EVE Search - What are your expectations from an Tech Level 2 Industrial?

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flummox	Posted - 2005.01.06 19:02:00 - [1] not sure what you mean about not having any turret slots. does that mean the current ones will come off? or just no more than the one already on? i'll assume you mean "no more then current" for now. GateCrasher: Reason: equipment needs to get to it's destinatation. a professional hauler is only worth it if he can deliver the stuff. Special Ability: resistence to jamming, scrambling, webbing. not sure how to do this. maybe double or multiply based on skills the effects of onboard ECM and ECCM modules, and reduce the effectiveness of hostile ECM/ECCM/Jamming modules. for instance: * - 50% to warp core stabilization. making a regualar 1 strength WCS into a 1.5. the WCS II's would give a 3 value. * - -25% to hostile ECM modules * - maybe some kind of fitting bonus Skills: Indy 5, electronic warfare 5, maybe tie this in with the BlackOps skillset? Cargo: less than standard indy. it's not how much you bring, it's whether you can make it or not. Speed: Slightly faster (just because indies are slow). i don't think speed would be the focus point of this. sure, some added speed, but nothing crazy. extra slots will allow for users to make a really fast one if they want to. Slots: 3 High slots - 1 turret, 1 missle, 1 blank 7 or 8 Midslots - you have to allow for a ton of midslots to make this an effective ECCM machine or have enought shields and such. 6, 7, or 8 lowslots - a reduced base cargo will offset this becoming a 45,000m3 behemoth. basically, a T2 indy should be able to come close to the regular indy cargo size, but at the cost of using expanders. if that is what someone wants to do with this ship. otherwise, they can properly fit the lowslots with WCS and all the rest. This is just a crazy idea brought on by the greasy tacos i had for lunch... there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on...
flummox	Posted - 2005.01.06 21:47:00 - [2] Originally by: Seraph Demon What do I expect? I would expect industrials to live up to their name, and for dependence on stations to be slowly eliminated from the game (starbases were a good first step in this direction), so on that note: Mobile Factory: Reasoning: build ammo/modules on-the-fly for mobile fleet engagements Special Ability: +1 factory on board per skill level, +20% to cargo size per level Penalties: 100% increase in production time for all items, 15% material inefficiency Skills: Indy 5, Industry 5 Cargo: 1K (quite small; not alot that can be built) Speed: Same-ol' indy speed, but must sit still when factories are running (can you say, easy target?) Slots: Very few slots, maybe 1 high, 1 mid, and 2 low Special Behaviour: The Mobile Factory can be used to build items whose material requirements exceed its cargo size (including ships - see ship-support platform below), by having an industrial ship with the necessary materials sidle up next to it and 'link' cargo-holds. Mobile Refinery: Reasoning: Refining (slowly) on-the-fly to provide rescources to mobile factories, for mobile fleet engagements Special Ability: 18% reduction in refine time for one load per level, 16% reduction in refining inefficiency per level Penalties: Base refining yield is 50% so with the Mobile Refinery skill at lvl5, yield would be 90%, note that the other refining skills do not affect yield Skills: Indy 5, Refinery Efficiency 5 Cargo: Enough to carry one refinery load of any rescource in game Speed: same as above, must sit still when refining Slots: same as above Mobile Ship Support Platform: Reasoning: Allows ships to be repaired (for tritanium cost) and refitted (slowly), to provide greater flexibility for mobile fleet engagements (getting familiar now). Special Ability: 15% reduction in repair and refit times for ships, +1 ship that can be worked on at a time Skills: Indy 5, Mechanic 5 Cargo: 3-4K Speed: same as above, must sit still to allow ships to dock with it Slots: same as above Special Behaviour: The mobile ship support platform can 'link' with the mobile factory to produce ships. For the duration of production one of the support platform's docking slots is taken up. Once the ship is completed, it is automatically assembled and then ejected away from the support platform for anyone to come and pilot. Mobile Strategic Defense Platform: Reasoning: allows a group of ships to establish a temporary dug-in location Special Ability: 10% increase to force-field radius per level, Skills: Indy 5, Shield Management 5 Cargo: 2-3K Speed: quite slow, Slots: same as above Behaviour: The mobile strategic defense platform creates a force field (just like a starbase's force field) after anchoring itself (20 min), with 1-2M hit points, radius about 15km, and racial resistances just like those of the CTs. It does not provide any power or CPU(ie, you can't set up a real starbase with one of these mini CTs). It consumes strontium clathrates, at a rate of about 1 per 5 minutes. Once set up the pilot of the ship can eject, and it will still operate, if the shield is depleted, then it will go offline and unanchor itself so as to be ripe for the picking. Clearly all of these put together create the opportunity for a group of willing pilots to set up a way-station for mining/scouting operations. In concert with the ability for ships to establish direct transfer of materials between them, a production platform could use the materials provided by several industrial ships and the use of a ship-support platform to provide new ships while in deep space. This is what I expect industrial ships to be able to do. i was just coming here to litter this thread with my ideas and saw your post. this is kinda what i was gonna do. make the industrial ship do industrious things. like refining ore and reprocessing stuff. what about making huge modules that would go "inside" of the indy? you could have the refinery, lab, factory. they take 5000m3 or so, that way all of them can hold one. but you can only hold one at a time. these ships would be the bigger versions. like the badger mark II (honestly? we really need more TL1 indies...) or the iteron 4+. and my other idea of the GateCrasher would be made out of the smaller hulls. i know it's not in the format you wanted, but without just making random number up, i really don't have any hard figures for this prototype. there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on...
