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Lance Tyr Minmatar New Eden Logistics	Posted - 2010.11.10 15:41:00 - [1] Edited by: Lance Tyr on 10/11/2010 15:41:09 I've always wondered this. It seems it's very rare you'll find a 2003 but there are always a couple 2006's around. Personally I'm a 2005 and only hang out with a couple people I met when I first started the game. If I had to guess I'd say only 10% of the playerbase is now a 5 year old character with significant SP's (70 mill+)
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E Talos Coalition	Posted - 2010.11.10 15:49:00 - [2] 2003 and still intouch with ppl from that time.. also in corp.. Do not click this ad.
Tom Gerard	Posted - 2010.11.10 15:56:00 - [3] Killed a 5yo character last night. He joked with us later he had logistics who was so afraid to lose his ship he refused to rep and jumped gate. Older players seem.pretty cool.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.11.10 15:58:00 - [4] My main is a 2005, and everyone i know online now only started playing in the last year or two. The turnover rate is very high, and instead of trying to do something about it CCP puts all their effort into new selling points to get fresh customers in the door. I'd be interested in knowing the average time a player sticks around. My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Tado Dead Space Industries	Posted - 2010.11.10 16:06:00 - [5] I have been playing since 2003 and with the same character. Hardly any of the people I started playing with still play and if they do its mainly with a new character that they have created.
About Mesale	Posted - 2010.11.10 16:14:00 - [6] 2006 player here on a soon-to-be-inactive alt. The player demography was actually shown in one of the "recent" QEN before Tyrannis. The percentage of old characters is, or better was, rather high for an mmo. But they were still outnumbered.
crazyiven CrAzY LLC.	Posted - 2010.11.10 16:18:00 - [7] Edited by: crazyiven on 10/11/2010 16:18:46 Im not an 03 but 04 toon still playing my main, went inactive couple of months ago. They sent me a 5 day pass, more then likly will go back to being inactive...
Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts	Posted - 2010.11.10 16:44:00 - [8] 2005 guy reporting in. Still have 2 of my original 3 characters and play regualrly. 3rd original character, my miner, ended up being sold in a fit of rage when drone regions were added and mining in 0.0 lost a huge amount of its profit. -------------------------------------------- Quote: EVE-Online... Too rough for ya? Don't like it? GTFO...
Niccolado Starwalker Gallente Shadow Templars	Posted - 2010.11.10 16:48:00 - [9] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 10/11/2010 16:51:36 Originally by: Lance Tyr Edited by: Lance Tyr on 10/11/2010 15:41:09 I've always wondered this. It seems it's very rare you'll find a 2003 but there are always a couple 2006's around. Personally I'm a 2005 and only hang out with a couple people I met when I first started the game. If I had to guess I'd say only 10% of the playerbase is now a 5 year old character with significant SP's (70 mill+) Im 5 years old in 23 days. Playing one online game for half a decade.. Thats weird, but EVE feels more like "home" now rather than just a game... Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
BaldyBob Minmatar Libertas Astra Vagaris	Posted - 2010.11.10 16:54:00 - [10] August 2005 here, most of the players I know are older but know a few younger ones. I don't see a lot of turnover of older players, less frequent at logging in, probably due to those longer skills. 20M short of that 100M barrier SP wise. Money is still a little low though . I put it down to "experimentation" Perhaps we should have a "Gentlemans Club" when WIS is released, with limited access to old timers

Muad 'dib Caldari The Imperial Fedaykin	Posted - 2010.11.10 17:03:00 - [11] Im an 04 and my other acc is an 03, i dont know anyone from my earily days heck i can barly remeber their names :( I do on occasion see people from the very first few corps im in, but its rare, some even own by char transfer newbies which is always weird. here to 7 more years tbh.
Diesel47	Posted - 2010.11.10 17:11:00 - [12] Originally by: About Mesale 2006 player here on a soon-to-be-inactive alt. The player demography was actually shown in one of the "recent" QEN before Tyrannis. The percentage of old characters is, or better was, rather high for an mmo. But they were still outnumbered. If you don't want to use the alt anymore can I have it? :)
Tractus Vesica Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.11.10 17:13:00 - [13] I've only been onboard for 3, and subscription has been far from consistant. -------------------------------------------------------------- They call me crazy. I'm not one to argue.
