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WMunny
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:19:00 -
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I'm not new to internet forums but as a newcomer even I was a little shocked at the number of disbelieving, sarcastic, and sometimes downright spiteful comments made on nearly every single thread.
Why so much anger?
It reminds me a little of a scene from the Robbin Williams film: What Dreams May Come, in which the dead people are stuck up to their necks in mud with nothing to do but rant and rave about anything and everything; in short, wallowing in their own muck.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:21:00 -
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u not mad?
*the anger is a lie*
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Khanaris Asgarth
Eternium Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:23:00 -
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Very vocal minority more than anything. The vast majority probably don't even bother to read the forums.
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Ash Donai
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:25:00 -
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 Originally by: WMunny
I'm not new to internet forums but as a newcomer even I was a little shocked at the number of disbelieving, sarcastic, and sometimes downright spiteful comments made on nearly every single thread.
The second part of what you wrote proves that you lied about the first part. Busted! |
Evelgrivion
Ignatium.
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: WMunny
I'm not new to internet forums but as a newcomer even I was a little shocked at the number of disbelieving, sarcastic, and sometimes downright spiteful comments made on nearly every single thread.
Why so much anger?
As a whole, the Eve Online player base is very attached to the game. Things have always been touchy regarding the perceived health, playability and enjoyability of the game. Over the last year, various PR fumbles and poorly implemented features have only created a worse perception of the health of the product.
In other words, people are angry because the game they love isn't getting treated as well as they demand it to be.
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Ultim8Evil
Ministry Of Eternal Disorder
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:28:00 -
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On the other hand, trolling and the emorage it spawns can be quite funny.
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:28:00 -
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Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 29/10/2010 17:33:19
I think our roleplaying friends on the forum are taking it all a bit too seriously and try to be consistently "harsh, cold and hostile" .. 
Originally by: Ash Donai
Originally by: WMunny
I'm not new to internet forums but as a newcomer even I was a little shocked at the number of disbelieving, sarcastic, and sometimes downright spiteful comments made on nearly every single thread.
The second part of what you wrote proves that you lied about the first part. Busted!
I have been posting on the forums of about 5-7 games and I must say EVE's is by far the most hostile and conservative if you have a different opinion. If not, they're actually quite helpful.
Not that I let it stop me, of course ..
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Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see
Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
*the anger is a lie*
But thats only because there is no cake in space
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Mallikanth
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:33:00 -
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Some people like to play "look at me I'm a smart and tough guy" via the forums.
It's proves their e-peen apparently.
The original point in a post or an improvement to the game means nothing to them (and likely nothing ever will). They like to moan to either trick people into their own emo rage and get their rocks off for that, or they are likely very obnoxious people in RL.
But yes, it does seem to be an eve forum "sport".
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:33:00 -
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Because when you have to answer the same question and run over the same old arguments for the umpteenth time because, once again, someone assumes that EVE is just like [insert whatever irrelevant object of comparison here], people tend to get tired and testyà
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
I have been posting on the forums of about 5-7 games and I must say EVE's is by far the most hostile and conservative if you have a different opinion.
You haven't played enough SOE games (or just games without proper PvP).
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
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Ash Donai
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jennifer Starling
I have been posting on the forums of about 5-7 games and I must say EVE's is by far the most hostile and conservative if you have a different opinion.
That's probably because the main purpose of playing those other games isn't to grief other players. EVE is the cesspool of scumbags because here you can freely live out what you'd get punched for in the face IRL. Yeah, sure, there's some carebearing going on in EVE but the majority of players takes joy and pride in ruining someone's day. |
Tathyn
Minmatar
ADS Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:35:00 -
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Because the premise of this game and the underhanded, mean and ruthless things it allows you to do attract a certain type of person, and those persons tend to act out more. I agree with OP that these forums do raise the bar of "mean" to a new level. I think you could post about a sunny day and be called everything but a CCP Dev (there aren't many who are cruel enough to use that insult).
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:38:00 -
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I knew a happy positive person in game once. They were abused until they quit.
There's just no place for that kind of person in the game. The nice people who survive know how to pretend to be hardasses.
My Warmest Regards.
Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Tentacle Monster
Verge Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:38:00 -
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Agreed, don't think it was this much like the European WoW forums a year ago.
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Opertone
Caldari
Metalworks
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:43:00 -
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Dear sir, it is called 'forum warriors'
Some of them feel better when they fight for what's right and make it public, others make amusing remarks and feed on the sarcasm and emotions that forum posts generate.
It is a form of self-entertainment, which can be more intense than intracorporate chatter and more dense than compressed veldspar.
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Akira Kurosaw
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Karak Terrel
Originally by: Chribba
*the anger is a lie*
But thats only because there is no cake in space
this was a triumph, I'm making a note here
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Pod Salesman
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
I knew a happy positive person in game once. They were abused until they quit.
There's just no place for that kind of person in the game. The nice people who survive know how to pretend to be hardasses.
Exactly. There is not enough space in the known universe. You have to move to a wormhole and pray nobody finds you. Then you can be as smiley and happy of a person as you like. Of course, an establishment in a wormhole is ASKING for trouble when someone *does* find you.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ash Donai
That's probably because the main purpose of playing those other games isn't to grief other players.
àand that's why it's probably kinder than most: because if you **** someone off enough, they are in a position to blow you up.
