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capntrips
Gallente Chaos' Heart Rough Necks
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Posted - 2010.10.28 18:31:00 -
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I would just like to put this out there as a warning to other large corporations and alliances out there. We have taken a major hit recently because one of our director's accounts was hacked and cleared out. They cleared out at least 5bil from the corp hangar as well as the player's account. We've also had 2 members from the alliance who have been hacked and completely cleared out to the tune of tens of billions.
CCP's reply, after a solid week, was that there was essentially nothing they could do. We were refunded the ISK that the hacker was able to make off the items, instead of the actual value for the items. For instance, he sold a scimitar for 32mil, and instead of being refunded the value of the scimitar, all we got was the 32mil. He also melted down a large quantity of T2 mods and sold the minerals.
I would just like to urge EVERYONE to be VERY careful with usernames and passwords, change them frequently. Because, if you are hacked, CCP really won't be very helpful, you will take a serious loss, and that's the sort of thing that really just ruins the game.
So be safe everyone, and remember, don't count on CCP
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PIMPerian
Amarr In for the Kill Scooty Puff Junior Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.28 18:55:00 -
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If you get hacked, YOU did something wrong. Don't go on whatever webpages, don't let a Keylogger into your System. Don't share your Accounts ( not saying that you are / were but yeah, just saying ).
So why would CCP bother doing a fukcton of work, just because you made a mistake ? Getting hacked is always YOUR fault and not CCPs. I think you can be happy that they reimbursed anything at all.
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Calfis
Amarr Forbidden Labs Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2010.10.28 18:55:00 -
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Has said hacker been banned at least or is this an intended game mechanic as well?
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capntrips
Gallente Chaos' Heart Rough Necks
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Posted - 2010.10.28 19:09:00 -
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For clarification, I did not get hacked. One of our director's did. And yea, chances are there was something he could've done to prevent it. However. He did realize within about 10 minutes that the account had been hacked. The hacker changed not only his password, but also the email associated with the account. So aside from the MAJOR security hole allowing someone to change the account email without some kind of notice or confirmation going to the original email account, there was no way to actually do anything. We spent over an hour just watching this guy sell off all our stuff. I entered a convo with him, he actually had the nerve to ask me to PvP him while he was on the stolen account. All the while the original player is sitting in corp on an alt, watching some mother****er who's stolen his account jabber away in corp chat while clearing out all his assets.
So yea, maybe HE did something wrong, but I still expect CCP to do a '****ton' of work to preserve the integrity of the game. We worked hard for that stuff and it really sucked to see it all go. It sucked even more to have to wait a full week before getting the response telling us that we would not have any assets returned to us.
As for whether he was banned.... no idea. CCP had no idea who hacked the account or how they hacked it. And it took the guy a week to get his toon back. (The hacker actually sold the toon, thankfully CCP was able to reverse that)
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Galthirion
Caldari Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.10.28 19:15:00 -
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hate to tell you this bro sef...but as long as your a paying customer...thats all they want. lol your RL loots. anything else is just well not really woth the attention... Origin. |
Calfis
Amarr Forbidden Labs Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2010.10.28 19:39:00 -
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Well they are in game assets and isk, couldn't CCP just see which character the isk was transfered to?
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RedSplat
Caldari 54th Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry
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Posted - 2010.10.28 20:31:00 -
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Hacked director accounts usually means your director ran off with everything and is lying to you about it.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
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penifSMASH
Caldari ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.28 20:49:00 -
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I see that you've hacked into the Terrible Post Vault and gave us this thread
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Joe Censored
Caldari Unknown-Entity
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Posted - 2010.10.28 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: capntrips We spent over an hour just watching this guy sell off all our stuff. I entered a convo with him, he actually had the nerve to ask me to PvP him while he was on the stolen account. All the while the original player is sitting in corp on an alt, watching some mother****er who's stolen his account jabber away in corp chat while clearing out all his assets.
I'm really starting to like this guy lol! Dude, your buddies who got hacked somehow gave away their username/password. They probably are total idiots and signed up for an Eve related website using the same username/password they use on their account like a total moron, or something equally ******ed. You don't have to change your password often, you don't have to do much at all, just don't give the damn thing away!!! Look at me, not giving away my username/password right now... look still not giving it away...