Thrasymachus TheSophist	Posted - 2010.11.10 17:20:00 - [14] Originally by: Professor Tarantula I'd be interested in knowing the average time a player sticks around. In 2008, City of Heroes reported that the average sub length was 17 months, a number that caused them to be "pleasantly surprised". http://www.vg247.com/2008/02/14/ncsoft-europe-ceo-new-city-of-heroes-titles-planned-aion-for-q4-2008-release/ With the growth of F2P, the proliferation of options, and the "buzz" that new games create, I would venture to say that current averages are substantially lower. I believe I have heard 6-7 months bantered about for MMOs generally, although I cannot find a source atm. You might find this guy's work, esp. the Daedalus Project, interesting: http://www.nickyee.com/
Nicholas Barker Diabolus Ex Machina	Posted - 2010.11.10 17:45:00 - [15] 6 years 2 months i think. Quit a while back for 4 months, had large amounts of time spent doing nothing because game is boring but stuck around in hope it'll get better. Lots of fun with current corp though. ------ 0800-LAG-A-NODE
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.11.10 17:54:00 - [16] It's quite a few old players still active in game.
andynoble Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.11.10 19:38:00 - [17] 2004 for me, though i havn't played much this year
Cruachan Argylle z research	Posted - 2010.11.10 19:41:00 - [18] Originally by: Mashie Saldana It's quite a few old players still active in game. Like that list makes any sense at all. Pointless.
Terrax Norik	Posted - 2010.11.10 19:45:00 - [19] Originally by: Professor Tarantula I'd be interested in knowing the average time a player sticks around. Been stated several times over the years to be about 7 months.
Ankh Minmatar Angel Constellation	Posted - 2010.11.10 19:46:00 - [20] 2003 here. Have kept my character active without a break, but only play casually these days. Most of my old-time colleagues have disappeared but a few seem to keep coming back into the game for a while, we catch up then they disappear again.

Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.11.10 19:57:00 - [21] Originally by: Cruachan Argylle Originally by: Mashie Saldana It's quite a few old players still active in game. Like that list makes any sense at all. Pointless. You mean the part where it shows that it currently is over 3000 active accounts that are 5+ years old in a sample of 23500?
Cruachan Argylle z research	Posted - 2010.11.10 20:01:00 - [22] Edited by: Cruachan Argylle on 10/11/2010 20:02:27 Originally by: Mashie Saldana Originally by: Cruachan Argylle Originally by: Mashie Saldana It's quite a few old players still active in game. Like that list makes any sense at all. Pointless. You mean the part where it shows that it currently is over 3000 active accounts that are 5+ years old in a sample of 23500? I mean that I am not on it, and I can think of at least 10 others who are not on it, and should be. So - very incomplete = pointless. edit: its like the rich list that appeared here recently, which more or less says that 5 bill gets you into the top 100 - pointless.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.11.10 20:03:00 - [23] Originally by: Cruachan Argylle I mean that I am not on it, and I can think of at least 10 others who are not on it, and should be. Hey, numbskull, do you have any idea how that site works ? Let me explain it to you : YOU have to ADD YOURSELF there, by entering a valid limited API key. So of course "Cruachan Argylle" is not on it if you haven't manually added him. Quote: So - very incomplete = pointless. You fail statistics forever.
Gecko O'Bac H A V O C Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2010.11.10 20:06:00 - [24] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Cruachan Argylle I mean that I am not on it, and I can think of at least 10 others who are not on it, and should be. Hey, numbskull, do you have any idea how that site works ? Let me explain it to you : YOU have to ADD YOURSELF there, by entering a valid limited API key. So of course "Cruachan Argylle" is not on it if you haven't manually added him. Quote: So - very incomplete = pointless. You fail statistics forever. Dammit =/ I was going to do just that but the login got me =/ Anyway, 5 years in some days for me as well. Don't remember the exact date.
