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Haulin Gneiss
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
47
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:09:00 -
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This is my goodbye. 10 hours from now I will be recycled. I already recycled my alt. Three years of playing.
I quit because I started to ask myself: "To what end...is it only isk?" Grind up LP for some goodies...to what end.. Explore wormholes..to what end... shoot rocks...to what end... Last night I suicide ganked a makinaw in Osmon in my nightmare...to what end? Last night I got concorded in my Golem for attacking a Noctis in Osmon....to what end?
Turns out, ISK was the endgame for me due to a lack of EVE driven content. Nothing to really do but make isk by shooting red crosses..etc, Sure, the developers want human driven content but I'm a carebear with few hours to spend taking orders from a mouthbreathing neckbeard telling me what ship to fly and how. With no interest to develop spacehip friends, and the ability to buy as much PLEX anytime I wanted, I guess I fell out of the demographic for the game..so...bye.
Lastly, I left a shuttle with 5 PLEX in it and an omega virtue implant parked in deadspace in Jita as an easter egg. You'll have to scan it down if you want it. All my other stuff and isk will be melted down to the biowhatever.
RIP Corporation member babymuncho From: CONCORD Sent: 2012.08.06 14:59
The untimely death of fellow babymuncho Corp member babymuncho, on Monday, August 06, 2012, is a source of sorrow to me and their many friends in the corporation. Please accept our deepest sympathies in your bereavement. babymuncho was being reanimated at the cloning facility at the time when the fatal accident occurred.
babymuncho was a fine person and was admired by their fellow corporation members. You could trust them with almost anything. We will all miss them. I realize that words can do little to console you at a time like this, but I want you to know that we share your sorrow.
Sincerely, babymuncho Corp |

Jim Era
The Syndicate Inc En Garde
98
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:11:00 -
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Goodbye, I am sorry to see you go. Hope you find happiness and success in whatever endeavors you may face. |

Cadfael Maelgwyn
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:12:00 -
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You sure you just want to melt down that stuff?
EDIT: Sorry this game wasn't what you wanted it to be, though. It isn't quite an immersive, lore-driven universe.
Also, in before carebear haters. |

Large Collidable Object
morons.
1813
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:13:00 -
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ok bye You know... morons. |

Jess Maine
Black Lance Fidelas Constans
12
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:17:00 -
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Your stuff... May I has?... Please? |

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
321
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:22:00 -
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You could ask the same questions and come to the same conclusions about any video game/mmo.. I guess this means you are growing up? [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG] |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
2124
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:22:00 -
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This is what happens when you never get beyond PVE. You collect isk, buy all the things, then ask "now what" and quit the game. This is exactly why CCP doesn't need to cater too much to the risk-averse beancounters.
edit: I'm in the midst of my own crisis regarding Eve, wondering whether I'll be playing it next month. But it's not because I don't see a point in what I do...it's because it's become increasingly hard to do it. The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
321
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:24:00 -
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Jess Maine wrote:Your stuff... May I has?... Please?
she's given you the address of her 5 plex .. go scan them down and claim them. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG] |

Serotonin Starminx
Black Hole Sun Inc
0
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:25:00 -
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Keep breathing and eating... to what end??
My point being a sandbox is like life. The butterfly effect and all the player interactions make the end game. You don't know what's around the corner how can you there are so many player driven variables its not possible,
My end game is the PVP. I actually get off on my (alts) stats and the fact somewhere I've upset someone by destroying their assets.
Life and eve is what you make it... so make it a good one. |

Cpt Gobla
No Bullshit Jokers Wild.
45
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:26:00 -
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I think you're kinda missing the point here.
There's no end. There's no final goal. There's no finish-line.
ISK isn't the end-game. There is no end-game. Your wallet isn't an experience bar to fill. You won't ding 80 once you reach a certain amount of ISK and suddenly a whole new game opens up.
You just fly around and do whatever you want. Or not.
Just grab a cheap ship and fly into low-sec. Scan some sites and run them, just to see what's there. Shoot somebody on a gate, just to see what will happen.
Join Faction War or RvB, grab a cool frigate of your choice and speed around shooting at reds that show up on your overview.
Scan down a wormhole, grab a tower and see if you can survive on your own. Mine your own ammo, build your own ships and survive whilst you find it interesting.
It's not a binary situation of either running missions all day or sitting in null sec taking orders and flying in giant fleets. You can do whatever the hell you want.
A week ago me and a few buddies flew into null sec with T1 cruisers and frigs. Straight into a 30man fleet. Two of us made it out. It was hilarious. A few days after that I met a guy from TEST alliance who was ninja salvaging my mission and had a short chat with him, then went back to running missions. Yesterday I jumped through an Avatar in low-sec to catch a lone drake with my alliance (sadly the Avatar wasn't ours) to kill and pod it. Today I'm running anomalies and evading war targets, hoping I get some faction loot whilst not getting my ship blown up.
Just pick a direction, pick a ship and start flying. If you do the same thing every day it's no wonder you get bored.
I'd getting a whole bunch of cheap ships and taking an EvE vacation, just wander around the map and see what's there.
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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
486
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:28:00 -
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Jim Era wrote:Goodbye, I am sorry to see you go. Hope you find happiness and success in whatever endeavors you may face.
IBTL.
The epitaph on the mass grave of carebears everywhere: "What is there to do except make ISK?" As much fun as I have driving carebears out of the game, we can't match CCP for effectiveness.
Say 'hi' to all your crying brethren in doomheim for me. |

