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![Ge0rge Bush Ge0rge Bush](/images/people/img9.png)
Ge0rge Bush
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Posted - 2005.01.06 20:43:00 -
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I'm not claiming that Xetic caused the CA to shatter .. but mow they are gone, there will be nothing to stop Xetic claiming the whole of that region. After that, I understand that they have to clean the map of an unsightly stain in order to form the uber region and single southern alliance they desire.
The future of alliance warfare will be north and south gentlemen. Xetic will have their southern prize in 3 months according to all estimates.
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![Reverend Necrona Reverend Necrona](/images/people/img8.png)
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2005.01.06 20:50:00 -
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SE / Xetic vs FA war. OH PWETTY PWETTY PWEEEEEEEEEAZE ¼_¼ Reverend Necrona |
![Pylse Pylse](/images/people/img4.png)
Pylse
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Posted - 2005.01.06 21:02:00 -
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If that happens SE will pwn FA =P
Atleast that is what I think, out of experience with fighting both Alliances.
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![Adarian Silverthorn Adarian Silverthorn](/images/people/img10.png)
Adarian Silverthorn
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Posted - 2005.01.06 21:11:00 -
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Don't think the crap you pulled with CFS will work twice. ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
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![John Farson John Farson](/images/people/img7.png)
John Farson
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Posted - 2005.01.06 21:15:00 -
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Edited by: John Farson on 06/01/2005 21:15:30
Originally by: Ge0rge Bush I'm not claiming that Xetic caused the CA to shatter .. but mow they are gone, there will be nothing to stop Xetic claiming the whole of that region. After that, I understand that they have to clean the map of an unsightly stain in order to form the uber region and single southern alliance they desire.
The future of alliance warfare will be north and south gentlemen. Xetic will have their southern prize in 3 months according to all estimates.
It was a challenge for XETIC to maintain their own 5 regions. How will they pull off managing 15, while at the same time putting down the reistance by the Russians in GW and fighting off Stain? Very unrealistic post.
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![Coraltrim Coraltrim](/images/people/img4.png)
Coraltrim
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Posted - 2005.01.06 21:18:00 -
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ok, every1 are claiming curse region now, it's going to end up in a bigger war than it was :/
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![CYVOK CYVOK](/images/people/img9.png)
CYVOK
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Posted - 2005.01.06 21:26:00 -
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Nice try.
SE and XF will not go to war with one another, why would we? We have proven that together we are a much more effectiave force then divided or compeating. Fact is the relation ship that has developed between XF and SE has proven to be mutually benificial in more ways then simple combat.
The next few days/weeks/months will be very interesting.
/beging totally personal predictions based on all current evidance
1) A deal is reached between SE/XF & CA which declares "peace" in the south. Several former CA regions fall under the "political" control of SE/XF.
2) BoB either turns to cleaning out the smaller "alliances" budding at its borders, consolidates its hold on its current space and begins scouting FA in the old CFS areas.
3) CA reforms in the regions of CA not directly controled by SE/XF and begins rebuilding. This is allowd to happen because SE and XF knows they cannot logistically hold the entire area and does not want it to become a pirate haven. FE may even try to move into parts of CA knowing that eventually BoB will attempt to push them out of the north.
4) SE & XF begin a massive build up in preperation for the next "war"
5) BoB gets a good foot hold in PB
6) The new CA breaks the NAP and the southern war starts all over as CA begins a quest to reclaim the "mother land"
7) BoB declares "peace" with FA and taking advantage of the new CA war attacks SE, seeing an opurtunity to criple both XF and SE before they would be come a serious threat.
/end opinion.
Any way this turns out it is sure to be interesting.
-CYVOK-
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![M'buku M'buku](/images/people/img12.png)
M'buku
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Posted - 2005.01.06 22:45:00 -
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Yep some very interesting times ahead. Just to make sure that everybody knows - The Xetic Federation has never been an agressive alliance and has only gone to war when all other routes have failed. This will not change the XF's policy. We will not go to war with anyone unless defending our homelands. Oh yeah, and I agree with Cyvok.
