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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2010.10.27 18:53:00 -
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The Fifth Council of Stellar Management recently visited our offices in Reykjavik for a new round of meetings. This is their report.
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ceaon
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Posted - 2010.10.27 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Adida The male thread was locked because the discussion turned into transsexuals and man boobs.
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Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2010.10.27 18:57:00 -
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Normally, I wouldn't IBC, but in this case...
Confessions of a Noob Starship Politician The most expensive free trip to Iceland you'll ever win!
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Virtuozzo
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:03:00 -
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And people say I'm always causing walls of text ....
But serious again, thank you. Time to dig in, but this is really some sweet hard labour visible right there. Appreciated.
≡v≡ once was about internet spaceships. Then those became serious business. Now all that's left, serious business, and spaceships are docked for two years till after the Dust of Incarna. |
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GM Grave
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:05:00 -
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5th!
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Douchie McNitpick
Money Liberation Services Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:05:00 -
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Finally. *puts on his reading glasses*
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:07:00 -
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and stuff. and ice.
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ceaon
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:07:00 -
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http://blog.ccpgames.com/alli/files/2010/08/Ottarsson_GlobalAgileGameDevelopmentNoPassportRequired.pdf on page 27 what software is there
Originally by: CCP Adida The male thread was locked because the discussion turned into transsexuals and man boobs.
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Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: ceaon http://blog.ccpgames.com/alli/files/2010/08/Ottarsson_GlobalAgileGameDevelopmentNoPassportRequired.pdf on page 27 what software is there
That's Hansoft.
Confessions of a Noob Starship Politician The most expensive free trip to Iceland you'll ever win!
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:34:00 -
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this makes me think I'm barking up the wrong tree...
hey CSM, how about a live CSM dev blog ? Give the player base a chance to ask you guys live questions over a podcast or something. Maybe one after each summit meeting so we can ask all the juicy questions we have?
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:34:00 -
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I was intensely interested to see that CCP believe there is too much ISK in EVE.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon hey CSM, how about a live CSM dev blog ? Give the player base a chance to ask you guys live questions over a podcast or something. Maybe one after each summit meeting so we can ask all the juicy questions we have?
As it happens, we are currently discussing the logistics of doing exactly this.
Confessions of a Noob Starship Politician The most expensive free trip to Iceland you'll ever win!
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Myxx
Gallente Risen Angels
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:48:00 -
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I read all of it, including the actual pdf file.
That said, I agree with the emphasis the CSM is putting into fighting micro transactions.
Perhaps they cannot ever put enough into it, but every bit of mentioning just how much we collectively don't like the idea can only help.
Dont do it. --
My opinion is my own and nothing but my own. Before putting words in my mouth, it might help to ask for clarification if you are confused. |
Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:53:00 -
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I can see at least 4 things that an evil, maliciously inclined person could create a huge ~threadnaught~ about, but since I am good and lovely, those nasty people will have to find those and threadnaught about it themselves.
I will say that the very apparent difference in tone and emphasis shows a more constructive and engaged CSM <-> CCP relationship, and I am extremely relieved to see this. I had been worried that CCP would clam up after the aftermath of the last meeting, but instead they have HTFU, and answered our concerns. There are some difficult questions being openly answered there. And if Hilmar is being slightly disingenuous about "liking" having the playerbase call bull****, it's apparent that he recognises that occasionally CCP need it.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Daedalus II
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:56:00 -
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A suggestion as to how to make experienced players more willing to participate in mass tests:
Instead of giving 2 000 000 skill points that may or may not be wasted at the next synchronization, instead give a limited time all lvl 5 skills. Say it's lasting 2-3 days after the event. After that it's changed back to the normal skill levels again. If the player wants to keep it, he has to participate in a new test.
If you want more reports from the tests, make it so you get the 2 000 000 SP if you just participate AND the 2-3 days all lvl 5 skills if you also submit a report.
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Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:57:00 -
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Will comment shortly.
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Hentes Zsemle
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:59:00 -
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Edited by: Hentes Zsemle on 27/10/2010 20:01:16 It looks to me that ccp has hired a PR team a while ago, which have / had a really bad influence on the relationship between the company and the players, and its as if they were starting to realize that your shouldn't listen to ppl who use too much hair products.
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Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy Spreadsheets Online
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Posted - 2010.10.27 20:08:00 -
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Dog and Pony shows are best part of the circus. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe.
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2010.10.27 20:11:00 -
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Plenty of good stuffs to read in the pdf, thumbs up to CSM.
Looks like CCP's finally doing some transparent course correction after that last media debacle that killed a large amount of goodwill from the Eve community. A few thumbs up to CCP, but there's still a lot of ground to cover.
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Mynxee
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Posted - 2010.10.27 20:17:00 -
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I am glad to see folks recognizing that the CSM <--> CCP relationship has evolved in a very positive and productive direction since the June Summit. It is light years ahead of where it was then.
Many thanks to Trebor, who did a wonderful and amazingly speedy job prepping the draft and responding to feedback to produce the devblog and Minutes.
