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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.01.09 05:45:00 -
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Originally by: CYVOK 7) BoB declares "peace" with FA and taking advantage of the new CA war attacks SE, seeing an opurtunity to criple both XF and SE before they would be come a serious threat.
A truly bizarre speculative prediction that one!
Eve Blacklight Style
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OVERCOPES 1
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Posted - 2005.01.09 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Daakkon
Originally by: Sulten
Originally by: Ge0rge Bush I'm not claiming that Xetic caused the CA to shatter .. but mow they are gone, there will be nothing to stop Xetic claiming the whole of that region. After that, I understand that they have to clean the map of an unsightly stain in order to form the uber region and single southern alliance they desire.
The future of alliance warfare will be north and south gentlemen. Xetic will have their southern prize in 3 months according to all estimates.
Um.... 1st of all Xetic sucks at PVP. SE would own Xetic, FA would also own Xetic. The only people that do not know how big of a joke xetic are, is Xetic.
xetic is better then votf at pvp so whats your point?
i vote for daak for village idiot.
i think you will hands down,nub.
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Shai Faetal
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Posted - 2005.01.09 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: Shai Faetal on 09/01/2005 12:45:16 uhm, go invade india they have WOMD
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Zdragva
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Posted - 2005.01.10 11:40:00 -
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as an ex member of NSA id just like to say this to this statement from BOB
"It is madlibs day again?
We've allways been on good terms with SE and XETIC have never ever done anything to us. (well, yet. Don't want these to be famous last words...)"
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :)
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Zdragva
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Posted - 2005.01.10 11:43:00 -
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hey Blacklight dont be a n00b, thats EXACTLY the kind of ploy BOB would jump at. I wouldnt be surprised if BOB itself helped to encourage a CA or ex CA member uprising, regardless of how they 'cussed you bad' in the past. Its pretty simple tbh, if your not with BOB your against them, aint that so dude?
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.01.10 12:14:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 10/01/2005 13:41:59 If BOB attacked SE I'd be surprised. If they attacked any other group I'd not be surprised.
It will be interesting to see where they send their next frig.
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Atrossoe
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Posted - 2005.01.10 13:51:00 -
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What I think made CA fall apart is the fact that everytime a CA member came into SE/Xetic space they either got pushed out or have their nice battleships blown apart. Also I think CA crumbled because it couldn't afford to maintain a fleet and who knows how many POS's..
What we really need to be on the look out for is members of Evolution. They are alt's of some really well known m0o members. I think m0o will make a come back with all this and try and claim CA space for their own.
Quit arguing and start claiming. :)
Atrossoe
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Zdragva
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Posted - 2005.01.10 13:59:00 -
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Well atm there is a vast region of space seperating the two, and after the last few months of 'activities' in all regions of 0.0 its not going to be anyones short term plan for major conflicts i would have thought.
Having said that the south east is ablaze with SE and Xetic POS lights, and BOB and Xetic dont appear to have the same ideals. BOB by its very nature will hunger for conflict and action, and there are very few 'worthy foes' left id have thought.
The entire North and West of Eve is left devestated in the wake of BOBs path, regardless of who did what and who is left etc. BOB have hurt almost everyone in one way or another. The ony real or indeed established entity that appears to remain intact is Fountain, and I know nothing of them, except that BOB did attack them recently, or fought them justly for a worthy cause as Molle no doubt truthfully claims :P
Id be extremelly surprised if the powers that be within BOB havnt come to the same conclusions about the balance of power and distribution of enemies, strengths and riches in the Eve universe as me atm, and id be even more suprised if BOB doesnt already have its claws imbedded in the affairs of the Southeast in some form or another. Indeed those venerable pawns of Evolution, ATUK have already been seen plying their usual pre emptive strategies in and around Curse space (or SE space as it seems to be now). No doubt the fall of Curse will be used in some scheme, maybe the fall of Curse at this exact time isnt ideall to BOBs plans, but maybe it is. I expect to see a flood of pirate corps invade the devestated regions, perhaps to claim, perhaps merely to annoy and disrupt the integration of those regions into Xetic or SE borders. Regardless it will not be BOB space that these numerous and experianced and combat hungry corporations will plunder ;)
Regardless though of the short term outcomes of the recent events, Xetic and SE remain the only major powers apart from BOB in Eve atm. You can argue all you like about this it wont change my view. And it will merely be a matter of time before BOB, in its disjointed unofficial and fragmented glory appears on the doorstep of the last remaining 'superpowers :P' simply because that is what BOB do.
How can it be any other way?
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Loka
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Posted - 2005.01.10 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Atrossoe What I think made CA fall apart is the fact that everytime a CA member came into SE/Xetic space they either got pushed out or have their nice battleships blown apart. Also I think CA crumbled because it couldn't afford to maintain a fleet and who knows how many POS's...