Cruachan Argylle z research	Posted - 2010.11.10 20:07:00 - [25] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Cruachan Argylle I mean that I am not on it, and I can think of at least 10 others who are not on it, and should be. Hey, numbskull, do you have any idea how that site works ? Let me explain it to you : YOU have to ADD YOURSELF there, by entering a valid limited API key. So of course "Cruachan Argylle" is not on it if you haven't manually added him. Quote: So - very incomplete = pointless. You fail statistics forever. Self reporting statistics? oh come on Do you work for a political action group?
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.11.10 20:08:00 - [26] Originally by: Akita T You fail statistics forever. TVTropes eats your soul, you know that right? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Lord Evangelian Gallente LEAP Corp	Posted - 2010.11.10 20:27:00 - [27] 2006 and proud of it! It was my fourth birthday two months back! The White Mantle \| Inactive on Forum since 20:38 on Feb 9th 2009
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.11.10 20:34:00 - [28] Originally by: Cruachan Argylle Self reporting statistics? oh come on Do you work for a political action group? Because the one most important reason for people to go up on eveboard is to show off their pilot age, *RIGHT* ? Older people have an incentive to go up there for bragging rights or to have characters sold, but after a character gets sold the API changes, so the new owner would have to put it up again. Older people might also be paranoid about having their stats publically visible and be unaware they can hide them. Relatively newer people have much more of an incentive to use eveboard, so that other more knowledgeable players can direct them to whatever skills they should train next, but then again, quite a few really new people don't even know about the site (but somebody will eventually point it out to them). So, if anything, the list is probably slightly more likely to be biased AGAINST older characters. The most likely scenario however is that the list is not significantly biased towards any specific EVE age group. _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Ghoest	Posted - 2010.11.10 20:38:00 - [29] The people at the start arent here any more. Of course I quite a few times myself over the years. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Lance Tyr Minmatar New Eden Logistics	Posted - 2010.11.10 20:42:00 - [30] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Originally by: Cruachan Argylle Originally by: Mashie Saldana It's quite a few old players still active in game. Like that list makes any sense at all. Pointless. You mean the part where it shows that it currently is over 3000 active accounts that are 5+ years old in a sample of 23500? So if that was an accurate representation of the larger EVE community that would be right around 12%. I was close in guessing then :P

Cruachan Argylle z research	Posted - 2010.11.10 20:43:00 - [31] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Cruachan Argylle Self reporting statistics? oh come on Do you work for a political action group? So, if anything, the list is probably slightly more likely to be biased AGAINST older characters. Slightly? nm, i'll leave the field with my original comment - pointless lists that obscure the truth rather than bringing it into focus. good luck
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2010.11.10 20:44:00 - [32] I'll be five in about a month. I've taken a two couple month breaks, about 10 of the people I met in my first corp are still around. The Real Space Initiative - V6 (Forum Link)
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2010.11.10 20:44:00 - [33] Wish my original hadnt of been stolen from me, he was a 2004. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Bimjo Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.11.10 20:51:00 - [34] Originally by: Mashie Saldana It's quite a few old players still active in game. One thing I worked out is that I am 3 days younger than someone in the top 5 , yet I have 10 mill SP more than them , guess they took a holiday at some time !
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.11.10 20:58:00 - [35] Edited by: Akita T on 10/11/2010 21:05:16 Originally by: Cruachan Argylle nm, i'll leave the field with my original comment - pointless lists that obscure the truth rather than bringing it into focus. So, it is then somehow your claim that the percentage of now-active characters created before the year 2005 ended (3546 out of 23229 on that list, so about 15%) is noticeably lower or much higher than 15% ?!? Like, oh, say, under 10% or over 20% ? P.S. From the tone of your post, I will be assuming you want to claim something closer to the latter, namely that the percentage is higher than 20%. Well, back in late 2005 and early 2006, the game had slightly over 75k subscribers, so even if ALL of them maintained an account, given the current 350+k subscribers, that would still mean at most around 22%. For you to be right, the number of people from before 2006 that are still playing needs to be around 90%, so basically almost everybody. _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
BOBNIKER Caldari Super Friends Club	Posted - 2010.11.10 20:59:00 - [36] Playing pretty consistantly since March '04
Leksi Bar'zuk	Posted - 2010.11.10 21:34:00 - [37] Edited by: Leksi Bar''zuk on 10/11/2010 21:34:30 Early '05 arrival main here with quite a few alts at a similar age. I interact with all ages of character, but will admit that I ignore most corp and alliance chatter from members less than four years of characer age. We've got quite a few of the little runts fast-tracking into Nyx pilots these days and quite frankly it's sad they can get away with it. GET OUT OF MY ANOMS NEWBZ >_X
Scorpyn Inimical Eclipse Spectres of the Deep	Posted - 2010.11.10 21:36:00 - [38] <- 2003, but had a 3 year break.