Saile Litestrider
Finest Kobold Engineering
49
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:29:00 -
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Sounds like you got caught in the classic trap of believing high sec mission running and nullsec blob warfare are the only two aspects of the game, not so much a case of missing the forest for the trees as missing the forest for a few anemic sticks sitting some feet away from it. Lowsec, W-space, even non-"traditional" high and null corps offer just what you're looking for. Unfortunately you apparently refused to talk to people and look for corps that offer what you're looking for.
Anyway, it's unlikely you'll be missed.
Also, can I have your stuff? |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
2125
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:31:00 -
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OP is going to hate him/herself when they come back a year later and don't have all that stuff.
If I decide to take a break, I'm just going to sink all my isk into PLEX and let the accounts lapse. That way if I come back I should be covered for inflation and have an easy way to resub. And if I never come back, CCP benefits from having a stack of PLEX tied up in a dead account. The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |

Jess Maine
Black Lance Fidelas Constans
12
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:32:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:Jess Maine wrote:Your stuff... May I has?... Please?  she's given you the address of her 5 plex .. go scan them down and claim them.
But I don't want to go to effort for someone who's stated they are trying to play an MMO on their own like some antisocial basement dweller :( |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
971
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:35:00 -
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Sorry to hear you lost the game.
Let me know when you find another game that is truly meaningful and not simply fun to play. I'll hold my breath now. Hurry.
Here's your sign... |

Sarik Olecar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:38:00 -
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Why am I always stuck at work when emo philanthropists donate all their worldly possessions to some random passerby-er...
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Jame Jarl Retief
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
210
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:40:00 -
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"To what end?" is a very bad question to be asking yourself. It's just too darn depressing.
To what end to play EVE? To what end to play anything? It's all virtual anyway, and ten or twenty years down the line all these EVE "accomplishments" will be meaningless to you. Think back to your first character in your first MMO, or your first game. How important is that char to you today? Me personally, I couldn't care less even if you paid me.
Bottom line, why bother to do anything? In less than a hundred years I'll be dead. So will almost everyone I know. In about 5 billion years the sun will become a red giant, and 8 billion years or so from now will likely expand to engulf this planet, and anything on it. So why bother?
See what I mean? Depressing as hell!
So look at it the way I do. Do what is fun, here and now. Do you know what I did this weekend? Played Orcs Must Die 2. Deceptively simple but fun game. Happily killed a lot of free time this weekend playing it. And while ultimately it doesn't really matter - I still didn't kill all the orcs - it was fun while it lasted. I suggest you look at EVE the same way. It was fun. Now it's over. Move on.
Though personally I wouldn't go as far as biomass my character. You never know what will happen in future. Suppose CCP gets bought by EA and you can legally sell your character for real cash with an auction house like Blizzard made in DIablo 3? You might be throwing a hundred bucks or more out the window for no reason.  |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
2127
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:46:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:As much fun as I have driving carebears out of the game, we can't match CCP for effectiveness.
FWIW, we've managed to find engaging things that don't require the shooting of NPCs.
The problem isn't CCP. The problem is people playing an MMO like it's a single player game. The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |

George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:50:00 -
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I'm no sucker for goodbye-posts, but this was actually quite good. No whining - just well argued reasons. Whether it serves any purpose posting personal reasons for leaving a game is another matter though. "I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread |

baltec1
Bat Country
1818
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:50:00 -
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Haulin Gneiss wrote:This is my goodbye. 10 hours from now I will be recycled. I already recycled my alt. Three years of playing.
I quit because I started to ask myself: "To what end...is it only isk?" Grind up LP for some goodies...to what end.. Explore wormholes..to what end... shoot rocks...to what end... Last night I suicide ganked a makinaw in Osmon in my nightmare...to what end? Last night I got concorded in my Golem for attacking a Noctis in Osmon....to what end?
Turns out, ISK was the endgame for me due to a lack of EVE driven content. Nothing to really do but make isk by shooting red crosses..etc, Sure, the developers want human driven content but I'm a carebear with few hours to spend taking orders from a mouthbreathing neckbeard telling me what ship to fly and how. With no interest to develop spacehip friends, and the ability to buy as much PLEX anytime I wanted, I guess I fell out of the demographic for the game..so...bye.
Lastly, I left a shuttle with 5 PLEX in it and an omega virtue implant parked in deadspace in Jita as an easter egg. You'll have to scan it down if you want it. All my other stuff and isk will be melted down to the biowhatever.
RIP Corporation member babymuncho From: CONCORD Sent: 2012.08.06 14:59
The untimely death of fellow babymuncho Corp member babymuncho, on Monday, August 06, 2012, is a source of sorrow to me and their many friends in the corporation. Please accept our deepest sympathies in your bereavement. babymuncho was being reanimated at the cloning facility at the time when the fatal accident occurred.
babymuncho was a fine person and was admired by their fellow corporation members. You could trust them with almost anything. We will all miss them. I realize that words can do little to console you at a time like this, but I want you to know that we share your sorrow.
Sincerely, babymuncho Corp
tl;dr
I lack imagination. |

Ghazu
18
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:52:00 -
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naw i call bs op didn't do all that. |

Gogela
Direct Action LLC.
917
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:52:00 -
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You should have tried joining a big corp or alliance just to try it out. By the looks of your corp history you might be a closet case. Happy trails and contract me your stuff plz...
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Haulin Gneiss
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
48
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:57:00 -
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Thanks for the notes peeps...especially the thoughful folks.
I had the same questions about corp life/pvp...to what end?
After I thought about it...I found the endgame for eve and it's this: you decide to spend your time playing this game over some other activity. I just found that cycling, learning the banjo, and being outside became my priority. When that happened, all of those pixels suddenly became worthless. |

Metal Icarus
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
239
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Posted - 2012.08.06 18:01:00 -
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Onto a more serious matter....
can I has your stuff?
srs |

Jim Era
The Syndicate Inc En Garde
101
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Posted - 2012.08.06 18:03:00 -
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I feel ya OP, I rarely play at all actually, most of the time toasting in forums or just researching the lore. I am currently relearning the guitar *already know the banjo heuheu* but I do enjoy the <15 minutes I play during the week to just log on and socialize and fly around and look at the neat pictures in space. Just don't feel the need to "beat EVE" and you can enjoy it, its meant to play at your own leisure |

Cadfael Maelgwyn
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.08.06 18:03:00 -
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Haulin Gneiss wrote:After I thought about it...I found the endgame for eve and it's this: you decide to spend your time playing this game over some other activity. I just found that cycling, learning the banjo, and being outside became my priority. When that happened, all of those pixels suddenly became worthless. Can't really argue with that. |

Jess Maine
Black Lance Fidelas Constans
12
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Posted - 2012.08.06 18:04:00 -
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Haulin Gneiss wrote:Thanks for the notes peeps...especially the thoughful folks.
I had the same questions about corp life/pvp...to what end?
After I thought about it...I found the endgame for eve and it's this: you decide to spend your time playing this game over some other activity. I just found that cycling, learning the banjo, and being outside became my priority. When that happened, all of those pixels suddenly became worthless.
Posting in stealth "get a life EVEers" thread |

Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
75
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Posted - 2012.08.06 18:05:00 -
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I get online to see my space ship and passing planets...anything else is mild inconvinience. |

No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1110
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Posted - 2012.08.06 18:06:00 -
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I strongly suspect that you were playing this game by yourself.
This is a terrible game to play by yourself. . |

Pilna Vcelka
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.08.06 18:34:00 -
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OP: Many people I know IRL who tried EVE have felt this way, vast majority of them left in their first year. This game really hasnt much to offer in-game wise apart from trading / industry career and the social metagaming.
I can still amuse myself by carebear activites, staying happily in an NPC corp with both my combat and industrial pilot, I do seem to log in less and less each month though. I dont think its neccessarily bad though, both of my active pilots are developing their skills over time and I dont feel like a MMO addict.
I have to agree that EVE can be terrible to play alone, yet it can be much, much worse playing with most of the dejected teen a**holes around - I mean, who in their right mind and adult years would let a 20y/o no-lifer scream at them for not being uberleet at flying their ship?
I myself havent succeeded in finding any decent corp in EVE in my first 5 months, all I found were scammers, immature kids, more scammers and more immature kids. Plus on top of that Im not a native english speaker and I find it very hard to keep up on voice comms with all those british / australian people with heavy accents and slang jokes.
By the way, dont biomass yourself .. if you really know for sure you are not coming back, why not offer your belongings / characters to someone who would actually use them and have fun with it? Just an idea :-) |
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