Personally I think the real problem is you have some people in your corp who aren't very intelligent with how they handle their own passwords, so probably should never be trusted with corp assets ever again. You're buddy is lucky he got anything back at all IMO.
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ScheenK
Gallente INGEN Industries The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2010.10.28 21:15:00 -
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Edited by: ScheenK on 28/10/2010 21:17:38 "he sold a scimitar for 32mil, and instead of being refunded the value of the scimitar, all we got was the 32mil"
lol wtf how is this any problem at all, u lazy **** go buy another scimi and be happy u have some reimbursed isk to do so, u should be happy they reimbursed anything at all like the previous post stated
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Reiisha
Minmatar Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.28 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat Hacked director accounts usually means your director ran off with everything and is lying to you about it.
Very real possibility.
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.28 21:47:00 -
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Can you please give me your username and password so i can check if your account is hacked as well. Nothing in education is so astonishing as the amount of ignorance it accumulates in the form of facts. |
Inbrainsane
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.10.28 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: capntrips I would just like to put this out there as a warning to other large corporations and alliances out there. We have taken a major hit recently because one of our director's accounts was hacked and cleared out. They cleared out at least 5bil from the corp hangar as well as the player's account. We've also had 2 members from the alliance who have been hacked and completely cleared out to the tune of tens of billions.
CCP's reply, after a solid week, was that there was essentially nothing they could do. We were refunded the ISK that the hacker was able to make off the items, instead of the actual value for the items. For instance, he sold a scimitar for 32mil, and instead of being refunded the value of the scimitar, all we got was the 32mil. He also melted down a large quantity of T2 mods and sold the minerals.
I would just like to urge EVERYONE to be VERY careful with usernames and passwords, change them frequently. Because, if you are hacked, CCP really won't be very helpful, you will take a serious loss, and that's the sort of thing that really just ruins the game.
So be safe everyone, and remember, don't count on CCP
Be glad that the hacker did not make terrible posts with the hacked accounts. Oh Wait...
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capntrips
Gallente Chaos' Heart Rough Necks
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Posted - 2010.10.28 22:46:00 -
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Right....
This is actually the first forum post I've ever made, mostly because I know the type of people that read/respond to forum posts....
I've never known anyone in game who's been hacked, and in this past month 3 pilots I fly with have been ripped off bigtime.
I thought it might be a good idea to bring it up on the forums, let people know. The director who was hacked works in IT, he knows how to avoid stupid phishing scams, but clearly he and the rest of my corpies are all just idiots, and it's obviously all our fault.
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lol internets
Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.28 22:51:00 -
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Seeing how the majority of people working in IT are ******edly stupid it would be most obvious to consider it to be true in this case as well.
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Minigin
Caldari eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.10.28 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: lol internets Seeing how the majority of people working in IT are ******edly stupid it would be most obvious to consider it to be true in this case as well.
i appreciate your expert opinion on hacking in this case. ;p . THE ORIGINAL COLOUR POSTER!
Revisal > Nice job trying to troll me but luckily I'm smarter than you. :D |
Nostradamous
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.10.29 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: capntrips But I still expect CCP to do a '****ton' of work to preserve the integrity of the game.
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takedoom
Gallente Public Enemies.
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Posted - 2010.10.29 00:18:00 -
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o/ capntrips
I am sorry about your loss. I agree CCP can not be counted on to restore game items or even fix game bugs. Thank you for your warning, and fly dangerous 07.
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PIMPerian
Amarr In for the Kill Scooty Puff Junior Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.29 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: takedoom o/ capntrips
I am sorry about your loss. I agree CCP can not be counted on to restore game items or even fix game bugs. Thank you for your warning, and fly dangerous 07.
So if you leave your front door open and your house gets emptied you gonna wonder why the insurance isn't gonna pay ?
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Man Barthelme
Gallente The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.10.29 01:26:00 -
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That sucks m8. |
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Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.10.29 03:11:00 -
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capntrips: "Hey guys,heads up..." Trolls: "your head is dumb" capntrips: "yeah... well I'm just saying..." Trolls: "Maybe if you didn't purple the taco you could HTFU!" capntrips: "wha..." Trolls: "Yet more evidence that I is smarterest than everypersons!" capntrips: "yeah... I get it, I just thought I'd te..." Trolls: "PURPLE!!!"