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:47:00 -
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Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 29/10/2010 17:48:51
Originally by: Akira Kurosaw
Originally by: Karak Terrel
Originally by: Chribba
*the anger is a lie*
But thats only because there is no cake in space
this was a triumph, I'm making a note here
This was a triumph.
I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS.
It's hard to overstate my satisfaction.
Aperture Science:
We do what we must because we can.
For the good of all of us
Except the ones who are dead.
(Chorus 1)
But there's no sense crying over every mistake
You just keep on trying till you run out of cake
And the science gets done and you make a neat gun
For the people who are still alive.
I'm not even angry.
I'm being so sincere right now.
Even though you broke my heart and killed me.
And tore me to pieces.
And threw every piece into a fire.
As they burned it hurt because
I was so happy for you.
Now these points of data make a beautiful line
And we're out of beta we're releasing on time.
So I'm GLaD I got burned think of all the things we learned
For the people who are still alive.
Go ahead and leave me.
I think I prefer to stay inside.
Maybe you'll find someone else to help you.
Maybe Black Mesa -
THAT WAS A JOKE. HA HA, FAT CHANCE.
Anyway, this cake is great:
It's so delicious and moist.
Look at me still talking when there's science to do.
When I look out there it makes me GLaD I'm not you.
I've experiments to run there is research to be done
On the people who are still alive
And believe me I am still alive.
I'm doing science and I'm still alive.
I feel FANTASTIC and I'm still alive.
While you're dying I'll be still alive.
And when you're dead I will be still alive.
Still alive
Still alive
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No references left I posted them all!
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For Great Justice!
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:48:00 -
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Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 29/10/2010 17:51:36
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 29/10/2010 17:33:19
I think our roleplaying friends on the forum are taking it all a bit too seriously and try to be consistently "harsh, cold and hostile" ..
Originally by: Ash Donai
Originally by: WMunny
I'm not new to internet forums but as a newcomer even I was a little shocked at the number of disbelieving, sarcastic, and sometimes downright spiteful comments made on nearly every single thread.
The second part of what you wrote proves that you lied about the first part. Busted!
I have been posting on the forums of about 5-7 games and I must say EVE's is by far the most hostile and conservative if you have a different opinion. If not, they're actually quite helpful.
Not that I let it stop me, of course ..
It's largely because of the relaxed moderation and harsh nature of EVE. CCP allows anger and venting on the forums as long as you post something remotely contructive and don't be obscene/very insulting. Same stuff gets moderated pretty fast on many other forums. It also gives trolls and forum *****s more room to work with. In addition to that, to succeed in EVE you have to compete against others, the rules allow lying/scamming, losses will happen and those losses can really hurt. This leads to a pretty confrontational game where people with certain attitude types succeed and it gets reflected on the forums.
The conservative part is propably correct, since we love our game and most of the industry and the players don't. There are simply large amount of players who don't get EVE or don't care if their wishes ruins what EVE is as long as they get their fun. EVE players have a very low tolerance on that crap and are more then happy to express their views on such matters.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
The conservative part is propably correct, since we love our game and most of the industry and the players don't. There are simply large amount of players who don't get EVE or don't care if their wishes ruins what EVE is as long as they get their fun. EVE players have a very low tolerance on that crap and are more then happy express their views on such matters.
I think you just gave some poor nail a pretty nasty headache.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
MailOrder RussianBride
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Mallikanth
Some people like to play "look at me I'm a smart and tough guy" via the forums.
It's proves their e-peen apparently.
The original point in a post or an improvement to the game means nothing to them (and likely nothing ever will). They like to moan to either trick people into their own emo rage and get their rocks off for that, or they are likely very obnoxious people in RL.
But yes, it does seem to be an eve forum "sport".
While still others use the forums to shower in their obvious moral superiority. This is the mooseknuckle variant of the epeen.
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SilverOzymundas
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:53:00 -
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I come from years of EQ2 and the main difference I've noted in the forum use is that here in EVE, it's more common to shoot anger and frustration at other players. There are always posts about how the developers screw up, but here it's okay to tell someone what you think of them without as much moderation. It can be a turn-off for newish players, but as so many EVE players point out, this is a PVP non-optional game so learning to shrug off rude people should be an early and important lesson.
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Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari
Rancer Defence League
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:56:00 -
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hi cat here
i try not to go in for all this ho****about rhetorically asking if ppl are mad and such lol also i try to be nice for the most part 
i think it is generally just a few pirates and internet tough guys or misery guts spoiling this forum for the rest of us tbh lol
will ask my planning advisor about throwing another eve love day to get everyone back on track soon lol \o/
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: WMunny
I'm not new to internet forums but as a newcomer even I was a little shocked at the number of disbelieving, sarcastic, and sometimes downright spiteful comments made on nearly every single thread.
Why so much anger?
It reminds me a little of a scene from the Robbin Williams film: What Dreams May Come, in which the dead people are stuck up to their necks in mud with nothing to do but rant and rave about anything and everything; in short, wallowing in their own muck.
