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Cyrus Doul Infinite Covenant	Posted - 2010.11.03 14:48:00 - [61] Originally by: egegergergsdgedgege Is there anywhere a statement of CCP reagarding that incident, yet? ege Of the wardec thing? I'm trying to find it. last time i saw it pop up on a thread was about a year and a half ago during the apoc patch. Since then its been buried by millions billions "someone changed their stront timer and dropped out of alliance boohoo" threads.
Orion GUardian Caldari	Posted - 2010.11.03 14:49:00 - [62] eg: They removed the other TCUs as well....
Zeke Mobius	Posted - 2010.11.03 14:55:00 - [63] only an "exploit" (lol exploit my ass) if used against ccp
Sader Rykane Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate	Posted - 2010.11.03 15:17:00 - [64] Why are people making such a huge deal over this? It's CLEAR that Test used an EXTENDED downtime to their advantage. You are not supposed to take sov without any risk. The title of this thread is misleading and should be changed for insighting "rumours".
Yuki Kulotsuki	Posted - 2010.11.03 15:21:00 - [65] For those playing at home, it looks like SBU onlining during exDT is also teh sploitz. evenews24, inaccurate on many points but the main thrust of the report is still true. Maybe someone should update the patch notes? Originally by: Patch notes for Tyrannis 1.2 Deployed Tuesday, November 2, 2010 Miscellaneous * When moving items, the cursor is now anchored in the top left corner of the items, as it previously did. * System channels, such as Local, now persist correctly and cannot be closed. * The asset window no longer goes blank if it was open while your ship was docking. * Onlining sovereignty structures during extended downtime is no longer a valid tactic and will be reversed by GMs if (and only if) petitioned. This is a revision of GM policies to not intervene in sovereignty. Originally by: CCP Lemur THIS IS GOD: ... IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.
Barakkus	Posted - 2010.11.03 16:06:00 - [66] They need to just make the timers only count down when TQ is online and accepting connections. Originally by: captain foivos Who would recruit someone named Barakkus? Wait a minute...
Karina Bellac	Posted - 2010.11.03 16:15:00 - [67] So the upshot is you can claim to own space without having to use sovereignty structures, and you just have to submit your claim to the GMs.
Edible Bandaid Gallente Crimson Nation	Posted - 2010.11.03 16:21:00 - [68] So the upshot of this is everyone in eve cant place SBU/TCU in YOUR space every time there is a major patch and insta-earn it. Sov mechanics are there to create battles, you're trying to play WITHOUT fighting. Don't be surprised that everyone is pretty apathetic to your spamstorm. ___________________________________ WHHYYYYYY
Yuki Kulotsuki	Posted - 2010.11.03 16:25:00 - [69] Originally by: Edible Bandaid So the upshot of this is everyone in eve cant place SBU/TCU in YOUR space every time there is a major patch and insta-earn it. Confirming that unclaimed space is IT space. Originally by: CCP Lemur THIS IS GOD: ... IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.
Dirk Mortice	Posted - 2010.11.03 16:27:00 - [70] MY TINFOIL HAT, I'VE LOST IT. SOMEBODY HELP ME PLEASE. THE VOICES, THEY ARE COMING!
Edible Bandaid Gallente Crimson Nation	Posted - 2010.11.03 16:28:00 - [71] Unclaimed systems within their space. Don't try to be cute. It may all make perfect sense in your head. But in reality you're just whining. ___________________________________ WHHYYYYYY
Karina Bellac	Posted - 2010.11.03 16:29:00 - [72] Originally by: Edible Bandaid So the upshot of this is everyone in eve cant place SBU/TCU in YOUR space every time there is a major patch and insta-earn it. Also confirming that unclaimed space is IT space. Quote: Sov mechanics are there to create battles, you're trying to play WITHOUT fighting. Don't be surprised that everyone is pretty apathetic to your spamstorm. Trying to play without fighting? As in petitioning away opposition TCUs instead of shooting them?