Perfect thread IMHO.
Hope you guys don't have too hard a time getting all your stuff back in order. If it'll make you all feel better, you can blow up a few of my Rifters. --
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Vibora BR
Minmatar Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2010.10.29 04:47:00 -
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Man, first of all, thks for the advise and I had a friend that has been hacked also recently and CCP was also not helpful at all.
Who can assure to me that they are not hacking by use of any CCP security flaw instead of stealing passwords?
BTW, reading this form made easy to remember why I did stop playing this game for a while, so many idiots packed together to play a game where they can be idiots without any kind of filter or lecture.
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Aurora Robotnik
Caldari United Kings R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.10.29 06:18:00 -
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Originally by: capntrips Right....
This is actually the first forum post I've ever made, mostly because I know the type of people that read/respond to forum posts....
I've never known anyone in game who's been hacked, and in this past month 3 pilots I fly with have been ripped off bigtime.
I thought it might be a good idea to bring it up on the forums, let people know. The director who was hacked works in IT, he knows how to avoid stupid phishing scams, but clearly he and the rest of my corpies are all just idiots, and it's obviously all our fault.
Welcome to CAOD :( Perhaps C&P would have been a wiser choice with hindsight. Ignore the trolls, you can just laugh when they get hacked. It doesn't take much to prevent it, but it also doesn't take much to slip up either.
It's pronounced row-bot-nick you silly FC. |
Funky Feeling
Caldari Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.10.29 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: PIMPerian
Originally by: takedoom o/ capntrips
I am sorry about your loss. I agree CCP can not be counted on to restore game items or even fix game bugs. Thank you for your warning, and fly dangerous 07.
So if you leave your front door open and your house gets emptied you gonna wonder why the insurance isn't gonna pay ?
Apparently you know **** all on how home insurance works. maybe one day when you are out on your own and Mommy isn't wiping your ass you will learn.
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Tappits
Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.29 15:16:00 -
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Edited by: Tappits on 29/10/2010 15:18:34
Originally by: capntrips The director who was hacked works in IT
And what? That makes him auto qualified in any and all related disaplins in the technology industry? Some one that works in PC world could say thay work in IT lol.
I work in IT also from time to time on a subcontract bases, and i was also HACK'ed (what your calling hacked anyway) about 2.5 years ago.
Maybe its an IT thing?
There is no one in eve you can trust not even RL m8's so don't try.
infact i bet someones getting hacked right now :)
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The Medusa
Minmatar DarkStar 1 Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.10.29 15:42:00 -
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If CCP now would just let me have another username / password on my forum accounts....
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Xystance
Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.10.29 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: capntrips
So be safe everyone, and remember, don't count on CCP
... aww
Next time invite spies into corp so your stuff can be taken legitimately.
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Xaelix Sativa
Caldari Volatile Nature Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.29 16:45:00 -
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Strong passwords and not following links posted in local ftw.
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Helios Black
Amarr Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.10.29 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Tappits Edited by: Tappits on 29/10/2010 15:18:34
Originally by: capntrips The director who was hacked works in IT
And what? That makes him auto qualified in any and all related disaplins in the technology industry? Some one that works in PC world could say thay work in IT lol.
I work in IT also from time to time on a subcontract bases, and i was also HACK'ed (what your calling hacked anyway) about 2.5 years ago.
Maybe its an IT thing?
There is no one in eve you can trust not even RL m8's so don't try.
infact i bet someones getting hacked right now :)
Learn to spell and properly use the English language before you type next time please.
Originally by: Helicity Boson Maybe you should go play Uno with your mom so you can be "second winner" again.
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: capntrips I would just like to put this out there as a warning to other large corporations and alliances out there. We have taken a major hit recently because one of our director's accounts was hacked and cleared out. They cleared out at least 5bil from the corp hangar as well as the player's account. We've also had 2 members from the alliance who have been hacked and completely cleared out to the tune of tens of billions.
"One of your directors accounts" just took you for all the money you had, and is looking forward to doing it again in the future.
No chance that CCP didn't know where the isk went.
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