Ultim8Evil Ministry Of Eternal Disorder	Posted - 2010.11.11 00:29:00 - [39] I created a character in 2004 and played for a bit, but I screwed up my attributes at character creation and biomassed him around xmas 2004 iirc. Decided to give EVE another try in June 2005 and apart from a bit of inactivity here and there (mostly in 2008 and 2009), I've been here ever since. Only 2-3 people still play from my past, but I was happy to find out an old RL friend I went to school with, and haven't seen for 10 years, started playing about 8 months ago. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Angelhunter Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2010.11.11 03:31:00 - [40] <---- 2003 ----------------

Brep Gallente Into The Pink	Posted - 2010.11.11 04:27:00 - [41] Jan 2004 here but I have't played all this time. 60M SP and still a noob!
Amish Caldari Sonnema	Posted - 2010.11.11 05:17:00 - [42] I'm from 14-6-2003 :-) and played Beta also. Not been very active for the last half year tho. Seen about everything i could in eve, got all the ships i wanted in that time. The old day's were better then the experience people get now. Got 122,546,072 SP and putting the last skills to at least lvl4
Myxx Gallente spurius regibus	Posted - 2010.11.11 05:29:00 - [43] Edited by: Myxx on 11/11/2010 05:29:53 < - 2005. I know of a few other 2005'ers and before that, too. They're pretty silent when it comes to forums, but they're out there. -- My opinion is my own and nothing but my own. Before putting words in my mouth, it might help to ask for clarification if you are confused.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.11.11 05:43:00 - [44] 6452. Chainsaw Plankton 2007-01-06 22:04:00 page 7 out of 24, not too bad
Famine Aligher'ri Heretic Army	Posted - 2010.11.11 06:02:00 - [45] 2004 here and still very active. On top of that, I've been a pirate for most of that time, which is pretty good considering most pirates reform. I'm happy to say I was part of one of the first real pirate alliances in EVE before the alliance system was introduced and changed everything.
Adamant Stehl hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.11.11 06:28:00 - [46] Been playing since 2005. Was also in Beta. I come and go with my main. Played many other games, but always keep comnig back to EVE. Before all else, be armed. Niccolo Machiavelli
AsaR Amarr Haggor Inc	Posted - 2010.11.11 08:58:00 - [47] Started on the first day of EvE 2003 about 3 hours after servers were up, I play a little now, mainly on an Alt but keep this char training, lots of people still playing from when I started (fountain was a great place to meet people in the first year) still however most are involved in big 0.0 warfare and I personally been out of that for 2-3 years because of lack of time. Now I spend my days playing mainly solo because my play time is not the same it was 7 years ago ---------- ----
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.11.11 09:54:00 - [48] I started in 2003 and I've managed to remain constantly subbed. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Lump Hammer	Posted - 2010.11.11 10:09:00 - [49] Players are one thing - corps disappear too. I guess there are more old corps around because the CEO can hand over... Some classic ones are now just a memory though. Remember mOo?
FeralShadow Black Storm Cartel The Orca Syndicate	Posted - 2010.11.11 10:21:00 - [50] 2005 and still goin _______________________________________________ "If you want to taste the ground, feel free to attack." - Kenshin Himura

Twiagon	Posted - 2010.11.11 11:47:00 - [51] Originally by: Rodj Blake I started in 2003 and I've managed to remain constantly subbed. The same.
the animator Caldari Comrades in Construction	Posted - 2010.11.11 11:48:00 - [52] 2003 Player checkin in here. I still see quite a few ppl log on from when i first started playing, :) null
Manipulator General o.0	Posted - 2010.11.11 12:29:00 - [53] 14%
Roga Dracor Caldari Starfire Oasis Infinite Conflux	Posted - 2010.11.11 13:07:00 - [54] <--- 2005 One long break during the days of lag so stupid I can't bring myself to pay for it..
