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McDeth
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Posted - 2010.11.05 09:51:00 -
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Hi guys, been gone for a bit and was wondering, how much ISK does the average joe have / make daily? What is considered low, average, a lot for the main eve professions.
Thanks
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Rakrist
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.05 09:52:00 -
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I make 17 million, does that help?
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Angry Dogs
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Posted - 2010.11.05 09:55:00 -
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Anywhere from nothing to several billion depending on who I kill.
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McDeth
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Posted - 2010.11.05 11:04:00 -
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What do miners make / day?
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sasabor
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Posted - 2010.11.05 11:19:00 -
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there is way to much difference in ways to earn money in this game Some people make only a few millions in a day others can earn a billion
on average high sec miners can make a +/- 10 million a hour( in a hulk ) 0.0 sec miners can buy a new hulk everyday ( figure os speech) if they dedicate a few hours on mining in a upgraded system mission runners easily reach 100 mil for a few hours of grinding lvl 4 missions a good trader can make a billion a week if he finds a good trading opportunity
these are just a few examples there are many more my advice it is not what you earn that makes you rich it is the way you spending your money that makes you rich
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.11.05 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: McDeth Hi guys, been gone for a bit and was wondering, how much ISK does the average joe have / make daily? What is considered low, average, a lot for the main eve professions.
Thanks
* Mining has become imncreasingly less profitable, I think a solo Hulk miner using t2 crystals earns like 8-9 million an hour in highsec. In lowsec it's about ~2.5 times as much. * Mission running is far more profitable. I think a combat mission runner already earns like 5 million/hour average in L3 and 25-35 million/hour average in L4 missions. * Wormholes (sleepers) can earn a few hundred million in a few hours but the time to scan WHs down and getting people to that place decreases the actual ISK/hour ratio so it's not a reliable source of income.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.11.05 11:26:00 -
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Somewhere between none and a lot - which, while not helpful, is the most accurate answer.
Mining is slow, steady money, but they're not making nearly as much money at that as they used to (even for things like Zydrine and Megacyte, the prices have fallen, in my experience).
Mission running level 4s will earn you a decent amount of money, more if you can salvage as you mission as opposed to after the fact.
As in all things, reward goes up with (perceived) risk. WH space and nullsec are where the real money is. --Vel
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.05 12:10:00 -
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Some professions have incomes measured in hours worked, other professions have profits measured in daily profit.
It doesn't make sense to ask "how much a miner makes per day" since you don't mention how many hours a day is he mining. Also, what, where and how he mines matters a lot too, between a solo retriever mining in highsec and a maxed-out hulk in a rorqual-boosted mining op, the difference in income level per hour can be as high as 30 times higher for the latter.
For manufacturers or traders, you usually talk about per slot per day profit or percent of investment per day profit, whichever is more pertinent, and is dependent on too many factors to mention in detail. Suffice to say here too the potential profitability range is even greater than in the previous example, with anything between 10 mil and 500 mil per day not being too unusual.
And so on and so forth.
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MEESO ONGTYME
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.05 13:01:00 -
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I've got 1.6 million SP, haven't been playing very long, and have been mining to pay the nonexistent bills. Since I got my Retriever I've been able to pull in around 3.5 million isk a day playing only 2 hours or so. Very excited about this weekend to see how much I'll be able to rake in.
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Efraya
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.11.05 13:21:00 -
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Looking at about 70mill per session (3-4 hrs). Ish.
Remember though McDerth, it's not the making of the money, it's all about the enjoyment or any interesting things that happened during your playtime.
We're playing eve, not playing for isk. Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist |
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Sporked
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Posted - 2010.11.05 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Efraya Looking at about 70mill per session (3-4 hrs). Ish.
Remember though McDerth, it's not the making of the money, it's all about the enjoyment or any interesting things that happened during your playtime.
We're playing eve, not playing for isk.
I feel the need to point out the irony of mentioning both running missions for 3-4 hours at a time and anything interesting happenening in the same sentence.
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JTDaBeast
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Posted - 2010.11.05 13:27:00 -
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I am almost afraid to include PI in all this. LMAO
JT
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Efraya
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.11.05 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sporked
Originally by: Efraya Looking at about 70mill per session (3-4 hrs). Ish.
Remember though McDerth, it's not the making of the money, it's all about the enjoyment or any interesting things that happened during your playtime.
We're playing eve, not playing for isk.
I feel the need to point out the irony of mentioning both running missions for 3-4 hours at a time and anything interesting happenening in the same sentence.
I'm not running missions bro. Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist |
Skippermonkey
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.11.05 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: McDeth Edited by: McDeth on 05/11/2010 11:18:25 Hi guys, been gone for a bit and was wondering, how much ISK does the average joe have / make daily? What is considered low, average, a lot for the main eve professions.
Thanks
Ask him yourself
Originally by: CCP Capslock
OH GOD THE TESTING
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Aingelluss
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.11.05 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Rakrist I make 17 million, does that help?
No, neither does it help that youre a mememonkey.
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Jason1138
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Posted - 2010.11.05 14:55:00 -
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i make between 100-150 million a day running level 4's, if that helps you
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omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.11.05 15:00:00 -
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I don't even HAVE an income. I lose 20mil a day on average.
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Xituqtra
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Posted - 2010.11.05 15:13:00 -
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currently I don't really play a lot and only lose isk when I play. However when I'm exploring in 0.0 I can make anywhere between a few mil (crappy drop at the end so only overseer tiers and bounty's probably 50 mil give or take) up to a few bil (a very good drop at the end of complex) a day. This is provided I even find the damned complex.
I have lived in sansha space where I had on average a 6/10 complex a day. From that complex I could pull anywhere between 60 mil to 1 bil all depending on the last drop.