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![Hquesinovium Hquesinovium](/images/people/img7.png)
Hquesinovium
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Posted - 2005.01.07 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ge0rge Bush I'm not claiming that Xetic caused the CA to shatter .. but mow they are gone, there will be nothing to stop Xetic claiming the whole of that region. After that, I understand that they have to clean the map of an unsightly stain in order to form the uber region and single southern alliance they desire.
The future of alliance warfare will be north and south gentlemen. Xetic will have their southern prize in 3 months according to all estimates.
unsightly stain? u best not mean Stain Empire
Quote: I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is the victory over self.
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![Sulten Sulten](/images/people/img7.png)
Sulten
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Posted - 2005.01.07 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ge0rge Bush I'm not claiming that Xetic caused the CA to shatter .. but mow they are gone, there will be nothing to stop Xetic claiming the whole of that region. After that, I understand that they have to clean the map of an unsightly stain in order to form the uber region and single southern alliance they desire.
The future of alliance warfare will be north and south gentlemen. Xetic will have their southern prize in 3 months according to all estimates.
Um.... 1st of all Xetic sucks at PVP. SE would own Xetic, FA would also own Xetic. The only people that do not know how big of a joke xetic are, is Xetic. ---------
Sometimes I win, Sometimes youll win
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![Eldar Curunirr Eldar Curunirr](/images/people/img3.png)
Eldar Curunirr
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Posted - 2005.01.07 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sulten
Originally by: Ge0rge Bush I'm not claiming that Xetic caused the CA to shatter .. but mow they are gone, there will be nothing to stop Xetic claiming the whole of that region. After that, I understand that they have to clean the map of an unsightly stain in order to form the uber region and single southern alliance they desire.
The future of alliance warfare will be north and south gentlemen. Xetic will have their southern prize in 3 months according to all estimates.
Um.... 1st of all Xetic sucks at PVP. SE would own Xetic, FA would also own Xetic. The only people that do not know how big of a joke xetic are, is Xetic.
The only person who doesn't know how much of a tool you are, is you.
Eldar
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![Daakkon Daakkon](/images/people/img14.png)
Daakkon
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Posted - 2005.01.07 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sulten
Originally by: Ge0rge Bush I'm not claiming that Xetic caused the CA to shatter .. but mow they are gone, there will be nothing to stop Xetic claiming the whole of that region. After that, I understand that they have to clean the map of an unsightly stain in order to form the uber region and single southern alliance they desire.
The future of alliance warfare will be north and south gentlemen. Xetic will have their southern prize in 3 months according to all estimates.
Um.... 1st of all Xetic sucks at PVP. SE would own Xetic, FA would also own Xetic. The only people that do not know how big of a joke xetic are, is Xetic.
xetic is better then votf at pvp so whats your point?
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![Maya Rkell Maya Rkell](/images/people/img7.png)
Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.01.07 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: CYVOK 7) BoB declares "peace" with FA and taking advantage of the new CA war attacks SE, seeing an opurtunity to criple both XF and SE before they would be come a serious threat.-CYVOK-
It is madlibs day again?
We've allways been on good terms with SE and XETIC have never ever done anything to us. (well, yet. Don't want these to be famous last words...)
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
![Kaylen Avaar Kaylen Avaar](/images/people/img14.png)
Kaylen Avaar
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Posted - 2005.01.07 12:13:00 -
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The ex-CA corps who will be forming a new alliance in the Great Wildlands area will be friendly to all who are friendly to us - and why should we try to 'reclaim' the old CA territories. That implies that we are still CA in some other guise, which is untrue. We are those corps that have always lived and fought in GW and now we will do it under our own names, rather than under the name of CA. We look forward to good relations with all the alliances in that area and an era of prosperity for our members. - - - I prefer the "reconnaisance by fire" approach to negotiation.
