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PR0PHETOFDOOM
Caldari
Wolfram Corp
Capital Storm
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Posted - 2010.10.29 15:34:00 -
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Ive commanded fleets of 500+ for weeks and weeks, would you put it on your cv? controling that amount of people is hard making sure nothing happens.
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.10.29 15:35:00 -
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lol 
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Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari
Rancer Defence League
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Posted - 2010.10.29 15:36:00 -
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Edited by: Cat o''Ninetails on 29/10/2010 15:38:24
hi cat here
dont see why not? i put "ceo of rancer defence league" on my cv. it makes for interesting talking points.
also under interests i generally put defending.
also when i get into the csm then that is going on my cv pronto lol
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Culmen
Caldari
Blood Phage Syndicate
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.29 15:37:00 -
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TV Tropes has something called Dammed By Faint Praise
That's what you are doing to yourself by putting it on a CV.
To someone who has no idea what an FC does, putting a game skill on a real world CV conjures up the image of someone desperately searching for stuff to add.
Now, if you knew the guy played EVE, then , and only then, might it be worth noting.
But thats more for an interview, not a CV
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Ultim8Evil
Ministry Of Eternal Disorder
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Posted - 2010.10.29 15:39:00 -
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What if it turned out you'd podded the guy interviewing you?
Is isk for employment considered RMT? 
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PR0PHETOFDOOM
Caldari
Wolfram Corp
Capital Storm
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Posted - 2010.10.29 15:49:00 -
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ok ok what about my alliance leader giving me a reference?
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offcopy
Caldari
OffBeat Creations
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Posted - 2010.10.29 15:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Ultim8Evil
What if it turned out you'd podded the guy interviewing you?
that could be fun
interviewer - yes i know that game i play it whats you ingame name
interviewee - blabla bla
interviewer - your the ****ing guy that poped my hualer with all my in game items
interviewee - well give me a job and it will not hapen again plus i'll give your stuff back
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WMunny
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.10.29 15:54:00 -
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In all seriousness, if anyone came to my (previous) organisation interview citing role-play-game experience as an asset, his feet wouldn't even touch the floor in the way out. It's a sign of spending far too much time in a cosy comfortable life and not enough time living in the real world.
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Culmen
Caldari
Blood Phage Syndicate
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.29 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: PR0PHETOFDOOM
ok ok what about my alliance leader giving me a reference?
See my previous post.
Exception is if your alliance leader works for/owns/manages the company.
and further more why do i even need a sig? |
Dlardrageth
ANZAC ALLIANCE
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.29 16:13:00 -
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Sure do. And don't forget to mention references for your sexual prowess as well there, aka citing GFs/BFs who are willing to act as reference for that. Some people... 
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ChrisIsherwood
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Posted - 2010.10.29 16:15:00 -
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If you were applying for a job where the hiring manager is under 20, then it might be a good idea. but in general if would certainly hurt your employment chances.
Regardless of reality, MMOs have a low reputation in the real world. If the hiring manager doesn't know MMOs, then a google is not going to find much positive. The older and more traditional the hiring manager is, the less they would regard playing video games as appropriate for an employed, stable adult.
Then there is the time issue: do you want an employee showing up late/tired because of a CTA to shot a POS?
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If you were going to list an MMO, then unless you were applying for a position in organized crime or perhaps a law firm, EVE Online would be the last MMO to list. Look at all the things that make EVE a niche game - that the gb2wow crowd list - dark place, scams and betrayals allowed; even promoted in press releases, newcomer unfriendly, ... What job could you be applying for where the salient attributes of EVE would be positively regarded???
Congrats on your accomplishment. Your are correct it is a skill; but whether to put it on a CV is not whether it is a useful skill but whether it will enhance your CV and employment prospects. However, IMO If you would even ask the question, you may wish to apply for positions where a CV is not required.
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Chesty McJubblies
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.10.29 16:20:00 -
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Only really if you don't want to get a job.
Suggestion: Remove the "new topic" button from everywhere apart from the list of topics section within a subforum.
That'd save those with chronic hand/eye coordination some face. |
Jason1138
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Posted - 2010.10.29 16:22:00 -
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be sure to put that you beat Super Mario 3 on there too. i'm sure that will only add to your starting salary
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.10.29 16:22:00 -
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Dude no, just no no no
Quote:
As a side note, i liken capacitor to blood. Without blood, nothing can function in the body. I do NOT like being a race that bleeds quicker than anyone else. yes, i am an alt..Jovial Quote:
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Dagny Bronstein
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Posted - 2010.10.29 16:33:00 -
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Edited by: Dagny Bronstein on 29/10/2010 16:41:43
Admitting to playing a MMORPG will only result in the employer envisioning a computer-addicted nerd with no social skills who will always show up tired/late to work because he was busy doing raids until 3 AM.
Just had a conversation (with some grad students!) today (centered around how to capitalize on "social gaming") and as soon as MMOs were mentioned the "people die of dehydration because they play for days" stories started to pop up instantly.
Similar effect as if you end your resumee with the remark that you're an exceptionally well-versed alcoholic.
Only exception might be companies in the gaming industry...
edit: inb4 "you wouldn't want that job anyways"
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PR0PHETOFDOOM
Caldari
Wolfram Corp
Capital Storm
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Posted - 2010.10.29 16:35:00 -
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So i shouldnt also mention i have every achevement in garrys mod either?