Reminds me of when trolls got lazy and stopping making a respectable effort.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Bacon Slapper
Minmatar
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:59:00 -
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When you spend enought time waiting on things. Like skill training.. the market to sell... your mining lasers to yield...your stuff to build... fleets to form up... jumping through gates. You become very cynacle and bitter about everything because you generally have had enough time to think about what's going to happen so often. That you pretty much know for an absolute certainty. It isn't going to be that great. Probably ppointless.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.10.29 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
The conservative part is propably correct, since we love our game and most of the industry and the players don't. There are simply large amount of players who don't get EVE or don't care if their wishes ruins what EVE is as long as they get their fun. EVE players have a very low tolerance on that crap and are more then happy express their views on such matters.
This, one more Concord should shoot looters wreck and... Gah!
I am always willing to give my two ISK to any question and try to help out new players that don't have experience and old players that don't have the specialization.
I help people who can fly Tengu's learn about Exploration and Lo-Sec PVE while I do it in a Rupture or Cane. I learned it from experienced players who gave me advice. people are always willing to give an opinion if you pose a serious question. Like me if you can deal with my sense of Humour and take it as light hearted(see above).
Ignore trolls and insults, laugh at the comedy and listen to the people who want to help you succeed, don't ignore them get a good back and forth and ask questions. Usually if your serious and polite you get an Answer, it isn't always the one you hope for but now you know.
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I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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K'uata Sayus
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Posted - 2010.10.29 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: WMunny
It reminds me a little of a scene from the Robbin Williams film: What Dreams May Come, in which the dead people are stuck up to their necks in mud with nothing to do but rant and rave about anything and everything; in short, wallowing in their own muck.
That movie was a downer, it creeped me out. The visuals were disturbing, must've cost a mint to produce, another Robin Williams attempt at mass healing of the group psyche.
Think of the Eve forums as another form of PvP, an arena where one can sharpen one's sarcasm skills and revel in the act of being clever.
As Elmer Fudd would say: "Intwanet Spaceships is sewious business."
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Posted - 2010.10.29 20:00:00 -
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A lot of people have the bitter vet syndrome. They are emotionally attached to the game and their corpies and they want to see improvements but so many things are broken or wrong and CCP refuse to solve even the trivially easy problems. I'm not even talking about...complicated...things like AFK cloaking.
For example,
- BPCs vs BPOs. For 5 years CCP said it was impossible to make them visually separable, yet not it's magically done! Bull. ****ing. ****.
- Drones and disconnecting. Every single God forsaken time my connection goes haywire I lose another set of Hammerheads. It would make sense that they return to the drone bay when the ship does an emergency warp and people have been asking for it practically ever since the beginning of EVE. It would be very easy to implement. Yet, CCP has done absolutely bugger all about it. Clearly they ****ing hate every single one of you, especially Gallente players.
- Cyno effects. Is there more than handful of people who actually like the crappy *blop* compared to the massive cyno storms we used to have? I don't care that it's hard to implement, it's your bloody graphics engine. Same goes for engine trails.
- Amarr ships and contracts. "We're sorry, it appears you have used your crystals and we're going to make you fly 50 ****ing jumps to manually trade the ****ing ship because we were too ****ing lazy to add some sort of 'remove ammo' feature. Have a nice day".
- One director disbanding the entire alliance. It's ******ed.
- Nebulae. Yes, space is apparently filled with whipped cream and cotton candy. Everyone want clear black cosmos, but CCP does not give a ****.
- Battle recorder.
- Align to bookmarks. Good thing it only took 6 years.
- Opening cans in POS hangars.
- Drone damage indication in the drone bay.
I could honestly go on for hours.
So many teeny tiny annoyances that would take the God damned janitor half an hour to fix, but no, let's forget about polishing what we have now and come up with more broken **** that we can ignore.
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Akira Kurosaw
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Posted - 2010.10.29 21:02:00 -
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Johnny Dexter would you like some cake?
oh and space was dark once, depressing and dark, so very dark...
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.10.29 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 29/10/2010 21:31:04
Originally by: Akira Kurosaw
oh and space was dark once, depressing and dark, so very dark...
I like dark, and space. Doesn't depress me at all. Many people would probably agree seeing as deep space images are popular desktop backgrounds
It's the roving bands of arbitrarily abusive giggling idiots which i find uncool and heavy, man.
My Warmest Regards.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2010.10.29 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: WMunny
I'm not new to internet forums but as a newcomer even I was a little shocked at the number of disbelieving, sarcastic, and sometimes downright spiteful comments made on nearly every single thread.
Why so much anger?
It reminds me a little of a scene from the Robbin Williams film: What Dreams May Come, in which the dead people are stuck up to their necks in mud with nothing to do but rant and rave about anything and everything; in short, wallowing in their own muck.
1. CCP has the MOST lax forum moderators in the industry. They let more **** slide than any other gaming company when it comes to their forums.
2. EVE is not a nice game with lots of nice people in it.
3. As with all video game forums, 2-5% of the players actually use the forums, and usually are the loudest, and most negative.
4. EVE is not a nice game with lots of nice people in it.
5. EVE is not a nice game with lots of nice people in it.
Originally by: captain foivos
Who would recruit someone named Barakkus?
Wait a minute...
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CCP Lemur
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Posted - 2010.10.29 23:14:00 -
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Edited by: CCP Lemur on 29/10/2010 23:17:04
My contract requires me to be polite but then I get trolled and people scream at me because of things that are broken or not to their liking. Then I don't post any more and cry a little inside. Still love you guys though, since you pay me for the best job in the world and I'll try my best live up to your standards which are really high.