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![Karmic Karmic](/images/people/img2.png)
Karmic
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Posted - 2005.01.07 13:06:00 -
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Edited by: Karmic on 07/01/2005 13:08:35
Originally by: CYVOK Nice try.
SE and XF will not go to war with one another, why would we? We have proven that together we are a much more effectiave force then divided or compeating. Fact is the relation ship that has developed between XF and SE has proven to be mutually benificial in more ways then simple combat.
The next few days/weeks/months will be very interesting.
/beging totally personal predictions based on all current evidance
1) A deal is reached between SE/XF & CA which declares "peace" in the south. Several former CA regions fall under the "political" control of SE/XF.
2) BoB either turns to cleaning out the smaller "alliances" budding at its borders, consolidates its hold on its current space and begins scouting FA in the old CFS areas.
3) CA reforms in the regions of CA not directly controled by SE/XF and begins rebuilding. This is allowd to happen because SE and XF knows they cannot logistically hold the entire area and does not want it to become a pirate haven. FE may even try to move into parts of CA knowing that eventually BoB will attempt to push them out of the north.
4) SE & XF begin a massive build up in preperation for the next "war"
5) BoB gets a good foot hold in PB
6) The new CA breaks the NAP and the southern war starts all over as CA begins a quest to reclaim the "mother land"
7) BoB declares "peace" with FA and taking advantage of the new CA war attacks SE, seeing an opurtunity to criple both XF and SE before they would be come a serious threat.
/end opinion.
Any way this turns out it is sure to be interesting.
-CYVOK-
have you been reading CCP's script again ???
Well I don't care what happens along as I get to shoot stuff along the way. Also remember too much peace is bad for business . - - - - - - - - -
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![Nepereta Nepereta](/images/people/img6.png)
Nepereta
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Posted - 2005.01.07 13:16:00 -
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Edited by: Nepereta on 07/01/2005 13:50:35 FYI: SE , XF and ATUK are SOLID, we share bookmarks, information and trade and no amount of smack talk by someone in none of these groups will make a difference. We are helpful friends at every level from indivdual 'rank and file' pilots up to Allaince diplomats and bosses.
XF have shed loads of Bistot , Arkanor and increasing numbers of refining POS which are opening hitherto untapped resources in Xetic space with additional security due to Ship maintenance arrays stuffed with all the tools a corp needs.
My prediction is XF will take this opportunity of peace to build an Industrial Leviathan that beggars parrallel. The next war will be more effectively won because our reliance on the capturables will decrease and we will be richer.
Already many XF corps ( and soon all) have the refinery POSes in and are making mega bucks because the old haulage supply line problems are removed + the universe is more secure.
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![CYVOK CYVOK](/images/people/img16.png)
CYVOK
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Posted - 2005.01.07 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: CYVOK 7) BoB declares "peace" with FA and taking advantage of the new CA war attacks SE, seeing an opurtunity to criple both XF and SE before they would be come a serious threat.-CYVOK-
It is madlibs day again?
We've allways been on good terms with SE and XETIC have never ever done anything to us. (well, yet. Don't want these to be famous last words...)
Hehe, I have always had a "soft spot" for many of the players and Corps in BoB... *looks at employment history..
I was enguaging in pure speculation.
I know BoB loves a challenge more then simple combat. The way things are going their won't be much of a challenge to BoB besides SE/XF at some point in the future.
All that being said I would hope that BoB and the Southern Alliance remains on the respectiable and good terms we have always been on.