Yuki Kulotsuki	Posted - 2010.11.03 16:38:00 - [73] Originally by: Edible Bandaid Don't try to be cute. ~uguu~ Originally by: CCP Lemur THIS IS GOD: ... IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.
enterprisePSI Gallente Unimatrix 0.1	Posted - 2010.11.03 16:52:00 - [74] what is this? Tears, or the titan dies!
BinaryIdiot Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.11.03 16:58:00 - [75] I don't even know
BinaryIdiot Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.11.03 17:01:00 - [76] Originally by: Barakkus They need to just make the timers only count down when TQ is online and accepting connections. They do this and, the next down time you realize your skill queue had another hour added. Then another. And another... I'm in.
bitters much Nekkid Inc.	Posted - 2010.11.03 17:04:00 - [77] Originally by: BinaryIdiot I don't even know BinaryIdiot Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore I bolded your problem
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.11.03 18:41:00 - [78] Edited by: Ranger 1 on 03/11/2010 18:42:43 Originally by: sweikewa What do you want. This is CCP Quality Petiton Assurance..... From the last CSM report you can read.... ".. A client-side fix for the ôstuckö entering a system issue is on TQ, awaiting a safe time to enable. Team Gridlock fixes are deployed disabled, then they can enabled on a node-by-node basis for battle-testing before being enabled cluster-wide. ..." SO what do you think CCP is realy fighting with the lag ???. Who is so samrt to fix somthing and not turn it on ..... 1st palce in programers Darwin prize goes to ... Wow, clueless doesn't begin to describe your post... ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Edible Bandaid Gallente Crimson Nation	Posted - 2010.11.03 19:07:00 - [79] Originally by: Karina Bellac Also confirming that unclaimed space is IT space. If you can't make the connection then HTFU and get that GED. Quote: Trying to play without fighting? As in petitioning away opposition TCUs instead of shooting them? You mean petitioning CCP and whining about their actions and spamming/trolling the forums about it instead of dropping more TCU's? Yes, thats exactly what I mean. ___________________________________ WHHYYYYYY
Kalle Demos Amarr Hysteria Nexus	Posted - 2010.11.03 19:13:00 - [80] lol tcu whine here too, outcome and trolls were much better on caod
Ak'athra J'ador Amarr Red Federation	Posted - 2010.11.03 22:24:00 - [81] With all the bad press going around about CCP devs cheating at their own game, for years now, can you really afford not to make any statements? I wonder why is it always like this, if someone finds and exploit, you take the hands off approach. no,no, we wont intervene even if people are printing out huge amounts of isk, or have found a way to get skills to train instantly. we will watch and observe the damage being done for a few days then ban some random dude. your game gets sold by word of mouth, you cant afford bad press. get your heads out of each-others asses and talk to he players. fake edit: can you tell us who is in charge for public relations, and where can he be found during fanfest?
Jita Alt666	Posted - 2010.11.04 01:56:00 - [82] You guys seem to be missing the simple point: For the last 5 years every single alliance or corporation that deploys multiple sovereignty claiming items, whether they be pos or station eggs, or in the last year sbus, tcus, or ihubs have made use of downtimes to minimise the risk of attack. That CCP have finally made a stand against this risk minimisation is good to see. The fact that alliance that was going to potentially lose face (not space as the space TEST attacked was unclaimed by anyone) was the lead by the same leadership as the alliance that was once home to ccp employees and had received benefits from that relationship makes those of us with long memories suspicious. With good code CCP could have a mechanism whereby anchoring of anything sends a request to the server and if more than 25% of that on-lining time is during a downtime period the mechanism fails to online. Or with average coding have the on-lining timer pause during downtime and commence where it left of as the server comes back online. The things you can do with good code are impressive.