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WMunny
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.10.29 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dagny Bronstein
...will only result in the employer envisioning a computer-addicted nerd with no social skills
Now be honest, that's not far from the truth, except for me of course.
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Aldor
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Posted - 2010.10.29 16:49:00 -
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I guess it would depend on if the ops you FC'd on were successful or not.
Also, if you managed to record it ALA Enders Game style of you barking commands at your wing commanders.
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joomla alacard
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Posted - 2010.10.29 16:50:00 -
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I would see this as a positive thing, as it's about as easy as herding cats. In all reality, the rest of the world won't care.
Seriously though, management is management regardless what job it is the people you're managing are doing. It's about knowing individuals on your team, their strengths, and how best to coordinate them in the various aspects involved with getting "jobs" done. If an example shows this effectively, it should be taken as a good example.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.29 16:56:00 -
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Dunno about FC but putting '******ed carebear' won't do you any good that's for sure...
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Ash Donai
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: PR0PHETOFDOOM
Ive commanded fleets of 500+ for weeks and weeks, would you put it on your cv?
Only if you don't actually want the job you are applying for. Someone who spends extraordinary amounts of time in a video game detached from reality isn't someone I would want to employ. |
Klandi
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:08:00 -
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HOWEVER ......
There are people looking on games (like Eve) for people that have good(exceptional) organisational skills and management is all about getting flunkies to do your bidding. ... so
I'd agree with bringing it up at the interview (if asked) and put it as an interest
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WMunny
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:14:00 -
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It's also true that the US Military do most of their recruitment from the Call of Duty servers.
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Mallikanth
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:20:00 -
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As others have mentioned, I wouldn't put it on my CV but I have mentioned Eve Online under Hobbies and then linked to this IBM report:
http://www.ibm.com/ibm/gio/us/en/gaming.html
The actual report is a PDF linked from the above page which gives a decent overview.
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Ash Donai
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: joomla alacard
Seriously though, management is management regardless what job it is the people you're managing are doing. It's about knowing individuals on your team, their strengths, and how best to coordinate them in the various aspects involved with getting "jobs" done. If an example shows this effectively, it should be taken as a good example.
Actually ..., being the FC doesn't mean anything in terms of organization or leadership. All that means is that you have enough ego to not choke when talking on voice comms to a bunch of people and being full enough of yourself to think that whatever call you make is the right one at the time.
However, the FC has no bearing on the performance of the fleet as a whole, meaning that the FC can't make people do the right thing. He or she doesn't manage the people, the FC merely tells them what to do and they may or may not do it.
It's a common misconception that battles are primarily won by good FCs. Yes, the FC is an important part, as are the pilots themselves and what makes the pilots follow the FC orders is good morale (because the alliance/corp is currently winning), a ship reimbursement program, a common goal, and trust in the FC making good tactical decisions.
If anything the corp leadership is good at management and organizing, the FC is good at quickly procesing tactical information and reacting to it in an appropriate way. What I am getting at is that in order to do that you don't need management skills nor organizational skills, in fact FCs are mostly not what I would call a "people person" or a team player. They are folks who tend to think that they know better (which they often do) but primadonnas don't make good employees unless you need one for ballet. |
WMunny
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:24:00 -
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From that page:
The results are fascinating. Among other things, we learned that the transparent environments created in online games made leadership easier to assume. And that leadership in online games is more temporary and flexible than it is in the business world. And finally, online games give leaders the freedom to fail, and experiment with different approaches and techniques, something that any Fortune 500 company that hopes to innovate needs to understand.
In the real world if a leader fails hundreds or thousands of people lose their jobs.
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:26:00 -
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Edited by: Abdiel Kavash on 29/10/2010 17:27:19
Quite seriously, I put "leadership experience" on mine. Of course, I don't tell anyone that I mean a clan leader / guild leader / CEO in three different games by that 
(eh, not at the same time of course!)
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Mallikanth
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: WMunny
From that page:
The results are fascinating. Among other things, we learned that the transparent environments created in online games made leadership easier to assume. And that leadership in online games is more temporary and flexible than it is in the business world. And finally, online games give leaders the freedom to fail, and experiment with different approaches and techniques, something that any Fortune 500 company that hopes to innovate needs to understand.
In the real world if a leader fails hundreds or thousands of people lose their jobs.
Yes, but what they're saying, I think, Is that kind of mistake has a less important impact and therefore people can afford to take more risks and learn from their mistakes.
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Ejit
Amarr
The Ascension
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Posted - 2010.10.29 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: PR0PHETOFDOOM
Ive commanded fleets of 500+ for weeks and weeks, would you put it on your cv? controling that amount of people is hard making sure nothing happens.
Ironically enough. Being unemployed, living with parents and avoiding direct exposure to sunlight. This is all I have to put on a CV..
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Bacon Slapper
Minmatar
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.10.29 18:09:00 -
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No because you're not actually controlling or commanding anything. All your gay little ass is doing is saying "hei guys today we're going to go to tis place and crush them lol. Your have to lissttenn to mee or i'll call you primary.Teehee i'm so bad ass but srssly guise listen to me and obey my comand at all time and thjen this guys if i dies."
"jump, align warp"
x50
"lol ok guise her we go."
"shoot that guy !! loLZ!"
"grr! gget um!!"
The end.
Moral of the story your the king of a bunch of nerds for an hour roleplaying the worst tour bus driver on the worst tour in history.
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