But atleast I have fun doing it and that is what matters
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Kimsemus
Imperium Technologies Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.11.05 16:35:00 -
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According to the Quarterly Economic Report, the average amount of ISK in a player's wallet is around 290m.
In highsec, 15-20m/hour is reasonable with good skills in level IV missions. Mining is around 10m in highsec.
In nullsec, 100m an hour is possible with good skills in Sanctums, factor in 10/10 sites and you're making huge amounts of isk.
Mining in nullsec can yield the same amounts, if you're mining ABC ores which are common enough in upgraded systems.
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kiki mo
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.11.05 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: McDeth Edited by: McDeth on 05/11/2010 11:18:25 Hi guys, been gone for a bit and was wondering, how much ISK does the average joe have / make daily? What is considered low, average, a lot for the main eve professions.
Thanks
It depends on the 'Joe'...ask Joe Phoenix, he's well regarded in some circles
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Exuron
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Posted - 2010.11.05 16:41:00 -
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750mil
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omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.11.05 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kimsemus According to the Quarterly Economic Report, the average amount of ISK in a player's wallet is around 290m.
Now consider that the average player is a trolling alt with 56k SP and 5000 isk. I'd say the real number for "players" as opposed to "characters" is at least ten times that amount.
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Random Alt1467
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Posted - 2010.11.05 20:59:00 -
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I live in lowsec doing RADAR/MAG/Escalations and can make as little as 20-50 Mil for a few hours of work as 600Mil+ depending on how things work out. I averages out to about 100Mil a day for 2-3 hours of work.
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.06 04:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kimsemus According to the Quarterly Economic Report...
That report also said that the Primae was the most popular ship in EVE, so it's suspect how they decide to calculate things.
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Xanaan Zenithdul
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Posted - 2010.11.06 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Soporo
Originally by: Kimsemus According to the Quarterly Economic Report...
That report also said that the Primae was the most popular ship in EVE, so it's suspect how they decide to calculate things.
Primae was given to every single character in eve. Every one, all of them. Even those wich are in inactive accounts. Even those that are freetrial accounts created and then forgotten.
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Max Cetera
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Posted - 2010.11.06 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
It doesn't make sense to ask "how much a miner makes per day" since you don't mention how many hours a day is he mining.
I like you Akita, but you kinda fail on this one. A miner works 23-23.5 hours a day in a solo Hulk, going back to station everytime cargo is filled.
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Urgg Boolean
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Posted - 2010.11.06 13:20:00 -
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Like many have posted before me, it's not quite correct to ask "how much per day/hour", as that figure is too variable if you factor in repairs/losses, changes in the economy, etc. Even a "sure bet" single active income source like mining can accrue losses via suicide gankage. The bread and butter income from L4 missions is variable too, if you consider sales of salvage and utilization of LP once it accrues to a usable quantity. So thinking about "monthly income" makes more sense to me.
Once you are set up, you'll have passive income from R&D, semi-passive income from PI, and multiple active income activities. Kind of obvious, but passive sources allow income while you are focused on real life, or non-income generating activities in the game. A variety of active income sources allows you to stave off boredom, and to flexibly adapt to your RL status. For example, the only way I mine is semi-AFK while I'm doing homework, with an occasional at-keyboard corp mining OP at a juicy grav site I have scanned down. When I have time for focused gaming, I run L4 missions, exploration, and lately I've baiting Ninja Salvagers with the help of corpmates to satisfy my dark side.
I'd say a better approach is to set some goal, figure out how much it will cost you, then decide the time frame in which you want to make all the necessary ISK. Your decision about how much time to spend making X amount of ISK will be the driver for your choices of ISK making activities, assuming you have built up to multiple options.
The one income source I cannot understand is manufacturing. A corpmate has been researching blueprints madly for a very long time now, and I asked him if he could make me several batches of T1 torpedoes, he replied that he could, but it would be cheaper for me to sell the ore I would have given him, and buy the ammo from other manufacturers. He based this on his spreadsheets of market prices versus his cost of manufacture that he keeps clean and updated regularly. Now, he has "perfect" manufacturing skills, many excellent blueprints, but it's still cheaper for me to buy from someone else. I just don't get this picture, which is enough for me to steer clear of that route as an income source for myself.
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Chesty McJubblies
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.11.06 13:31:00 -
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I guess you'd need to ask everyone, then take an average of that. Let us know how that goes. Suggestion: Remove the "new topic" button from everywhere apart from the list of topics section within a subforum.
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Captain Megadeath
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Posted - 2010.11.06 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Xanaan Zenithdul
Originally by: Soporo
Originally by: Kimsemus According to the Quarterly Economic Report...
That report also said that the Primae was the most popular ship in EVE, so it's suspect how they decide to calculate things.
Primae was given to every single character in eve. Every one, all of them. Even those wich are in inactive accounts. Even those that are freetrial accounts created and then forgotten.
Wrong.
The gift of a Primae was given to all full accounts but had to be redeemmed before an exact date. The exact quote was; CCP Zinfandel Beginning June 29, 2010, you will find the ability to redeem it on your account login screen. You can then assign it to a particular character and a friendly ORE agent will deliver it to your hangar bay. You will be able to redeem the Primae once per active (not trial) account and will no longer be available after downtime on Tuesday, July 13th 2010, so make sure you log in to receive yours. Not redeemmed = no primae. So those inactive full accounts didn't recieve one.
Primaes were NOT given to trail accounts.
Sauce = ore primae ship nearing distribution û a gift for all capsuleers
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails my name actually is short for catherine
Yeah, Katie Door perhaps...... lol
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Tom Sasaki
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Posted - 2010.11.06 13:56:00 -
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Not enough to matter
Its better to belong to the 5% that controls 95% :)
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