Seems you play different game? The only reason last time SNRA came home from Xetic space after the first day was, because their cargospace was already full and their ammo depleted.
CA fall because intern disputes. Nothing else. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Zdragva
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Posted - 2005.01.10 14:17:00 -
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CA fell because it wasnt good enough to survive.
Simple
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Sparhawk
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Posted - 2005.01.10 16:42:00 -
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"If A is success in life, then A equals x plus y plus z. Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut."
Albert Einstein
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Zdragva
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Posted - 2005.01.10 17:28:00 -
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Sparhawk you explain then why players fail to other players?
"We play the same game, therefore if we lose at any aspect of it, then our conquerors had better plans/tactics/numbers/ships/info/blah/blah/blah than us. Therefore when it came to the crunch, we were not GOOD enough at (all of) EVE to win" Zdragva
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Zdragva
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Posted - 2005.01.10 17:35:00 -
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you could even analyse it logically.
CA (may have) had the better individual combatants CA (may have) had the better group warfare strategies CA (may have) had any number of advantages over their enemies. Yet they lost. Thus their enemies, in all aspects of the gameplay that resulted in CA's demise, were better.
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Nepereta
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Posted - 2005.01.10 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Zdragva you could even analyse it logically.
CA (may have) had the better individual combatants CA (may have) had the better group warfare strategies CA (may have) had any number of advantages over their enemies. Yet they lost. Thus their enemies, in all aspects of the gameplay that resulted in CA's demise, were better.
They may have all of the above and still lose.
Logistics, Fair Government & Low Taxes are 3 things I can think of Xetic possesing before, during and after the war.
I think this helped. Also XF is alot nicer than CA so we where forever claiming the moral high ground.
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Sparhawk
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Posted - 2005.01.10 18:36:00 -
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Happenings You're going to be told lots of things. You get told things every day that don't happen.
It doesn't seem to bother people, they don'tù It's printed in the forums. The EVE community thinks all these things happen. They never happened.
Everyone's so eager to get the story Before in fact the story's there That the EVE Community is constantly being fed Things that haven't happened.
All I can tell you is, It hasn't happened. It's going to happen.
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Zdragva
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Posted - 2005.01.10 20:31:00 -
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So either you dont know, or I think I know but dont.
Or do I not know what im talking about
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Spacellama
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Posted - 2005.01.10 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Nepereta
Originally by: Zdragva you could even analyse it logically.
CA (may have) had the better individual combatants CA (may have) had the better group warfare strategies CA (may have) had any number of advantages over their enemies. Yet they lost. Thus their enemies, in all aspects of the gameplay that resulted in CA's demise, were better.
They may have all of the above and still lose.
Logistics, Fair Government & Low Taxes are 3 things I can think of Xetic possesing before, during and after the war.
I think this helped. Also XF is alot nicer than CA so we where forever claiming the moral high ground.
Just say: In your opinion, etc....you wouldn`t have a clue if CA are nice or not..
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Nepereta
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Posted - 2005.01.11 10:03:00 -
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I just think that XF supported its corps through their troubles whereas I noted a lot of CA corps like EGCO got booted during the conflict.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.01.11 14:22:00 -
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The only alliances that are not conquarable are those with excessive amounts of NPC stations. And even those I'm not toally sure about tbh, it would probably end up in guerilla war.
But as far as regions with just conquerable stations go, they most certainly areconquerable, no matter how rich or large. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Zdragva
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Posted - 2005.01.11 14:27:00 -
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oh right, big alliances just happen to fall, most of the time its because n00bs harrass them and they just cant be bothered fighting. CA used to hand out free tritanium in 1.0, but then Xetic came alone and CA decided that other people would have more use for their homes so they disbanded.
Nah i still reckon that you lose most of the time because your betters beat you.
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Calanen
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Posted - 2005.01.11 14:44:00 -
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There is so much hit prediction about, and has been for ages, on how Xetic gets 'wtfpwned' by everyone, or will be, someday........
And yet, at the end of all the smack, Xetic is still here and the Curse Alliance is not.
And 'Can't fight out of a wet paper bag? Hmmm.' I encourage you to test that theory out the next time you are in Impass.
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Svetlanna
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Posted - 2005.01.11 16:53:00 -
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huh???? tell me, who do I shoot?
 muhahahahaha
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2005.01.12 05:45:00 -
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Originally by: Zdragva you could even analyse it logically.
CA (may have) had the better individual combatants CA (may have) had the better group warfare strategies CA (may have) had any number of advantages over their enemies. Yet they lost. Thus their enemies, in all aspects of the gameplay that resulted in CA's demise, were better.
CA stopped being CA, because, it wasnt fun anymore, had nothing to do with xeitc or any other outside entity, We didnt loose anything we seized to exist due to internal matters.
