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Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers Moar Tears
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Posted - 2012.08.07 05:45:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:I like how Pinky says that logoffskis aren't illegal because people she knows use the tactic without repercussions...
... but then a couple of posts later proceeds to explain why they aren't being banned, and the reason is because it's hard to police, not because it's actually legal.
Don't you ever change Pinky. Not never.
It was a totally different response to someone asking why its hard to police. And regarding asking the legality, these are people who are constantly in contact with the GMs because they get petitioned constantly and go out of their way to make sure what they're doing is legal. You are bad at reading and an even worse troll. The point still remains that making it an exploit to connect to the game is absolutely absurd. Write a petition asking a GM if log-on traps are legal and I guarantee they'll say yes.
You've been repeatedly asked to present proof that logging into the game can be considered an exploit in certain cases and just skirt around the question.
The moar you cry the less you pee |

Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers Moar Tears
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Posted - 2012.08.07 05:52:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote:Xuixien wrote:I like how Pinky says that logoffskis aren't illegal because people she knows use the tactic without repercussions...
... but then a couple of posts later proceeds to explain why they aren't being banned, and the reason is because it's hard to police, not because it's actually legal.
Don't you ever change Pinky. Not never. It was a totally different response to someone asking why its hard to police. And regarding asking the legality, these are people who are constantly in contact with the GMs because they get petitioned constantly and go out of their way to make sure what they're doing is legal. You are bad at reading and an even worse troll. By the way, protip: part of trolling is not openly admitting that you're a troll. The point still remains that making it an exploit to connect to the game is absolutely absurd. Write a petition asking a GM if log-on traps are legal and I guarantee they'll say yes. You've been repeatedly asked to present proof that logging into the game can be considered an exploit in certain cases and just skirt around the question.
The moar you cry the less you pee |

Gorn Arming
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.07 14:26:00 -
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The logoff trap is legal and will remain so until it ceases to be the only way to kill ratting bots. |

Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2012.08.07 23:19:00 -
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Its the only way to catch carrier bots in anoms, due to the 10 second scan time and warp time, hes already gone.
So log off in the site with wrecks, hope it was his.
Works 90% of the time. Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |

PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.08.08 01:50:00 -
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Fact 1: The logoff trap is a tactic almost as old as eve itself. Fact 2: No one in this thread has provided a link to any official source stating that logoff traps are against the rules. |

Aleis
Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2012.08.10 18:06:00 -
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To help out a little, this has been brought up A lot. It is not a new tactic and there are a few things
1. CP has repeatedly said "NO"
2. If it was an exploit this thread would have been deleted and you would have gotten an official warning for telling people how to use an exploit.
3. Yes it's cheap, petty, cowardly, and really just shows you how little these people care about those sorts of ideals. You know like Pirates. |

Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.08.10 19:07:00 -
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By the way, https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=117249#post117249
GM Karidor wrote:2) Loggoffski/loggonski Not an exploit at all, and never has been. We wonGÇÖt punish people for logging out of and into the game (even if they happen to log in all at about the same time and location that happens to be inconvenient for you). EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:32:00 -
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Nice and clear.
Also, interestingly, I've found I show up in local and people say hi before my screen even loads upon character select. Not slow either, just a second or so. |

Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers Moar Tears
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Posted - 2012.08.12 12:50:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:It actually is considered an exploit, but many people mistakenly believe it's not due to the fact that it is rarely enforced (due to the difficulty in doing so).
GM Karidor wrote:2) Loggoffski/loggonski Not an exploit at all, and never has been. We wonGÇÖt punish people for logging out of and into the game (even if they happen to log in all at about the same time and location that happens to be inconvenient for you).
Facts > rhetoric
Don't you ever change Xuixien. Not never.
The moar you cry the less you pee |

Sehanine
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2012.08.12 13:08:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:I see no reason to believe that logging into the game is or ever was classified as an exploit. Facts > rhetoric. mmkay?
I think I remember the last time you broke out an argument like that it didn't end well for you either.
I second Pinky's motion that you not change, not never.
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Mallak Azaria
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Posted - 2012.08.12 14:21:00 -
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eddie valvetino wrote:Windorian wrote:There's atleast a dozen threads on this subect already, but we can create another and bother the GM's with yet ANOTHER pointless petition, rather then use google to find your answer.
No, it's not now, nor has it ever been, considered an exploit.
It's a valid game tactic, and is failry well known/used. Wrong Logging in or logging off to get or avoid a fight is and has been an exploit and if you are caught you will be banned. However CCP have also said many times in the past is is completed unpolicable and therefore ignored. If they happen to see it happening, they will ban you. But there is a hardly a CCP employee or GM in every sysem in 0.0 is there?
tl;dr
Playing EVE is a bannable offence. Logging in is bannable. Logging off is bannable.
Crap, I hope I don't get banned for doing any of that stuff for the last several years, every single time that I've played. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

Lexar Mundi
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION ORPHANS OF EVE
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Posted - 2012.08.12 20:48:00 -
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Uh oh, I guess calling your friends to get them to log off battlefield and log on EVE to get some pew pew would be banable... damn looks like i have to solo for the rest of my life  |
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