atuk and the others that helped.
We realize we didnt do this with some help from them, we did it together with them. They know it aswell as we do that this is a victory of cooperation. They get as much credit for this as we do.
But on the other hand it wasnt just the allied forces that brought down curse, we just helped to push them abit in the right direction 
to end this uncomprehendable rant I just want to say to Waagaa(sp?) that if they feel left out of this press release then it wasnt at all intentional from our side.
Edit: this is not an official post 
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Larno
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Posted - 2005.01.09 14:46:00 -
[110]
Originally by: John Farson
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr It kind of strikes me as odd that an "allied forces" statement is so blatantly covered with a STAIN EMPIRE PRESS RELEASE logo.
Why call it pax stainorium? C'mon guys, Xetic Federation has bled at least as much as you Stainers for this peace..
But if XF is ok with this, I guess that's all that matters, I would be kinda ****ed if I were a XF member and saw this post.. 
Stain's been fighting Curse since the beginning of time. If anyone deserves it, they do.
Dude, you know nothing about this conflict, so stfu.
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SPYDERWOLF
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Posted - 2005.01.09 17:28:00 -
[111]
Edited by: SPYDERWOLF on 09/01/2005 17:28:43 to all those that we engaged in HED-GP and HLW GG your the ones we looked forward to fighting and win or lose it was fun
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