So climb down from your horse mkay So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2005.01.12 05:48:00 -
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Originally by: Nepereta I just think that XF supported its corps through their troubles whereas I noted a lot of CA corps like EGCO got booted during the conflict.
and again ignorance rears its ugly head, you dont know what your talking about, and therefore presume, conjours up solutions, and even belive you know the story.....
CA's end had nothing to do with Xetic....
It had nothing to do with ATUK.....
It had NOthing to do with SE.....
It had nothing to do with Bob.....
It was internal, and about having fun.
You voltures, just hang around a dying corpse, thinking you brought it down, Sometimes people amazes me with their ignorance So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2005.01.12 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Calanen There is so much hit prediction about, and has been for ages, on how Xetic gets 'wtfpwned' by everyone, or will be, someday........
And yet, at the end of all the smack, Xetic is still here and the Curse Alliance is not.
And 'Can't fight out of a wet paper bag? Hmmm.' I encourage you to test that theory out the next time you are in Impass.
Haa, its so funny, a enemy of yours seizes to exist, and you think your the new owners of the world, go back to mining So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2005.01.12 11:24:00 -
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To all the VOTF/ex-CA upset people. XETIC never claimed to be the PVP numero uno. We don't even claim to be a PVP alliance. We are industrialists, miners and traders first. YOU claimed to be the best out there and reminded everyone each day here and in space.
Thus is feels good to be standing at the end of the day and all the comments illustrating how crap we are, make me smile because I know your bitter.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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DeeCo
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Posted - 2005.01.12 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Primer Xenius your bitter.
Thanks, but I'll have a lager instead 
Click my sig for stats
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Kretchi
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Posted - 2005.01.12 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Primer Xenius To all the VOTF/ex-CA upset people. XETIC never claimed to be the PVP numero uno. We don't even claim to be a PVP alliance. We are industrialists, miners and traders first. YOU claimed to be the best out there and reminded everyone each day here and in space.
Thus is feels good to be standing at the end of the day and all the comments illustrating how crap we are, make me smile because I know your bitter.
Perhaps you should change your title to Official XETIC Village Idiot.
"standing at the end of the day", I think crawling is more appropriate as you were hiding as soon as a hostile got more than ten jumps away.
If this is your version of winning then you are very sad.
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Nepereta
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Posted - 2005.01.12 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Kretchi
Originally by: Primer Xenius To all the VOTF/ex-CA upset people. XETIC never claimed to be the PVP numero uno. We don't even claim to be a PVP alliance. We are industrialists, miners and traders first. YOU claimed to be the best out there and reminded everyone each day here and in space.
Thus is feels good to be standing at the end of the day and all the comments illustrating how crap we are, make me smile because I know your bitter.
Perhaps you should change your title to Official XETIC Village Idiot.
"standing at the end of the day", I think crawling is more appropriate as you were hiding as soon as a hostile got more than ten jumps away.
If this is your version of winning then you are very sad.
CRAWLING!!! how many POS do you own? how many arkanor & bistot fields do you own? how much of the market have you cornered? how big is your army? how much money do you have? in fact who the hell are you?
We are stronger than ever and we are not afraid to fight for our freedom and economic supremacy!
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Jot Hawkes
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Posted - 2005.01.12 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Nepereta
Originally by: Kretchi
Originally by: Primer Xenius To all the VOTF/ex-CA upset people. XETIC never claimed to be the PVP numero uno. We don't even claim to be a PVP alliance. We are industrialists, miners and traders first. YOU claimed to be the best out there and reminded everyone each day here and in space.
Thus is feels good to be standing at the end of the day and all the comments illustrating how crap we are, make me smile because I know your bitter.
Perhaps you should change your title to Official XETIC Village Idiot.
"standing at the end of the day", I think crawling is more appropriate as you were hiding as soon as a hostile got more than ten jumps away.
If this is your version of winning then you are very sad.
CRAWLING!!! how many POS do you own? how many arkanor & bistot fields do you own? how much of the market have you cornered? how big is your army? how much money do you have? in fact who the hell are you?
We are stronger than ever and we are not afraid to fight for our freedom and economic supremacy!
There, there... Don't get your carebear-fluff all ruffled. Go mine Veldspar till you feel the warm & fuzzy carebear feeling again. Apart from surprise. fear, nice uniforms and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, the main weapon of XETIC is the many tons of carebear-fluff we generate every day. In PVP the Fluff Launchers of XETIC fill every cavity in our opponents ships with warm fluff, turning them into peacefull and content miners. 
Seriously, the RUS-corps ALONE will be a challenge for XETIC. Remember how much trouble it was to retake the Immensea stations? Don't skin the bear, before you've killed it! (Especially not the Russian Bear)
/me goes back to carebearish agent-running and MOing in Empire
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