On a serious note: EVE general discussions has not such a good useful/whine/spite/troll post ratio. Try the subforums there are usually helpful people.
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Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari
Rancer Defence League
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Posted - 2010.10.29 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Lemur
Edited by: CCP Lemur on 29/10/2010 23:17:04
My contract requires me to be polite but then I get trolled and people scream at me because of things that are broken or not to their liking. Then I don't post any more and cry a little inside. Still love you guys though, since you pay me for the best job in the world and I'll try my best live up to your standards which are really high.
On a serious note: EVE general discussions has not such a good useful/whine/spite/troll post ratio. Try the subforums there are usually helpful people.
i would bet some isk some of the famous chars on the forum are ccp alts.
a lot of isk lol.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2010.10.29 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
Originally by: CCP Lemur
Edited by: CCP Lemur on 29/10/2010 23:17:04
My contract requires me to be polite but then I get trolled and people scream at me because of things that are broken or not to their liking. Then I don't post any more and cry a little inside. Still love you guys though, since you pay me for the best job in the world and I'll try my best live up to your standards which are really high.
On a serious note: EVE general discussions has not such a good useful/whine/spite/troll post ratio. Try the subforums there are usually helpful people.
i would bet some isk some of the famous chars on the forum are ccp alts.
a lot of isk lol.
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What dev wouldn't want to troll the player base? 
Originally by: captain foivos
Who would recruit someone named Barakkus?
Wait a minute...
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.29 23:22:00 -
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Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 29/10/2010 23:26:17
Eve is a game that by its intrinsic nature attracts and peaks the interest of certain types of personalities, namely sadists and bullies, eager to exert negative influence and power trips on others. Normally they would not be able to act out their behavior in RL or even in other games. Eve becomes a "tool" (not to be confused with game) that can serve them this purpose.
With that said, there are many people that play for the sake of playing and mostly treat everyone with respect and courtesy. You just won't hear from them because unfortunately, the actions of a few jerks overshadow the actions of the many good. But yes, in the end Eve tends to be a safer haven for some of the most undesireables out there.
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captain foivos
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Posted - 2010.10.29 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Lemur
Try the subforums there are usually helpful people.
SHHHH SEKRITZ 
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
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Posted - 2010.10.29 23:29:00 -
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I've dedicated a lot of time to EVE and it bugs me that I care more about the game than CCP seems to. That's why I prolly come off as 'angry' sometimes. I don't want EVE to fail anytime soon. By the time we know for sure whether or not 'EVE is dying', it will already be dead.
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Persona n0ngrata
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Posted - 2010.10.29 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Akira Kurosaw
Johnny Dexter would you like some cake?
Originally by: Karak Terrel
Originally by: Chribba
*the anger is a lie*
But thats only because there is no cake in space
Sorry Johny Dexter but we've just realized why EVE is such an angry place 
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Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.10.29 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
attracts and peaks the interest of
It's always amusing when people use sophisticated terminology they have no idea how to spell properly. Pique is one of them. Et cetera is another (many people will say "eck setra" out loud, or abbreviate it "ect." in writing).
On a somewhat ironic note given the preceding paragraph, the reason there's so much negativity here is that MMO players are notoriously difficult to please... particularly in complex sandbox MMOs, of which EVE is one of the few remaining today. That being said, some of the complaints and negativity are fairly legitimate; while MMO players are notorious for being whiny, MMO developers are similarly notorious for making mistakes or unpopular decisions that promote unrest, too.
Also, free-for-all PvP MMOs with looting always attract Internet trolls. It's basically a law of science.
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2010.10.29 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Khanaris Asgarth
Very vocal minority more than anything. The vast majority probably don't even bother to read the forums.
is mostly this IMHO. angry people post about how angry they are. not-so-angry people just don't post or don't care enough to read forums
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Orange Lagomorph
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
attracts and peaks the interest of
It's always amusing when people use sophisticated terminology they have no idea how to spell properly. Pique is one of them. Et cetera is another (many people will say "eck setra" out loud, or abbreviate it "ect." in writing).
On a somewhat ironic note given the preceding paragraph, the reason there's so much negativity here is that MMO players are notoriously difficult to please... particularly in complex sandbox MMOs, of which EVE is one of the few remaining today. That being said, some of the complaints and negativity are fairly legitimate; while MMO players are notorious for being whiny, MMO developers are similarly notorious for making mistakes or unpopular decisions that promote unrest, too.
Also, free-for-all PvP MMOs with looting always attract Internet trolls. It's basically a law of science.
I especially find it amusing when someone attempts to ridicule another by finding faults in their grammar when they themselves aren't particularly that great at it.
Quote:
Also, free-for-all PvP MMOs with looting always attract Internet trolls.
The word "Internet" should be in lower case.
Good day o/ :)
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Orange Lagomorph
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
attracts and peaks the interest of
It's always amusing when people use sophisticated terminology they have no idea how to spell properly. Pique is one of them. Et cetera is another (many people will say "eck setra" out loud, or abbreviate it "ect." in writing).
No it isn't. They are talking to spastics on a srs business internet spaceships forum, as long as they get their point across it really doesn't matter.
Spelling is irrelevant when the sentiment and context is accurate.
On the other hand, shiptoasting on an alt shows you have something to hide and shows how utterly incompetent you are.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:18:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 30/10/2010 00:21:24
Confirming i have seen the aformentioned poster confuse "There" and "They're" as recently as yesterday.
