EVE Search - What are your expectations from an Tech Level 2 Industrial?

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MatStar	Posted - 2005.01.12 17:27:00 - [1] imo the idea of specfic t2 indys to be smuggler ships isnt very plausable, a reputable ship maker designing a ship spefically to break the law doesnt quite add up. Its like ford making a car that has machine guns and rocket launchers fitted as standard. T2 indys how about we have 2 for each race, one is just increased cargo and durability, the other a speed lower cargo capacity courier. as for the ol millenium falcon its a standard cargo ship modified by some1 to have smuggling bays. However smuggling ships designed by pirate npc corps would be fine and that fits with the RP but alas no pirate npc corp has r&d agents afaik. possibly a smuggling module would be a better idea? Smuggling Mod: -Cargo -60% bulky mod uses complex layers of different materials to "hide" the real cargo -Smuggling bonus gives 50% less chance of customs detecting contraband Smuggling Skill: -5% less chance per lvl of customs detecting contraband feel free to flame/punch/kick me
MatStar Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2005.01.12 17:27:00 - [2] imo the idea of specfic t2 indys to be smuggler ships isnt very plausable, a reputable ship maker designing a ship spefically to break the law doesnt quite add up. Its like ford making a car that has machine guns and rocket launchers fitted as standard. T2 indys how about we have 2 for each race, one is just increased cargo and durability, the other a speed lower cargo capacity courier. as for the ol millenium falcon its a standard cargo ship modified by some1 to have smuggling bays. However smuggling ships designed by pirate npc corps would be fine and that fits with the RP but alas no pirate npc corp has r&d agents afaik. possibly a smuggling module would be a better idea? Smuggling Mod: -Cargo -60% bulky mod uses complex layers of different materials to "hide" the real cargo -Smuggling bonus gives 50% less chance of customs detecting contraband Smuggling Skill: -5% less chance per lvl of customs detecting contraband feel free to flame/punch/kick me
MatStar	Posted - 2005.01.13 05:15:00 - [3] Originally by: Sergeant Spot Originally by: MatStar imo the idea of specfic t2 indys to be smuggler ships isnt very plausable, a reputable ship maker designing a ship spefically to break the law doesnt quite add up. Its like ford making a car that has machine guns and rocket launchers fitted as standard. Actually, if you go back to the 1800s and earlier, some reputable ship builders did build ships for owners who intended to use them to smuggle and otherwise break laws..... and would they get away with it now?
MatStar Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2005.01.13 05:15:00 - [4] Originally by: Sergeant Spot Originally by: MatStar imo the idea of specfic t2 indys to be smuggler ships isnt very plausable, a reputable ship maker designing a ship spefically to break the law doesnt quite add up. Its like ford making a car that has machine guns and rocket launchers fitted as standard. Actually, if you go back to the 1800s and earlier, some reputable ship builders did build ships for owners who intended to use them to smuggle and otherwise break laws..... and would they get away with it now?
MatStar	Posted - 2005.01.14 17:59:00 - [5] Originally by: Matthew Originally by: MatStar imo the idea of specfic t2 indys to be smuggler ships isnt very plausable, a reputable ship maker designing a ship spefically to break the law doesnt quite add up. Its like ford making a car that has machine guns and rocket launchers fitted as standard. Actually, it would be more like ford making a car with secret compartments (assuming your smuggling plan is getting through undetected rather than blowing customs to bits). Originally by: sergeant spot Actually, if you go back to the 1800s and earlier, some reputable ship builders did build ships for owners who intended to use them to smuggle and otherwise break laws..... Now, here we come to a different comparison. Here its important to note that shipbuilders of the 1800s differ from Ford Motor Company. Ford churn out masses of identical products and make money from economies of scale. Shipbuilding in the 1800's was very much a case of using bespoke designs - you ordered the ship, you pretty much had free reign on what you got them to put in it as long as you paid for it and it was physically possible. Kinda like getting some uber-mechanic to build you a custom car. I would argue the custom car model is better than the Ford model for T2 ships - think of Ford churning out the T1 model in bulk, and the rich/skilled getting a custom model from a specialist builder. Originally by: MatStar and would they get away with it now? Building a car with concealed compartments is not illegal. Heck, you could even get it armor plated and it wouldn't be illegal. Just because something can be used to do something illegal, doesn't make that item illegal. Just because the smuggler ship has the capability to carry concealed illegal cargo, does not make the ship itself illegal. Just like the ability for a battleship to blow a customs ship apart doesn't make the battleship illegal. oh ok i can picture the press conference as Lai Dai announce there breakthrough in T2 indys. Lai Dai PR Guy: Hi id like to announce our new ship design its called the smuggler and is specifically designed to transport contraband through our borders and our neighbours borders. Caldari Navy Rep: WTF??????? get the picture?
MatStar Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2005.01.14 17:59:00 - [6] Originally by: Matthew Originally by: MatStar imo the idea of specfic t2 indys to be smuggler ships isnt very plausable, a reputable ship maker designing a ship spefically to break the law doesnt quite add up. Its like ford making a car that has machine guns and rocket launchers fitted as standard. Actually, it would be more like ford making a car with secret compartments (assuming your smuggling plan is getting through undetected rather than blowing customs to bits). Originally by: sergeant spot Actually, if you go back to the 1800s and earlier, some reputable ship builders did build ships for owners who intended to use them to smuggle and otherwise break laws..... Now, here we come to a different comparison. Here its important to note that shipbuilders of the 1800s differ from Ford Motor Company. Ford churn out masses of identical products and make money from economies of scale. Shipbuilding in the 1800's was very much a case of using bespoke designs - you ordered the ship, you pretty much had free reign on what you got them to put in it as long as you paid for it and it was physically possible. Kinda like getting some uber-mechanic to build you a custom car. I would argue the custom car model is better than the Ford model for T2 ships - think of Ford churning out the T1 model in bulk, and the rich/skilled getting a custom model from a specialist builder. Originally by: MatStar and would they get away with it now? Building a car with concealed compartments is not illegal. Heck, you could even get it armor plated and it wouldn't be illegal. Just because something can be used to do something illegal, doesn't make that item illegal. Just because the smuggler ship has the capability to carry concealed illegal cargo, does not make the ship itself illegal. Just like the ability for a battleship to blow a customs ship apart doesn't make the battleship illegal. oh ok i can picture the press conference as Lai Dai announce there breakthrough in T2 indys. Lai Dai PR Guy: Hi id like to announce our new ship design its called the smuggler and is specifically designed to transport contraband through our borders and our neighbours borders. Caldari Navy Rep: WTF??????? get the picture?

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