ModeratedToSilence	Posted - 2010.11.04 02:00:00 - [83] Originally by: Karina Bellac So the upshot is you can claim to own space without having to use sovereignty structures, and you just have to submit your claim to the GMs. The major upshot is you get sov recognised by GM's and you don't have to pay for it.
Chesty McJubblies Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.11.04 12:44:00 - [84] Originally by: egegergergsdgedgege ege Does everyone call you "ege", or do they attempt to pronounce that abomination? Suggestion: Remove the "new topic" button from everywhere apart from the list of topics section within a subforum. That'd save those with chronic hand/eye coordination some face.
Cone Filler Highwaymen	Posted - 2010.11.04 12:52:00 - [85] IT still controls your game
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.11.04 12:53:00 - [86] Originally by: Jita Alt666 The things you can do with good code are impressive. I hear good, clean code is made by taking every single possible corner-case you and your dog can think of and adding special code to handle them. Even when the special cases can be handled easily when the come up and won't affect anything except two-three times a year. A GM removing those TCU's the few times it happens (once the first long downtime, very few times after cause everyone knows it will just be petitioned) Clean code is good code. Oh... and it's goon that has all the devs. (Or did before they failed)
Abdiel Kavash Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2010.11.04 15:41:00 - [87] Originally by: Edible Bandaid So the upshot of this is everyone in eve cant place SBU/TCU in YOUR space every time there is a major patch and insta-earn it. Confirming unclaimed space is CCP space. ___________
Moonlight Express Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.	Posted - 2010.11.04 16:08:00 - [88] Originally by: Jita Alt666 The fact that alliance that was going to potentially lose face (not space as the space TEST attacked was unclaimed by anyone) was the lead by the same leadership as the alliance that was once home to ccp employees and had received benefits from that relationship makes those of us with long memories suspicious. You seem to have very selective memory. The employees you are mentioning in fact was one guy that no longer works for CCP, the alliance in question no longer exists and the people in the new alliance are all new with the exception of the very few. On the other hand, the people that benefited from moon mining exploit still fly the super capitals made from those funds and their super capitals magically re-appear when they are destroyed. The hypocrisy of your views of events that happened 5 years ago from one bad CCP apple to the current event is remarkable. Maybe you should post with your brainwashed, hypocritical goon main next time.
Jita Alt666	Posted - 2010.11.05 07:29:00 - [89] Edited by: Jita Alt666 on 05/11/2010 07:31:47 Originally by: Moonlight Express Originally by: Jita Alt666 The fact that alliance that was going to potentially lose face (not space as the space TEST attacked was unclaimed by anyone) was the lead by the same leadership as the alliance that was once home to ccp employees and had received benefits from that relationship makes those of us with long memories suspicious. You seem to have very selective memory. The employees you are mentioning in fact was one guy that no longer works for CCP, the alliance in question no longer exists and the people in the new alliance are all new with the exception of the very few. On the other hand, the people that benefited from moon mining exploit still fly the super capitals made from those funds and their super capitals magically re-appear when they are destroyed. The hypocrisy of your views of events that happened 5 years ago from one bad CCP apple to the current event is remarkable. Maybe you should post with your brainwashed, hypocritical goon main next time. My memory is not selective, nor is it brainwashed. The incidents you selectively bring to the discussion do not have concrete links to CCP employees. You are right in that this game is full of dubious connections and use of exploits, it is due to this I have an intense distrust of CCP. In regards to your attempt to tarnish me with mud slinging via association with an alliance that no longer exists, it is amusing, as is your misuse of the word hypocrisy.
Lady Parity Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.11.05 08:27:00 - [90] Actually CCP have always removed done stuff like this, you think Test were the first ones to deploy TCUs before an extended DT lol ok, Test are the first ones to mass whine though, other alliances that arent tainted by goons tend not to give a **** when they got stuff removed. As for the corrupted dev remark, IT had all it's warp bubbles removed due to a petition made against them and NC have had super caps spawn randomly. Seriously what is up with people memories, if IT have a dev working for them then so does every other alliance

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