-CYVOK-
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![teh tumblew33d teh tumblew33d](/images/people/img6.png)
teh tumblew33d
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Posted - 2005.01.07 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: M'buku Yep some very interesting times ahead. Just to make sure that everybody knows - The Xetic Federation has never been an agressive alliance and has only gone to war when all other routes have failed. This will not change the XF's policy. We will not go to war with anyone unless defending our homelands. Oh yeah, and I agree with Cyvok.
ahh, so that's why they broke the ceasefire with supremacy and went to the syndicate to fight them! ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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![Mad'Mike Banks Mad'Mike Banks](/images/people/img1.png)
Mad'Mike Banks
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Posted - 2005.01.07 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Reverend Necrona SE / Xetic vs FA war. OH PWETTY PWETTY PWEEEEEEEEEAZE ¼_¼
They'll have to get in the queue behind bob :P
TBH FA are #1 targets of EVE now, give they give me a cap recharge 2 bpo i can stop all this and they can mine in peace
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![OMGWTFHAX OMGWTFHAX](/images/people/img3.png)
OMGWTFHAX
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Posted - 2005.01.07 16:34:00 -
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FA are gonna be killed by bob, SE can take xetic out and wam...its a all bob/ally of bob game, apart from tiny little alliances and F-E |
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![Beautifull Adonis Beautifull Adonis](/images/people/img10.png)
Beautifull Adonis
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Posted - 2005.01.07 19:25:00 -
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XETIC can not claim Curse Regions as this territory is already under control of CFS and the holy spanish inquisition.
The answer is as absurd as the whole topic is just absurd. It looks like a painting from Dali.
Nuf said.
"Your Dual Light Beam Laser I perfectly strikes nad211 [XT], wrecking for 31.6 damage."
"Take your dying with some seriousness, however. Laughing on the way to your execution is not generally understood by less advanced life forms, and they'll call you crazy." -- Messiah's Handbook: Reminders for the Advanced Soul"
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![S3VYN S3VYN](/images/people/img7.png)
S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.07 20:39:00 -
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Bring out the comfy chair! ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
![Einheriar Ulrich Einheriar Ulrich](/images/people/img6.png)
Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2005.01.08 02:39:00 -
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Originally by: Daakkon
Originally by: Sulten
Originally by: Ge0rge Bush I'm not claiming that Xetic caused the CA to shatter .. but mow they are gone, there will be nothing to stop Xetic claiming the whole of that region. After that, I understand that they have to clean the map of an unsightly stain in order to form the uber region and single southern alliance they desire.
The future of alliance warfare will be north and south gentlemen. Xetic will have their southern prize in 3 months according to all estimates.
Um.... 1st of all Xetic sucks at PVP. SE would own Xetic, FA would also own Xetic. The only people that do not know how big of a joke xetic are, is Xetic.
xetic is better then votf at pvp so whats your point?
Daak, go back to kill miners, your really good at it So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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![Darrin Tobruk Darrin Tobruk](/images/people/img4.png)
Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2005.01.08 04:01:00 -
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Isn't it time to recycle this alt? ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif) _______________________________________________ Eris Discordia: On the scale of funny and constructive it scores low, real low. |
![Waagaa Ktlehr Waagaa Ktlehr](/images/people/img10.png)
Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2005.01.08 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: OMGWTFHAX FA are gonna be killed by bob, SE can take xetic out and wam...its a all bob/ally of bob game, apart from tiny little alliances and F-E
SE doesn't have the numbers of PvPers to take out XETIC. They tried once and they were surprised by the amount of XETIC troops being ready to defend their home country.
CA made the same mistake, see what happened to them :)
Don't underestimate the power of XETIC miners and diplomats :) ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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![Tobruk Tobruk](/images/people/img9.png)
Tobruk
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Posted - 2005.01.08 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: Tobruk on 08/01/2005 20:50:10 no offense to xetic but they couldent fight their way out of a wet paper bag. only reason they are there in the first place is because ca allowed them to use their stations before hey had their own. SE will kick the crap out of xetic every time. i dont like se but they are way better than xetic. ----------------------------------------------
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![dalman dalman](/images/people/img16.png)
dalman
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Posted - 2005.01.08 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
Originally by: OMGWTFHAX FA are gonna be killed by bob, SE can take xetic out and wam...its a all bob/ally of bob game, apart from tiny little alliances and F-E
SE doesn't have the numbers of PvPers to take out XETIC. They tried once and they were surprised by the amount of XETIC troops being ready to defend their home country.
