nobody's complaining about the game being "dumbed down"

people are unhappy, however, about hisec slowly being turned into a consensual PvP-only "safe area"

nobody's complaining about the game being "dumbed down"

people are unhappy, however, about hisec slowly being turned into a consensual PvP-only "safe area"

and? if u want pvp, invade other regions, keep ur damn noses out of high sec

stop trying to force high sec players to pvp non stop when they have no interest in it

end of

stop giving this crap *ccp are making HIGH SECUIRTY SPACE SAFE crap*

and? if u want pvp, invade other regions, keep ur damn noses out of high sec

stop trying to force high sec players to pvp non stop when they have no interest in it

Why should they when highsec is a pvp region too?

If they have no interest in it, they shouldn't undock.

if you don't want to PvP, take active measures to avoid it rather than feeling entitled to absolute safety

That does't fly, that same old excuse has been used non stop by pvpers, eve is not just about pvp, then sooner u realise it the better

Real pvpers dont do that

dont play the *dont undock, eve is pvp* crap

If you want to kill someone in hi-sec you play by their rules, if they stay in hi-sec and remain in a npc corp they have taken active measures to protect them self. Still even if you use the rules of the game to you advantage, you are not 100% safe, you can't just fill a T1 industrial with 10B cargo and fly to jita.

There is a difference between not being able to gank players, and being able to gank anyone at any time.

lmao that's not an "active measure"

an active measure is using a scout, a ship more suitable than a goddamn badger to haul 10b in cargo and not autopiloting like an idiot

and yes, if some idiot is flying a badger with 10b in cargo, he should be robbed blind with his cargo flown by a smarter, more competent person to jita for sale

GǪexcept that everything in the game is PvP, and highsec is not GÇö and isn't intended to be GÇö some magic area where that rule doesn't apply.

So now youre saying "proper gameplay" requires you to have scout alts and armored-to-teeth combat ships manually piloting through high-security space? Why? Because the mighty goonscrub wants it this way?

If there is an autopilot function in the game, its legit to use it. If there is a badger hauler in the game, its legit to use it.

How come youre so concerned with newbies in high-sec? Youre big mouthed Delve e-peen fest didnt go so well? Insecure much? Show us on a doll where the girls never touch you.

That does't fly, that same old excuse has been used non stop by pvpers, eve is not just about pvp, then sooner u realise it the better

NULL SEC AND LOW SEC is big enough for all of you to pvp in non stop, get a gang, go into another region and pick a fight, you dont, why? because its not easy. You want safety in kills and stations to fall back to

Real pvpers dont do that and the bc kb sheet shows the real pvpers from the cowards who need empire stations to hide in soon as the enemy fights back

You want high sec to kill expensive ships and kill noobs to boost your kill stats, not because it has any real meaning behind it

dont play the *dont undock, eve is pvp* crap, because its not just pvp otherwise we wouldnt need industry and ccp would just seed all ships and mods on the market for set prices, wh's wouldnt exist and neither would starbases for moon mining

Get over yourselfs

So now youre saying "proper gameplay" requires you to have scout alts and armored-to-teeth combat ships manually piloting through high-security space?

If there is an autopilot function in the game, its legit to use it.

Its not really a magic area, but rather an area intended to be safer for the direct benefit of ensuring an economy exists to feed the rest of the games primary activity which is PvP.

If High Sec wasn't safer PvP would be literly impossible anywhere because in part the largest population of Eve (the majority) are people livining in High Sec avoiding PvP participating in creating the economy that makes PvP everywhere else possible.

Funnily enough, PvP is the primary activity in highsec as well.

It is legit.You're not going to be banned for using the auto-pilot. You are, however, choosing to expose your cargo more than you have to, and you only have yourself to blame for this choice. It's legit in the same way as armour-tanking a Drake is legit: an available option, but really really dumb.

Hence the patches to curve just that.

Hence the patches to curve just that. See now we are connecting things, funny how that works.

So now youre saying "proper gameplay" requires you to have scout alts and armored-to-teeth combat ships manually piloting through high-security space? Why? Because the mighty goonscrub wants it this way?

If there is an autopilot function in the game, its legit to use it. If there is a badger hauler in the game, its legit to use it.

How come youre so concerned with newbies in high-sec? Youre big mouthed Delve e-peen fest didnt go so well? Insecure much? Show us on a doll where the girls never touch you.

also since hisec should be safe from all nonconsensual PvP I guess the risk/reward balance should be looked at, i.e. removing hisec incursions, l4s and exploration sites