bah.. easily overcome. cpu rigs, or implant. or just good fitting skills. my mining alt is training Exhumers V and Mining Upgrades V .. i won't let any fit she flies go below 35k roughly.

So as like the title says, alot of Faith and trust allredy got lost for you CCP, by the miners big time.

CCP devs brougth up promises there wont no longer be a possibility a Miningship could get blown up by sneezing bywanderers, brougth the first changes to test out on Sisi and the Big Waaahh waaahhh Whining started coming from Gankers they couldn't longer gank a Mining ship with a LOLnoobship worth 2 - 3 Millions, and they needed to adapt and bring up more firepower and so on and fort.....

So what did you do CCP, again you listened to the most vocal loudest screaming whinning folks especially the biggest whiner Herr Wilkus and his friends and nerfed down more and more the changes to a level as they are now.

ANd there we are......the changes you promised where come, and after todays finalized patch on Sisi, the Changes ( Defensibility wise ) are drained down the Watercloset and on a level the changes are not longer changes in Favor for the allready hardly hitted Miners its technically a nerf.

I'm applauding to you CCP slapping again the weakest rigth in their faces and let the easy ganking continue.

Allready some friends of mine which are Miners told me they are in verge after this change comes up they're going to unsub, so CCP expect another huge loss about Subscriptions incoming.

Sincerly

Andre Jean Sarpantis ( Roleplayed nephew from the Serpentis founder )

I was wondering where the miners were that people kept saying complain about the stupidest things.... so thank you for letting me know who you are. You give miners a bad rep acting like this, might gank you a few times just because of it. lol.

feel free to show the class that killmail of a hulk by a "lolnoobship"

anski you know he meant a catalyst or 3... which to a hulk 400 million is not balanced but keep up that tech reimbursement policy...

To be honest, I kind of like how Hulks are going to be the "soft" ships with the highest yield.

More risk, more reward.

The Skiff, while no slouch in terms of mining, is a tougher nut to crack so you can always feel free to use that if you anticipate company and the exchange of yield.

Yea, sure, but then again, why changing the barge/exhumer EHP at all, if it's the players business to avoid gankers?

Not that I agree with the OP, mind you, I still love the changes... but the balancing process to get where the SiSi patch now is, was kinda... odd.

no wonder you live on the forums, you must be shunned from any other social activity due to small brain size. Miners take zero risk? really?

so many no life trash tossing their worthless 2 cents in every thread. thanks for making me feel better about my brain, kids.

anski you know he meant a catalyst or 3... which to a hulk 400 million is not balanced but keep up that tech reimbursement policy...

what would be balanced then

When it takes 40 T2 Catalysts to gank a hulk of course.

Well 40 is a bit over the edge, but it would make it more cost equal so that at least BC's were necessary again to gank a Hulk not those fecking lowcostlolcatalysts.

Well 40 is a bit over the edge, but it would make it more cost equal

What, 35? Don't you think you're taking it a bit easy on...

Oh, ok. Sure let's go for 35 for now, later on we'll jump to 45 by "remembering" they not only destroy 400mil but also get salvage and loot.

No, it really shouldn't. That's the epitome of idiotic game design and remains the base cause of one of the most long-standing and horribly unbalanced design decisions in EVE ever.

Cost is not a balancing factor.

Geez, you didn't read my full post, i said.....would be necessary to field BC's at least again to bring down a Hulk.

I was talking about BC's, as the price the gankers would have to pay to kill a 300 Million T2 Ship.

scan before you gank, lest you flub

anski you know he meant a catalyst or 3... which to a hulk 400 million is not balanced but keep up that tech reimbursement policy...

That doesn't make any sense. Anything that can be killed by BCs can be killed with destroyers (and the destroyers will do it for less ISK). This is by design.

It sounds like you're asking for one of those silly level-based systems where lvl N-1 can't be used against lvl N. Fortunately, EVE isn't that kind of game.

Geez, you didn't read my full post, i said.....would be necessary to field BC's at least again to bring down a Hulk.

I was talking about BC's, as the price the gankers would have to pay to kill a 300 Million T2 Ship.

Sincerly

Andre Jean Sarpantis ( Roleplayed nephew from the Serpentis Founder )