As for alt posting, you're damn right i have something to hide. Last thing my main needs is the goons or someone hunting him down for things i say.
My Warmest Regards.
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Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:23:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Lady Spank
No it isn't. They are talking to spastics on a srs business internet spaceships forum, as long as they get their point across it really doesn't matter.
It is to me, and that's all that matters (to me)... which is fine, because I don't give a damn what you think.
Originally by: Lady Spank
On the other hand, shiptoasting on an alt shows you have something to hide and shows how utterly incompetent you are.
You say that as though I don't realize I have something to hide. I do: I hide the fact that I'm an arrogant ***hole whose goal is to sabotage and spy on major alliances from my Internet spaceship friends.
It's not incompetence, either, because posting this sort of stuff on my main... well, THAT would be incompetent. But please, carry on. You were simply looking for a way to flame me. Can't blame you for that.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:29:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Lady Spank on 30/10/2010 00:35:43
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
The word "Internet" should be in lower case.
Obviously it is Very Important to them.
Originally by: Orange Lagomorph
Originally by: Lady Spank
On the other hand, shiptoasting on an alt shows you have something to hide and shows how utterly incompetent you are.
You say that as though I don't realize I have something to hide. I do: I hide the fact that I'm an arrogant ***hole whose goal is to sabotage and spy on major alliances from my Internet spaceship friends.
It's not incompetence, either, because posting this sort of stuff on my main... well, THAT would be incompetent. But please, carry on. You were simply looking for a way to flame me. Can't blame you for that.
This has nothing to do with subterfuge so in this instance not posting on your main simply provea what you had to say was horseshi*.
Feel free to get butthurt and defensive anyway
EDIT: oh no I made a typo, obviously that disproves all my statements
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Itllbeoversoon
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:33:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Karak Terrel
Originally by: Chribba
*the anger is a lie*
But thats only because there is no cake in space
in space, noone can hear you cake.
fakeedit: got another one
space is disease and danger, wrapped in silence and lack of cake.
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omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:34:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Orange Lagomorph
LOOK AT ME LOOK HOW ****ING AWESOME AND BADASS I AM **** YOU!!!
lol
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Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:35:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Lady Spank
This has nothing to do with subterfuge so in this instance not posting on your main simply provea what you had to say was horseshi*.
What about the arrogant ***hole part? That alone seems like a perfectly good reason.
Also, I don't think "proof" means what you think it means, unless it means whatever Lady Spank wants it to mean at any given moment.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:40:00 -
[50]
Jealous.
~_~
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Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari
Rancer Defence League
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:43:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Lady Spank
On the other hand, shiptoasting on an alt shows you have something to hide and shows how utterly incompetent you are.
hi spank
honestly quite interested in your summary of your opinion of me lol
i want your honest and unique output, and make it good, i'm waiting on the edge of my seat lol \o/ (if it consists of a few predictiable words i will be sad lol)
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:47:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Lady Spank on 30/10/2010 00:51:28
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
Originally by: Lady Spank
On the other hand, shiptoasting on an alt shows you have something to hide and shows how utterly incompetent you are.
hi spank
honestly quite interested in your summary of your opinion of me lol
i want your honest and unique output, and make it good, i'm waiting on the edge of my seat lol \o/ (if it consists of a few predictiable words i will be sad lol)
x
Hi Cat,
Spank here.
I would have to say that, in your case, you are an entity beyond whoever your main characters are and do not use the persona to simply post negatively. As such you do not qualify as a shiptoasting spastic.
I would gladly buy you a pint in any British pub.
EDIT: Also you have the fortitude to run for CSM and risk what comes with revealing your real name (presuming it IS your real name). Such gumption is respected even if you talk a lot of twaddle.
x
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Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari
Rancer Defence League
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:50:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Lady Spank
Hi Cat,
Spank here.
I would have to say that, in your case, you are an entity beyond whoever your main characters are and do not use the persona to simply post negatively. As such you do not qualify as a shiptoasting spastic.
I would gladly buy you a pint in any British pub.
x
sweet i never expected that, id buy you a pint back, and hopefully we could repeat the cycle until suitably refreshed lol
x
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:50:00 -
[54]
Hi Pr1ncess Alia here
stfu op noob.
adapt or die.
X===D
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:52:00 -
[55]
Sounds sweet.
As long as you aren't looking for me to put out sure 
I'll be wearing the red carnation in Leeds at 08:00 tomorrow.
~_~
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Ultim8Evil
Ministry Of Eternal Disorder
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:57:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
Originally by: Lady Spank
Hi Cat,
Spank here.
I would have to say that, in your case, you are an entity beyond whoever your main characters are and do not use the persona to simply post negatively. As such you do not qualify as a shiptoasting spastic.
I would gladly buy you a pint in any British pub.
x
sweet i never expected that, id buy you a pint back, and hopefully we could repeat the cycle until suitably refreshed lol
x
I run my own pub. Feel free to buy eachother pints in my pub 
úúúúúúúúúúúú
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Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari
Rancer Defence League
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Posted - 2010.10.30 01:01:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Lady Spank
Sounds sweet.
