This is my goodbye. 10 hours from now I will be recycled. I already recycled my alt. Three years of playing.

I quit because I started to ask myself: "To what end...is it only isk?"
Grind up LP for some goodies...to what end..
Explore wormholes..to what end...
shoot rocks...to what end...
Last night I suicide ganked a makinaw in Osmon in my nightmare...to what end?
Last night I got concorded in my Golem for attacking a Noctis in Osmon....to what end?

Turns out, ISK was the endgame for me due to a lack of EVE driven content. Nothing to really do but make isk by shooting red crosses..etc, Sure, the developers want human driven content but I'm a carebear with few hours to spend taking orders from a mouthbreathing neckbeard telling me what ship to fly and how. With no interest to develop spacehip friends, and the ability to buy as much PLEX anytime I wanted, I guess I fell out of the demographic for the game..so...bye.

Lastly, I left a shuttle with 5 PLEX in it and an omega virtue implant parked in deadspace in Jita as an easter egg. You'll have to scan it down if you want it. All my other stuff and isk will be melted down to the biowhatever.

RIP Corporation member babymuncho
From: CONCORD
Sent: 2012.08.06 14:59

The untimely death of fellow babymuncho Corp member babymuncho, on Monday, August 06, 2012, is a source of sorrow to me and their many friends in the corporation. Please accept our deepest sympathies in your bereavement. babymuncho was being reanimated at the cloning facility at the time when the fatal accident occurred.

babymuncho was a fine person and was admired by their fellow corporation members. You could trust them with almost anything. We will all miss them. I realize that words can do little to console you at a time like this, but I want you to know that we share your sorrow.

Sincerely, babymuncho Corp

Thanks for the notes peeps...especially the thoughful folks.

I had the same questions about corp life/pvp...to what end?

After I thought about it...I found the endgame for eve and it's this: you decide to spend your time playing this game over some other activity. I just found that cycling, learning the banjo, and being outside became my priority. When that happened, all of those pixels suddenly became worthless.

After I thought about it...I found the endgame for eve and it's this: you decide to spend your time playing this game over some other activity. I just found that cycling, learning the banjo, and being outside became my priority. When that happened, all of those pixels suddenly became worthless.

Good for you! I must admit it took being stuck without internet for over 2 weeks to get me to this same point, but I totally get where you're coming from. I started working out, and after two weeks, when it came to working out (and feeling better, stronger, clearer) and playing EVE, I end up choosing the workout every time. I'm forum warrioring right now between sets!

And pixels were always worthless. Which is why I always smirk when people say things like "death penalty" in a game. Please. What penalty? It's all virtual, you freakshow! It's just pixels. A game is supposed to be fun and entertaining, not a grind for ISK or worry about losing a digital ship you never really had to begin with.

This is what happens when you never get beyond PVE. You collect isk, buy all the things, then ask "now what" and quit the game. This is exactly why CCP doesn't need to cater too much to the risk-averse beancounters.

FWIW, we've managed to find engaging things that don't require the shooting of NPCs.

The problem isn't CCP. The problem is people playing an MMO like it's a single player game.

I too am at the same place in the game.

There is no REAL PVE CONTENT, just a load of rediculous complexity that in the end, has no meaning at all.

EVE is a PvP game, and you are the content for other players. Even if all you do is sit in station chatting in corp and local, you are enriching the game for other people. The exciting content is PvP in all its forms. PvE content can be an income stream, and a team building exercise. The PvE content is not here to provide entertainment!

From time to time I myself have thought that EVE would be richer if ther PvE was more entertaining, but I have come to realise that if the PvE was entertaining enough, players would gain nothing from being social. The world would be filled with people who insist on not talking to each other.

The only meaning in this game is what you provide on your own. Set your own goals, don't let NPCs in a game dictate your life story.

But more of interest to me is the idea that group play need revolve around PvP. Why is this? Is there nothing in this game for those that aren't enticed by PvP?

Keep breathing and eating... to what end??

My point being a sandbox is like life. The butterfly effect and all the player interactions make the end game. You don't know what's around the corner how can you there are so many player driven variables its not possible,

My end game is the PVP. I actually get off on my (alts) stats and the fact somewhere I've upset someone by destroying their assets.

Life and eve is what you make it... so make it a good one.

Of course there is, people who don't like PvP produce faction mods, ammo, ships from LP stores which are sold to PvPers.

Also, higher meta mods which are sold to PvPers.

Also, produce regular ammo and ships which are sold to PvPers.

EDIT: @ OP: You dead yet?

But more of interest to me is the idea that group play need revolve around PvP. Why is this? Is there nothing in this game for those that aren't enticed by PvP?

Keep breathing and eating... to what end??

My point being a sandbox is like life. The butterfly effect and all the player interactions make the end game. You don't know what's around the corner how can you there are so many player driven variables its not possible,

My end game is the PVP. I actually get off on my (alts) stats and the fact somewhere I've upset someone by destroying their assets.

Life and eve is what you make it... so make it a good one.

Exploration, mining and missions are PvE content. Of those, missions involve the lest PvP. PvP doesn't always involve shooting people. Sometime PvP is simply getting to the exploration site first, or clearing it out before the other capsuleer does.

There is PvE content, but only in the context of a game that is based on always-on PvP.

Sure, the developers want human driven content but I'm a carebear with few hours to spend taking orders from a fellow mouthbreathing neckbeard telling me what ship to fly and how.