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Xanaan Zenithdul
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Posted - 2010.10.25 18:07:00 -
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It does seem that largest powerblocks now has so much super capital class ships that they are afraid of using them in real super capital fight. Reason is rather simple, by taking out enemy super capitals, enemy wouldn't stand a chance defending their space without their super capital fleet.
That leads into situation wich is called 'MAD'.
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Snowmann
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Posted - 2010.10.25 18:20:00 -
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You mean like the fear many countries had after the Battle of Jutland? The fear of losing so much so quick?
Makes sense. Don't see the issue.
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.10.25 18:53:00 -
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u MAD?

Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Tidanis
Did I just do that Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.10.25 19:04:00 -
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This is not MAD.
This is sparta! -------------------------------------------- Currently Training: Avoiding Homework, Level 4
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offcopy
Caldari OffBeat Creations
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Posted - 2010.10.25 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Tidanis This is not MAD.
This is Eve!
fixed it for you
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000Hunter000
Gallente Industrial Exploits
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Posted - 2010.10.25 19:38:00 -
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So does this mean that ccp needs to put something in the game to make that dreadnoughtfleet (read supercapitals) obsolete? Just like what happened in WW2 when aircraft carriers and long range bombers were introduced?
Mebbe ccp should introduce a new module u can fit on bombers, that launches a very expensive (read 100 mill a piece or something) 1 time missile that does huge damage on (super)caps.
And yes, i was just sprouting brainfarts out loud, i don't expect any of u to take this seriously.  ________________________________________________
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Running missions
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Posted - 2010.10.25 19:47:00 -
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MAD stands for mutual assured destruction, this is not. Mad would mean if one side attacked everyone would lose. when in fact, the miners would win because mineral prices would skyrocket
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Snowmann
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Posted - 2010.10.25 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000 So does this mean that ccp needs to put something in the game to make that dreadnoughtfleet (read supercapitals) obsolete? Just like what happened in WW2 when aircraft carriers and long range bombers were introduced?
Mebbe ccp should introduce a new module u can fit on bombers, that launches a very expensive (read 100 mill a piece or something) 1 time missile that does huge damage on (super)caps.
And yes, i was just sprouting brainfarts out loud, i don't expect any of u to take this seriously. 
A tier II T2 BC called the super stealth bomber that carries the torpedo of doom with a 105m/sec max velocity, 10km explosion radius, and a 5.14m/sec explosion velocity.
Only issue is that the Ragnorak could outrun it while using MWD.
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.10.25 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Snowmann
Originally by: 000Hunter000 So does this mean that ccp needs to put something in the game to make that dreadnoughtfleet (read supercapitals) obsolete? Just like what happened in WW2 when aircraft carriers and long range bombers were introduced?
Mebbe ccp should introduce a new module u can fit on bombers, that launches a very expensive (read 100 mill a piece or something) 1 time missile that does huge damage on (super)caps.
And yes, i was just sprouting brainfarts out loud, i don't expect any of u to take this seriously. 
A tier II T2 BC called the super stealth bomber that carries the torpedo of doom with a 105m/sec max velocity, 10km explosion radius, and a 5.14m/sec explosion velocity.
Only issue is that the Ragnorak could outrun it while using MWD.
Flight time, 4 days.
Let it run.  I like me
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Delaeon
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.25 20:10:00 -
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Quote: ...a 5.14m/sec explosion velocity...
Must have had the same designer as Rockets.
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Ocih
Amarr The Program Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.25 21:02:00 -
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Or they just know the twin sided Super cap and support fleets will crash the node. |

Hellsmoke
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Posted - 2010.10.25 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: offcopy
Originally by: Tidanis This is not MAD.
This is Eve!
fixed it for you
I see what you did there Snipe much?
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Xanaan Zenithdul
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Posted - 2010.10.25 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Running missions MAD stands for mutual assured destruction, this is not. Mad would mean if one side attacked everyone would lose. when in fact, the miners would win because mineral prices would skyrocket
Yeah, well you get the picture. There is IT/NC/Russians having hundreds of supercarriers and total over 100 titans and it seems that they doesn't want to risk them into fight. Instead they are playing the chess, and using them as threat.
So basically, if one side has much more super capital pilots online, then the otherside will engage only with subcapital ships.
I find this situation pretty intresting. Will they ever get into that position where super capital ships are actually deployed in the fleet to fight with other super capital fleet? Ganking few super capitals with fleet of 20 or 40 doesn't count. I mean more even numbers, like 50 super carriers vs 50 super carriers. Is the risk too great?
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Alyth
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.10.25 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Delaeon
Quote: ...a 5.14m/sec explosion velocity...
Must have had the same designer as Rockets.
Titans aren't generally known for their ability to get anywhere in a hurry without a cyno, but I see what you mean :3 boost rockets (more)!
Anyways OP, you did hear how Atlas got trounced by PL's supercap blob right? Something silly like 72 supercaps on grid at once, I wouldn't really call that fear of using them to be brutally honest.
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Dr Karsun
Gallente Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
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Posted - 2010.10.25 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Xanaan Zenithdul
Originally by: Running missions MAD stands for mutual assured destruction, this is not. Mad would mean if one side attacked everyone would lose. when in fact, the miners would win because mineral prices would skyrocket
Yeah, well you get the picture. There is IT/NC/Russians having hundreds of supercarriers and total over 100 titans and it seems that they doesn't want to risk them into fight. Instead they are playing the chess, and using them as threat.
So basically, if one side has much more super capital pilots online, then the otherside will engage only with subcapital ships.
I find this situation pretty intresting. Will they ever get into that position where super capital ships are actually deployed in the fleet to fight with other super capital fleet? Ganking few super capitals with fleet of 20 or 40 doesn't count. I mean more even numbers, like 50 super carriers vs 50 super carriers. Is the risk too great?
I'll ask you another question... Have you ever seen a 50 man BS gang engage another 50 man BS gang of more or less equal power? Especially in the case that with supercaps there is no such thing as tactical advantage of the defending side - they fleet incoming chose the exact spot in space it appears in, the numbers it appears in and gate camping is of no use. The defending side is always at a loss with capital fights with similar numbers, at least that's my opinion.
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Steve Celeste
Overdogs
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Posted - 2010.10.25 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Alyth I wouldn't really call that fear of using them to be brutally honest.
PL didn't have any space to defend at that time.
BA DUM DAM TISH
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Alyth
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.10.25 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Celeste
Originally by: Alyth I wouldn't really call that fear of using them to be brutally honest.
PL didn't have any space to defend at that time.
BA DUM DAM TISH
Duly noted, but not having space and smooshing someones face with more Titans on grid than you could shake an enormous stick at don't have much to do with each other at that point . Anyways PL are like space crazy hobos, they'll give tricks to anyone who pays but when they go after you they that have crazy space hobo strength to scare you off their cardboard boxes.
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Princess Jodi
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.25 21:36:00 -
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The reason for lack of super cap fights has been lag post Dominion. Believe me, we'd be happy to have large cap fights. Its just not been possible post-Dominion.
Recent advances have been made, but its still not back to where it was.
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