As long as you aren't looking for me to put out sure
I'll be wearing the red carnation in Leeds at 08:00 tomorrow.
well i cant make that but if you ever need to return a norwegion parrot, i'm in the first town to go to lol 
seriously, if you ever in the east i'd be happy to accept a pint
x
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Helmh0ltz
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Posted - 2010.10.30 01:05:00 -
[58]
I don't know what to tell you. There is a pretty standard amount of rage in these forums, maybe a little more because of griefers. Generally speaking though, EVE-O forums are some of the more helpful and non-elitist forums I've been in. City of heroes community is pretty much the bomb though. They are almost all extremely helpful and nice. It's a really easy game but the people are super helpful and nice both on the forums and in-game. Maybe it's just because the game is about superheroes/ At any rate, that's one of the biggest draws for that game to me.
EVE-O forums are pretty intense on the rage, but Guild Wars Wiki/PvXWiki/GWG forums tops EVE by far, in the sheer amount of rage and elitism. The community there is absolutely vicious, I think they made developers actually cry sometimes. Then again, the developers weren't nearly as involved as they are in EVE so maybe some of the rage was justified. But oh man, the RAGE.
Plus, the community there was so elitist it wasn't even funny. The general population in-game was extremely elitist as well, which is unique. You would expect the people on the boards/wiki to be elitist maybe but not the general population. Making the slightest mistake would get you kicked from teams/guilds, especially in PvP. Most PUGs in Guild Wars PvP had higher requirements than even the most elite corps in EVE.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.10.30 01:16:00 -
[59]
where is pub
~_~
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Ultim8Evil
Ministry Of Eternal Disorder
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Posted - 2010.10.30 01:51:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Lady Spank
where is pub
Leicestershire
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.10.30 01:51:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
The conservative part is propably correct, since we love our game and most of the industry and the players don't. There are simply large amount of players who don't get EVE or don't care if their wishes ruins what EVE is as long as they get their fun. EVE players have a very low tolerance on that crap and are more then happy express their views on such matters.
I think you just gave some poor nail a pretty nasty headache.
poor nail
but yes, one can say that this is simply "overbearing love".
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Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.10.30 01:58:00 -
[62]
If you pay for your accounts with ISK, be glad for all those thousands of people who don't "get" EVE.
The EVE-getting master race needs non-EVE-getting peasants for subscription fee displacement. If everyone "got" EVE, man, PLEX would be incredibly expensive.
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Acer Lorenz
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Posted - 2010.10.30 02:21:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Orange Lagomorph
If you pay for your accounts with ISK, be glad for all those thousands of people who don't "get" EVE.
The EVE-getting master race needs non-EVE-getting peasants for subscription fee displacement. If everyone "got" EVE, man, PLEX would be incredibly expensive.
Excuse me, but what does paying/not paying a monthly fee have to do with getting/not getting Eve?
Some players can afford to spend hours playing a game. Others can't. Quite frankly, the one that doesn't seem to "get Eve" is you.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.10.30 02:29:00 -
[64]
The simplest way to pay for eve is to earn enough passively to buy plex each month.
I earn enough to supply my multiple accounts and currently that equates to 2 hours a month effort to run 7 accounts. As far as I see it this is reasonable.
Unlike some people who like to smack on the forums about their wealth, aside from some unusually high hauls, this is sufficient to keep my accounts active and allow me to focus on pew pew.
If I cared a fig for more isk than needed then stepping up my efforts twofold would probably see me with far more money than I knew what to do with.
Then again I prefer to resolve my differences personally 
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.10.30 02:42:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Acer Lorenz
Excuse me, but what does paying/not paying a monthly fee have to do with getting/not getting Eve?
Some players can afford to spend hours playing a game. Others can't. Quite frankly, the one that doesn't seem to "get Eve" is you.
If you got it you wouldnt have to play real money or grind anything to run your account/s.
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Acer Lorenz
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Posted - 2010.10.30 02:52:00 -
[66]
I actually happen to buy my GTCs. But in no way do I feel superior to other players because of it. The problem is this air of superiority that certain players have. It isn't that some people don't "get Eve". It's that some of you are so full of it that you manage to trick yourselves into believing you're somehow better than others, when you really aren't. At least, not because of this point.
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Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2010.10.30 03:15:00 -
[67]
Originally by: CCP Lemur
Edited by: CCP Lemur on 29/10/2010 23:17:04
My contract requires me to be polite but then I get trolled and people scream at me because of things that are broken or not to their liking. Then I don't post any more and cry a little inside. Still love you guys though, since you pay me for the best job in the world and I'll try my best live up to your standards which are really high.
On a serious note: EVE general discussions has not such a good useful/whine/spite/troll post ratio. Try the subforums there are usually helpful people.
Try CAOD!
Originally by: Dianabolic
Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL. |
mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
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Posted - 2010.10.30 03:22:00 -
[68]
Because we care.
We wouldn't have an active account here if we didn't love the game.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.10.30 03:58:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 30/10/2010 03:59:57
Originally by: WMunny
Why so much anger?
Welcome to Eve Forums. Put on your flame suit and jump in, nothing to fear in here. Ignore the trolls and the chest thumping clowns, or wind them up like a cheap watch.
The Real Space Initiative - V6 (Forum Link)
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Aera Aiana
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.10.30 04:49:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Tippia
Because when you have to answer the same question and run over the same old arguments for the umpteenth time because, once again, someone assumes that EVE is just like [insert whatever irrelevant object of comparison here], people tend to get tired and testyà
So don't. It's not like you had to fulfill a posting quota.