Brian Ballsack	Posted - 2010.11.11 13:57:00 - [55] Since 2005 me, i notice a couple of folks posting here on chars that definatley were not theirs 5 years ago !!! :P Most of the chars over five years will only have about half the possible SP dues to starting and stoppping their subs i suspect.
Nick Curso Diabolus Ex Machina	Posted - 2010.11.11 13:58:00 - [56] /me gets out his walking stick. 2003 here and my corp is full of em! Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Kendar Gallente 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.11.11 14:00:00 - [57] 2003 here and there is a bunch of old grumpy ones in my alliance
Pookie McPook	Posted - 2010.11.11 14:07:00 - [58] Edited by: Pookie McPook on 11/11/2010 14:08:04 '06 but only 23m SP due to several prolonged absences. Therein lies the rub, EvE is very forgiving to players who join, leave, rejoin, etc etc. There's always something worth coming back to imo. ----- Don't ping my cheese with your bandwidth.
Suleiman Caldari Super Friends Club	Posted - 2010.11.11 15:28:00 - [59] <---2003. Lost about a year training time though, month here, 2 months there....etc.
Jorund Bork Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.11.11 16:04:00 - [60] <-------- 2003 and subbed all that time, though not very active at some points. Also got a 2003 alt that originally belonged to an rl friend for a year or two

Pakalolo Tha Shiznit	Posted - 2010.11.11 16:15:00 - [61] someone told me there was cake in here
Gallactica Gallente Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2010.11.11 16:31:00 - [62] 2003 here too (107 mil sp), never really had a break and seem to online more in the last 12 months than i ever have been. Have about 3-4 other people in my corp from 2003 too.
Stupid McStupidson Gallente Hoek Lyne and Sinker	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:16:00 - [63] Not quite there, but my main will be 5 in a little over a month. Only a handful of the people I ran with back then are still around. Everything tends to get boring when done repetitively. I think a significant portion is also just getting older, and having more RL obligations.
Sha Kharn Minmatar Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:20:00 - [64] 2003 here Account has been active for the duration but i have suffered eve burn out at random points for random durations (longest was about 6 months). Since 2003 I have learnt itÆs possible to become so bitter within eve that you come out the other side.
Angelhunter Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:38:00 - [65] Originally by: Nick Curso /me gets out his walking stick. 2003 here and my corp is full of em! And its still all your fault
mirel yirrin Gallente Ore Mongers BAT PHONE	Posted - 2010.11.11 18:00:00 - [66] September 2004 checking in ---------------------------------
Shaemell Buttleson Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.11.11 21:02:00 - [67] Edited by: Shaemell Buttleson on 11/11/2010 21:02:02 2003 here and Sha Kharn summed it up. * Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. - CCP Ildoge
Falke	Posted - 2010.11.11 21:06:00 - [68] may 2003and did not like Mo0 or RUS
Mangold Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2010.11.11 21:29:00 - [69] Originally by: Amish I'm from 14-6-2003 :-) Not been very active for the last half year tho. Seen about everything i could in eve, got all the ships i wanted in that time. The old day's were better then the experience people get now. Date Of Birth 2003.06.12 18:47:00 What he said.
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.11.11 21:41:00 - [70] Originally by: Mashie Saldana It's quite a few old players still active in game. Ooooh, I'm number 78. Kinda odd it shows my character birth being 4 days after launch like that though, I started on day 1. Actually there were a lot of people who started on day one that had their start day bugged later on. If you look up my employment history, I don't actually have a starting NPC corp listed either... Once got asked if I was a Dev because of that. Definately need to go bug number 79, Walkin. He was a director in my corp for many years.

Xtreem Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.11.11 22:14:00 - [71] 2003 and 2004 chars here.


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