Go back to your drake.

That's not to say that something should not be done about on-grid scanning, but I wouldn't go so far as to outright kill it.

I would. There is no reason to have it and it has completely removed sniping it all its forms, thus wiping out an entire class of ships (and ammo).

Thankfully, they are looking at fixing this problem, so there's hopeGǪ

Just a completely wild thought that I am sure has holes in it:


Change plates to increase sig radius and not impact speed
Change shield extenders/purgers to decrease speed and not impact sig radius.

This would have many impacts, including fixing some of the weird mismatched nonsense of gun turret types to ship types.

Armor tanked ships (typically Gallente and Amar) would now be *slightly* better off on their speed, which helps Blasters get into range.

Rails with crappy tracking would be able to better manage their range (due to speed increase)

Missile boats would be hardly impacted at all. Some would get nerfed slightly due to speed loss (Caracal, etc); I am not sure if this would really be too much or not.

On top of that I would likely still say that Medium and Large Blasters need a slight range increase just so you don't need to facehug something to shoot it.

This would be a small impact change as far as I can tell, but may help edge things a bit more center.

Just thinking out loud.

If the only strength to Rails is range, the range should be ABSURD.

For instance, Javelin (shortest range ammunition) on naked (no gyros or tracking enhancers) t2 425mm rails should be 90km+.

The strength from rails should be more dps AT RANGE, less alpha than artys. Best way to do that is extend the range of the shortest range ammo. Do that for all size rails (especially medium.... also, less pg need plzthxbai)

Railguns have plenty of range as it is.

Remove on-grid probing.

Remove on-grid probing.

I have to agree said Goon here, The issue is not range, it's that Rails just don't have the damage to be all that effective. What the could use is either a firing rate bonus or just more raw damage.

That won't have the effect you want. It'd be quite easy to probe just off grid with a covert ops, make a bookmark, get back on grid, and fleet warp to the bookmark. You'd just be shoving combat probing to off-grid alts.

Rails are the weapon by which TEST's conquest of Delve, Querious and Period Basis was wrought, you know.

Bullcrap pure overwhelmong numbers was how Delve, Querious and Period Basis was brought down.

Great idea.

No wait, it's a terrible idea.

On-grid probing is not a problem.

Stupid people who don't snipe while aligned to something they can warp to or spend a few milliseconds checking D-scan are the problem.

I think weak leadership on SoCo's part had more to do with it.

Not at all, it was simply that SoCo didn't want to put the Supers on the table because they would be blobbed out by the massive amount of enemy supers.

Now that Test doesn't have half of null sec behind them, they are starting to lose.

Not at all, it was simply that SoCo didn't want to put the Supers on the table because they would be blobbed out by the massive amount of enemy supers.

Now that Test doesn't have half of null sec behind them, they are starting to lose.

Oh dear, they're starting to lose?

GǪaside from the fact that the one factor that is really meant to differentiate them has largely been rendered irrelevant due to other mechanics (probing). So the GǣextremeGǥ balance is only on paper and only if you look at the guns on their own without any kind of context.

Bullcrap pure overwhelmong numbers was how Delve, Querious and Period Basis was brought down.

Extend maximum range. Remove on-grid probing.

hint: they had the ability to match our numbers with ease

I would. There is no reason to have it and it has completely removed sniping it all its forms, thus wiping out an entire class of ships (and ammo).

Thankfully, they are looking at fixing this problem, so there's hopeGǪ