Originally by: Tippia
You haven't played enough SOE games (or just games without proper PvP).
It's your own fault if you bother with any of their games (well, except for PS 2 should they really make it)
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
The conservative part is propably correct, since we love our game and most of the industry and the players don't. There are simply large amount of players who don't get EVE or don't care if their wishes ruins what EVE is as long as they get their fun. EVE players have a very low tolerance on that crap and are more then happy to express their views on such matters.
If it were only that, but more often than not, ideas get beaten down just because they are "not important enough" but somebody else's pet-peeve obviously is (i.e. lag in 0 is a popular "reason" to crap in somebody else's idea thread). Imo, those kinds of post should be moderated, especially since the ideas forum is supposed to be constructive only (as per forum sticky).
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
hi cat here
^- pretty much the only readable troll on these forums.
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joomla alacard
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Posted - 2010.10.30 05:17:00 -
[71]
Edited by: joomla alacard on 30/10/2010 05:19:17
Originally by: Lady Spank
The simplest way to pay for eve is to earn enough passively to buy plex each month.
I earn enough to supply my multiple accounts and currently that equates to 2 hours a month effort to run 7 accounts. As far as I see it this is reasonable.
Unlike some people who like to smack on the forums about their wealth, aside from some unusually high hauls, this is sufficient to keep my accounts active and allow me to focus on pew pew.
If I cared a fig for more isk than needed then stepping up my efforts twofold would probably see me with far more money than I knew what to do with.
Then again I prefer to resolve my differences personally
That's awesome. I had pipe dreams of supporting my account with isk/plex, but not only am I too much of a pack rat (i tend to just keep faction drops 'cause they're neat), but I don't have enough time to do what's required to make isk hand over fist any other way I know of.
Originally by: Tippia
You haven't played enough SOE games (or just games without proper PvP).
I immediately thought Sisters of EVE.
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.10.30 11:39:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Welcome to Eve Forums. Put on your flame suit and jump in, nothing to fear in here. Ignore the trolls and the chest thumping clowns, or wind them up like a cheap watch.
That's a good way to describe it, it never stops to amaze me what kind of people are attracted to the game/forum. I wonder if that is what CCP envisaged in the first place.
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Rakrist
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.30 13:47:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Rakrist on 30/10/2010 13:50:23
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
I like dark, and space. Doesn't depress me at all. Many people would probably agree seeing as deep space images are popular desktop backgrounds
Artificially colourized space images are popular desktop backgrounds. Space doesn't actually look like that.
The real reason CCP won't change how Eve is covered with nebulae is because changes in camera perspective would be extremely disorientating with a monocromatic backdrop. It's pretty difficult to find a single unbracketed object as is, even with the overlay turned on, and for me often requires waving the camera around aimlessly. Turning the camera quickly and precisely so as to direct your ship in a specific direction is even more difficult.
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Cailais
Amarr
Atomic Heroes
The G0dfathers
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Posted - 2010.10.30 14:02:00 -
[74]
Eve is full of predatory types, showing any kind of weakness (which in this case includes being nice, trusting others etc) singles you out as a potential victim. Hence why a lot of posters puff up their chests and try and be as spiteful and negative as possible - its insecurity really.
C.
the hydrostatic capsule blog
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Hauling Hal
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Posted - 2010.10.30 15:48:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Brian Ballsack
Originally by: Acer Lorenz
Excuse me, but what does paying/not paying a monthly fee have to do with getting/not getting Eve?
Some players can afford to spend hours playing a game. Others can't. Quite frankly, the one that doesn't seem to "get Eve" is you.
If you got it you wouldnt have to play real money or grind anything to run your account/s.
I make ISK to play Eve, but it doesn't mean I have to play Eve to make ISK.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2010.10.30 16:04:00 -
[76]
Originally by: CCP Lemur
On a serious note: EVE general discussions has not such a good useful/whine/spite/troll post ratio. Try the subforums there are usually helpful people.
Yep, yep. Try CAOD
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.30 17:14:00 -
[77]
Originally by: CCP Lemur
Edited by: CCP Lemur on 29/10/2010 23:17:04
My contract requires me to be polite but then I get trolled and people scream at me because of things that are broken or not to their liking. Then I don't post any more and cry a little inside. Still love you guys though, since you pay me for the best job in the world and I'll try my best live up to your standards which are really high.
On a serious note: EVE general discussions has not such a good useful/whine/spite/troll post ratio. Try the subforums there are usually helpful people.
Trolling devs best devs, no reason to be polite. 
You guys shouldn't be afraid of telling people to HTFU some times. We need it.
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.10.30 17:25:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Illwill Bill
You guys shouldn't be afraid of telling people to HTFU some times. We need it.
The game is for ages 13 and up. They're probably afraid of child abuse accusations.
My Warmest Regards.
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Teinyhr
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2010.10.30 17:38:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Illwill Bill
You guys shouldn't be afraid of telling people to HTFU some times. We need it.
...Agreed to an extent but then there's the guys who get a hissyfit and go post on digg, massively or whathaveyou that CCP is full of pricks that only **** over their fans (when in truth CCP is IMHO amazingly lenient and patient on all the **** they get from players on the forums).
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Selinate
Amarr
Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.10.30 17:57:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Illwill Bill
Trolling devs best devs, no reason to be polite.