CA made the same mistake, see what happened to them :)
Don't underestimate the power of XETIC miners and diplomats :)
To be fair Waagaa, at the time you're speaking about, SE was under heavy pressure with C4 owning stations in the south, daily attacks of CA fleets from Catch... And then Xetic cancelled the NAP.
So we marched into your space with parts of the legions, and it was a blood bath. For a few days we had great success, wrecking up kills of Xetic in your space and also CA in Catch.
We certainly wasn't surprised, but we were impressed of the moral among the 'Xetic masses' and small groups took the fight to us and did fairly well.
The NAP was soon back in place, as we certainly didn't want a long war since we had to focus on the C4 south, and, well, 'Xetic likes NAPs'.
I'd guess we had close to a 10-1 BS kill ratio in that short conflict. But that doesn't matter. Most of your members completely lacked PvP experience and wasn't prepared for it. The important thing is that your members had both the resources to take losses and the right moral. No doubt they would learn alot fast, and during the CA war they've had the opportunity to do so...
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![Waagaa Ktlehr Waagaa Ktlehr](/images/people/img7.png)
Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2005.01.09 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
Originally by: OMGWTFHAX FA are gonna be killed by bob, SE can take xetic out and wam...its a all bob/ally of bob game, apart from tiny little alliances and F-E
SE doesn't have the numbers of PvPers to take out XETIC. They tried once and they were surprised by the amount of XETIC troops being ready to defend their home country.
CA made the same mistake, see what happened to them :)
Don't underestimate the power of XETIC miners and diplomats :)
To be fair Waagaa, at the time you're speaking about, SE was under heavy pressure with C4 owning stations in the south, daily attacks of CA fleets from Catch... And then Xetic cancelled the NAP.
So we marched into your space with parts of the legions, and it was a blood bath. For a few days we had great success, wrecking up kills of Xetic in your space and also CA in Catch.
We certainly wasn't surprised, but we were impressed of the moral among the 'Xetic masses' and small groups took the fight to us and did fairly well.
The NAP was soon back in place, as we certainly didn't want a long war since we had to focus on the C4 south, and, well, 'Xetic likes NAPs'.
I'd guess we had close to a 10-1 BS kill ratio in that short conflict. But that doesn't matter. Most of your members completely lacked PvP experience and wasn't prepared for it. The important thing is that your members had both the resources to take losses and the right moral. No doubt they would learn alot fast, and during the CA war they've had the opportunity to do so...
All true, ofcourse losses on XETIC side were bigger, what else to expect from miners :)
What I meant, and thanks for reinforcing that, is that the numbers and the sheer wealth of the alliance mean that they're not easily conquerable. ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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![Pa1nbringr Pa1nbringr](/images/people/img14.png)
Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2005.01.09 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sulten
Originally by: Ge0rge Bush I'm not claiming that Xetic caused the CA to shatter .. but mow they are gone, there will be nothing to stop Xetic claiming the whole of that region. After that, I understand that they have to clean the map of an unsightly stain in order to form the uber region and single southern alliance they desire.
The future of alliance warfare will be north and south gentlemen. Xetic will have their southern prize in 3 months according to all estimates.
Um.... 1st of all Xetic sucks at PVP. SE would own Xetic, FA would also own Xetic. The only people that do not know how big of a joke xetic are, is Xetic.
omg owned lollolol ----------------------
Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
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![Killer Gandry Killer Gandry](/images/people/img16.png)
Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2005.01.09 05:01:00 -
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Uhm, does this mean I can claim 0.0 space now? ![Embarassed](/images/icon_redface.gif)
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