flummox	Posted - 2005.01.06 21:47:00 - [3] Originally by: Seraph Demon What do I expect? I would expect industrials to live up to their name, and for dependence on stations to be slowly eliminated from the game (starbases were a good first step in this direction), so on that note: Mobile Factory: Reasoning: build ammo/modules on-the-fly for mobile fleet engagements Special Ability: +1 factory on board per skill level, +20% to cargo size per level Penalties: 100% increase in production time for all items, 15% material inefficiency Skills: Indy 5, Industry 5 Cargo: 1K (quite small; not alot that can be built) Speed: Same-ol' indy speed, but must sit still when factories are running (can you say, easy target?) Slots: Very few slots, maybe 1 high, 1 mid, and 2 low Special Behaviour: The Mobile Factory can be used to build items whose material requirements exceed its cargo size (including ships - see ship-support platform below), by having an industrial ship with the necessary materials sidle up next to it and 'link' cargo-holds. Mobile Refinery: Reasoning: Refining (slowly) on-the-fly to provide rescources to mobile factories, for mobile fleet engagements Special Ability: 18% reduction in refine time for one load per level, 16% reduction in refining inefficiency per level Penalties: Base refining yield is 50% so with the Mobile Refinery skill at lvl5, yield would be 90%, note that the other refining skills do not affect yield Skills: Indy 5, Refinery Efficiency 5 Cargo: Enough to carry one refinery load of any rescource in game Speed: same as above, must sit still when refining Slots: same as above Mobile Ship Support Platform: Reasoning: Allows ships to be repaired (for tritanium cost) and refitted (slowly), to provide greater flexibility for mobile fleet engagements (getting familiar now). Special Ability: 15% reduction in repair and refit times for ships, +1 ship that can be worked on at a time Skills: Indy 5, Mechanic 5 Cargo: 3-4K Speed: same as above, must sit still to allow ships to dock with it Slots: same as above Special Behaviour: The mobile ship support platform can 'link' with the mobile factory to produce ships. For the duration of production one of the support platform's docking slots is taken up. Once the ship is completed, it is automatically assembled and then ejected away from the support platform for anyone to come and pilot. Mobile Strategic Defense Platform: Reasoning: allows a group of ships to establish a temporary dug-in location Special Ability: 10% increase to force-field radius per level, Skills: Indy 5, Shield Management 5 Cargo: 2-3K Speed: quite slow, Slots: same as above Behaviour: The mobile strategic defense platform creates a force field (just like a starbase's force field) after anchoring itself (20 min), with 1-2M hit points, radius about 15km, and racial resistances just like those of the CTs. It does not provide any power or CPU(ie, you can't set up a real starbase with one of these mini CTs). It consumes strontium clathrates, at a rate of about 1 per 5 minutes. Once set up the pilot of the ship can eject, and it will still operate, if the shield is depleted, then it will go offline and unanchor itself so as to be ripe for the picking. Clearly all of these put together create the opportunity for a group of willing pilots to set up a way-station for mining/scouting operations. In concert with the ability for ships to establish direct transfer of materials between them, a production platform could use the materials provided by several industrial ships and the use of a ship-support platform to provide new ships while in deep space. This is what I expect industrial ships to be able to do. i was just coming here to litter this thread with my ideas and saw your post. this is kinda what i was gonna do. make the industrial ship do industrious things. like refining ore and reprocessing stuff. what about making huge modules that would go "inside" of the indy? you could have the refinery, lab, factory. they take 5000m3 or so, that way all of them can hold one. but you can only hold one at a time. these ships would be the bigger versions. like the badger mark II (honestly? we really need more TL1 indies...) or the iteron 4+. and my other idea of the GateCrasher would be made out of the smaller hulls. i know it's not in the format you wanted, but without just making random number up, i really don't have any hard figures for this prototype. ... bring me my cheese... i love cheese... "The great state of Vermont will not apologize for its cheese!"
flummox	Posted - 2005.01.25 15:41:00 - [4] Edited by: flummox on 25/01/2005 21:25:40 Edited by: flummox on 25/01/2005 15:44:14 Sleeping Dog - Caldari This is an all out combat indy. that's right. don't wake a Sleeping Dog... 5 hi-slots - 4m/2t 4 mid-slots 3 low-slots CPU: 375 PG: 115 base cargo: 1500m3 drone bay: 2000m3 base speed: 155m3 Shield: 3000 Armor: 1500 Structure: 1750 Scan resolution: on par with cruisers Special Abilities Idiot's Notes: he he... "Cruiser Skill"... lol. oopsie! i meant, indy skill. 8) Cruiser Skill: +5% Velocity and Agility per level; +7.5% Thermal and +10% Kinetic Shield resistances per level TL2 Skill: +10% Scan Resolution; +5% Missle ROF and +10% Max Velocity Ship stuff: max 2 drones usage at a time. there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on...
flummox	Posted - 2005.01.25 15:41:00 - [5] Edited by: flummox on 25/01/2005 21:25:40 Edited by: flummox on 25/01/2005 15:44:14 Sleeping Dog - Caldari This is an all out combat indy. that's right. don't wake a Sleeping Dog... 5 hi-slots - 4m/2t 4 mid-slots 3 low-slots CPU: 375 PG: 115 base cargo: 1500m3 drone bay: 2000m3 base speed: 155m3 Shield: 3000 Armor: 1500 Structure: 1750 Scan resolution: on par with cruisers Special Abilities Idiot's Notes: he he... "Cruiser Skill"... lol. oopsie! i meant, indy skill. 8) Cruiser Skill: +5% Velocity and Agility per level; +7.5% Thermal and +10% Kinetic Shield resistances per level TL2 Skill: +10% Scan Resolution; +5% Missle ROF and +10% Max Velocity Ship stuff: max 2 drones usage at a time. ... bring me my cheese... i love cheese... "The great state of Vermont will not apologize for its cheese!"

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