You guys shouldn't be afraid of telling people to HTFU some times. We need it.
Because the best way to market a product to those who don't like the product is by essentially telling them to get over it or don't buy their product...
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.10.30 18:05:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Johnny Dexter
A lot of people have the bitter vet syndrome. They are emotionally attached to the game and their corpies and they want to see improvements but so many things are broken or wrong and CCP refuse to solve even the trivially easy problems. I'm not even talking about...complicated...things like AFK cloaking.
For example,
- BPCs vs BPOs. For 5 years CCP said it was impossible to make them visually separable, yet not it's magically done! Bull. ****ing. ****.
- Drones and disconnecting. Every single God forsaken time my connection goes haywire I lose another set of Hammerheads. It would make sense that they return to the drone bay when the ship does an emergency warp and people have been asking for it practically ever since the beginning of EVE. It would be very easy to implement. Yet, CCP has done absolutely bugger all about it. Clearly they ****ing hate every single one of you, especially Gallente players.
- Cyno effects. Is there more than handful of people who actually like the crappy *blop* compared to the massive cyno storms we used to have? I don't care that it's hard to implement, it's your bloody graphics engine. Same goes for engine trails.
- Amarr ships and contracts. "We're sorry, it appears you have used your crystals and we're going to make you fly 50 ****ing jumps to manually trade the ****ing ship because we were too ****ing lazy to add some sort of 'remove ammo' feature. Have a nice day".
- One director disbanding the entire alliance. It's ******ed.
- Nebulae. Yes, space is apparently filled with whipped cream and cotton candy. Everyone want clear black cosmos, but CCP does not give a ****.
- Battle recorder.
- Align to bookmarks. Good thing it only took 6 years.
- Opening cans in POS hangars.
- Drone damage indication in the drone bay.
I could honestly go on for hours.
So many teeny tiny annoyances that would take the God damned janitor half an hour to fix, but no, let's forget about polishing what we have now and come up with more broken **** that we can ignore.
Q F T
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.10.30 18:15:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Selinate
Originally by: Illwill Bill
Trolling devs best devs, no reason to be polite.
You guys shouldn't be afraid of telling people to HTFU some times. We need it.
Because the best way to market a product to those who don't like the product is by essentially telling them to get over it or don't buy their product...
More accurately its a case of "If you don't like it, GTFO". A sentiment I approve of.
~_~
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Selinate
Amarr
Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.10.30 18:36:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Zeke Mobius
Originally by: Johnny Dexter
A lot of people have the bitter vet syndrome. They are emotionally attached to the game and their corpies and they want to see improvements but so many things are broken or wrong and CCP refuse to solve even the trivially easy problems. I'm not even talking about...complicated...things like AFK cloaking.
For example,
- BPCs vs BPOs. For 5 years CCP said it was impossible to make them visually separable, yet not it's magically done! Bull. ****ing. ****.
- Drones and disconnecting. Every single God forsaken time my connection goes haywire I lose another set of Hammerheads. It would make sense that they return to the drone bay when the ship does an emergency warp and people have been asking for it practically ever since the beginning of EVE. It would be very easy to implement. Yet, CCP has done absolutely bugger all about it. Clearly they ****ing hate every single one of you, especially Gallente players.
- Cyno effects. Is there more than handful of people who actually like the crappy *blop* compared to the massive cyno storms we used to have? I don't care that it's hard to implement, it's your bloody graphics engine. Same goes for engine trails.
- Amarr ships and contracts. "We're sorry, it appears you have used your crystals and we're going to make you fly 50 ****ing jumps to manually trade the ****ing ship because we were too ****ing lazy to add some sort of 'remove ammo' feature. Have a nice day".
- One director disbanding the entire alliance. It's ******ed.
- Nebulae. Yes, space is apparently filled with whipped cream and cotton candy. Everyone want clear black cosmos, but CCP does not give a ****.
- Battle recorder.
- Align to bookmarks. Good thing it only took 6 years.
- Opening cans in POS hangars.
- Drone damage indication in the drone bay.
I could honestly go on for hours.
So many teeny tiny annoyances that would take the God damned janitor half an hour to fix, but no, let's forget about polishing what we have now and come up with more broken **** that we can ignore.
Q F T
2x QFT
Also, thank you for your input, lady spank, A.K.A. negative nancy of the Eve forums :P
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000Hunter000
Gallente
Industrial Exploits
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Posted - 2010.10.30 18:37:00 -
[84]
Cuz Eve is a cold, dark and harsh place... it was like that when i started and... well nothing has changed really, mebbe it has gotten colder and harsher even... Not that that is a bad thing.
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Atius Tirawa
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.10.30 23:55:00 -
[85]
Its dissapointment really, and betrayed expectation, and now the sense that EvE is just the launching pad for the WoD game which is taking more and more of their development time and effort. . . after 7 or so years, many promises of what CCP said they would do and would not do - you just come to distrust the company.
Recently, the direction the game is taking towards MT is worried a lot of players, the general carebeardization of the game, the very poor implimentation of new content, the inability to fix old problems. . . the list sort of goes on. And after a few years, some of you may come to realize these things, some of you will not be here, and some of you never cared. The loss of eve's core playerbase should be a cause for concern though, its generally the fist sign of a failing game. But that may take time yet.
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