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wizard87
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Posted - 2010.10.27 20:23:00 -
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Interesting, but why do you repeatedly "speak" for the CSM's feelings?
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CCP Xhagen
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Posted - 2010.10.27 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis I can see at least 4 things that an evil, maliciously inclined person could create a huge ~threadnaught~ about, but since I am good and lovely, those nasty people will have to find those and threadnaught about it themselves.
EVE Community, best community!
Originally by: Malcanis
I will say that the very apparent difference in tone and emphasis shows a more constructive and engaged CSM <-> CCP relationship, and I am extremely relieved to see this. I had been worried that CCP would clam up after the aftermath of the last meeting, but instead they have HTFU, and answered our concerns. There are some difficult questions being openly answered there. And if Hilmar is being slightly disingenuous about "liking" having the playerbase call bull****, it's apparent that he recognises that occasionally CCP need it.
I have said it before (perhaps I haven't said it on the EVE forums) and I will say it again to anyone who wants to listen - the CSM was doing its job in June. This is what they are supposed to do.
And I believe I'm not exaggerating in any way when I state that Hilmar was not being disingenuous in any form or fashion. This is what makes him a great CCP CEO. ____________________________ CSM Project Manager
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Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2010.10.27 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: wizard87 Interesting, but why do you repeatedly "speak" for the CSM's feelings?
"The CSM feels" is basically shorthand for "the general consensus of the CSM".
Confessions of a Noob Starship Politician The most expensive free trip to Iceland you'll ever win!
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Spurty
Caldari D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.10.27 20:42:00 -
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CCP Oveur gets my vote on the 'Comedy Timing' routine there.
Fly CSM over to Iceland for a meeting, then escape to the roof top jet over to Shanghai!
NINJA!
Yelp!
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.27 20:57:00 -
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Still reading but I'm really surprised that CCP hasn't considered doing attribute remaps for pure ISK like a good old NPC sold item instead of PLEX. I mean it is a lot of talk of too much ISK in the universe, so this if anything would drain the coffers.
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Virtuozzo
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.10.27 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Xhagen
Originally by: Malcanis I can see at least 4 things that an evil, maliciously inclined person could create a huge ~threadnaught~ about, but since I am good and lovely, those nasty people will have to find those and threadnaught about it themselves.
EVE Community, best community!
Originally by: Malcanis
I will say that the very apparent difference in tone and emphasis shows a more constructive and engaged CSM <-> CCP relationship, and I am extremely relieved to see this. I had been worried that CCP would clam up after the aftermath of the last meeting, but instead they have HTFU, and answered our concerns. There are some difficult questions being openly answered there. And if Hilmar is being slightly disingenuous about "liking" having the playerbase call bull****, it's apparent that he recognises that occasionally CCP need it.
I have said it before (perhaps I haven't said it on the EVE forums) and I will say it again to anyone who wants to listen - the CSM was doing its job in June. This is what they are supposed to do.
And I believe I'm not exaggerating in any way when I state that Hilmar was not being disingenuous in any form or fashion. This is what makes him a great CCP CEO.
There are quite a few points of almost brutal honest on the side of CCP in these minutes, I have to admit. while some may see it as emberassing, I thnk it is healthy.
This does however raise some interesting questions for CCP itself, and its organisation. The next 6 months are going to be both vital and of interest. And a lot of it, will involve thinking outside the sandbox.
≡v≡ once was about internet spaceships. Then those became serious business. Now all that's left, serious business, and spaceships are docked for two years till after the Dust of Incarna. |
ceaon
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Posted - 2010.10.27 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow
Originally by: ceaon http://blog.ccpgames.com/alli/files/2010/08/Ottarsson_GlobalAgileGameDevelopmentNoPassportRequired.pdf on page 27 what software is there
That's Hansoft.
tvm
Originally by: CCP Adida The male thread was locked because the discussion turned into transsexuals and man boobs.
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CCP Xhagen
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Posted - 2010.10.27 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Spurty CCP Oveur gets my vote on the 'Comedy Timing' routine there.
Fly CSM over to Iceland for a meeting, then escape to the roof top jet over to Shanghai!
NINJA!
To be fair the CSM visit was decided after he had been scheduled to be in Shanghai. But CCP Oveur has an uncanny knack of seeing the future... so maybe this is a case of a future-ninja? ____________________________ CSM Project Manager
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Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2010.10.27 21:19:00 -
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Sansha cyno-jamming systems will cause comedy all around. Micro-transactions are becoming an industry wide occurrence and not exactly OMG material. I was hoping to see more about the CSM list and progress being made on it. (Assault Frigates, Destroyers, Faction Warfare, ect.) It was a good read though.
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Exordium8
Minmatar The Deep Space Armada Rising Phoenix Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.27 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: Exordium8 on 27/10/2010 21:24:14 Looks good --------------------------------- Pillage, then burn. Everything is air-droppable at least once. There is no 'overkill.' There is only 'open fire' and 'time to reload.
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