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Wu Jiaqiu
Minmatar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.11.11 19:15:00 -
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Wat happen here? How is sov lost?
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Haniblecter Teg
Gallente F.R.E.E. Explorer The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.11.11 19:21:00 -
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I think they were in a kneeling position, then 'rolled over' 180 degrees. ----------------- Friends Forever |

Whalles Bloomfield'III
Caldari Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.11.11 19:44:00 -
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Its so funny. I remember loads of smack talk about how **** -A- and ROL where for losing their space after holding them for 2 years. Dead Terrorists are super kewl doods as they held on to them for ALMOST 2 weeks. GF come back next time. We like the green walls on KB.
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Lykouleon
Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust
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Posted - 2010.11.11 19:45:00 -
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They had a premature detonation at a training camp vOv
Quote: Lord Makk > Our pilots are masochist buttjockey
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.11.11 20:50:00 -
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Any spies got access to my alliance forums so they can tell me what's going on?
Please resize your signature to no more than 120 x 400 pixels. - Adida Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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aeoluse
Gallente Madhatters Inc. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.11.11 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Whalles Bloomfield'III Its so funny. I remember loads of smack talk about how **** -A- and ROL where for losing their space after holding them for 2 years. Dead Terrorists are super kewl doods as they held on to them for ALMOST 2 weeks. GF come back next time. We like the green walls on KB.
If they came back (or someone equally as rubbish or led by rmfhorus) can we kiss and make up and kick the living poop out of them instead of having them show up on the map and bringing the whole region into disrepute and lowering the house prices? It's like having an extended family of chav's moving in down the street, not good for the neighbourhood.
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Swearte Widfarend
Gallente Royal Enterprise Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.11.11 21:08:00 -
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Really want to say something like "well, we aren't the ones who paid PL to get us space" oh wait, I did - but should have just said this:
Sometimes, you overextend. If you are smart, you realize it before you get hurt too much. DT went from a lowsec combat alliance to a recognized player in the fringes of the North, to sov holders in Cloud Ring all in about 6 months - a steady path of growth. Then from a small alliance with 3/4 systems in Cloud Ring to a bloated alliance holding every station and most systems in Feythabolis in about a month. Too much growth and change too soon led to the slow bleed of older corps and members. Recognizing the choice between surviving or continuing the slow death, we chose to survive.
At least, that's what I tell myself at night, as I look at my assets in Feythabolis. But hey, we were always fail, right? After all, only goons and TESTies get to leeroy suicide fleets and call it fun - anyone else is fail. 
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Dr Cheeto
Minmatar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.11.11 21:19:00 -
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We overextended ourselves as well, recently. Who knew that we'd only have the manpower to hold on to our chunk of Delve for five hours?
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Pony Tail
Caldari Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.11.11 21:39:00 -
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I miss delve.... :*(
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Greenruby
Amarr Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.11 23:35:00 -
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Ill miss killing those DT in their T1 fit battleship fleets up north!
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Rainbow Blade
Caldari PROGENITOR CORPORATION
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Posted - 2010.11.11 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops Any spies got access to my alliance forums so they can tell me what's going on?
TLDR:
Alliance leader decided to move to low sec to regroup a failing alliance INIT once again back stabbed another friend and camped your bridges
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.11.11 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Rainbow Blade
Originally by: General Windypops Any spies got access to my alliance forums so they can tell me what's going on?
TLDR:
Alliance leader decided to move to low sec to regroup a failing alliance INIT once again back stabbed another friend and camped your bridges
WHAT?!?!? Are you serious? That's HORRIBLE...
Please resize your signature to no more than 120 x 400 pixels. - Adida Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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Needa3
Minmatar BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2010.11.11 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Swearte Widfarend Really want to say something like "well, we aren't the ones who paid PL to get us space" oh wait, I did - but should have just said this:
Sometimes, you overextend. If you are smart, you realize it before you get hurt too much. DT went from a lowsec combat alliance to a recognized player in the fringes of the North, to sov holders in Cloud Ring all in about 6 months - a steady path of growth. Then from a small alliance with 3/4 systems in Cloud Ring to a bloated alliance holding every station and most systems in Feythabolis in about a month. Too much growth and change too soon led to the slow bleed of older corps and members. Recognizing the choice between surviving or continuing the slow death, we chose to survive.
At least, that's what I tell myself at night, as I look at my assets in Feythabolis. But hey, we were always fail, right? After all, only goons and TESTies get to leeroy suicide fleets and call it fun - anyone else is fail. 
we still owned all of you in your homebase for like 3 weeks
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Cybarite
Gallente YARRRDIES Inc.
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Posted - 2010.11.12 00:43:00 -
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Edited by: Cybarite on 12/11/2010 00:44:07
Originally by: Rainbow Blade
Originally by: General Windypops Any spies got access to my alliance forums so they can tell me what's going on?
TLDR:
Alliance leader decided to move to low sec to regroup a failing alliance INIT once again back stabbed another friend and camped your bridges
More accurately DT recruited every scrub they could in an attempt to build numbers so they could hold feyth, destroying their core identity in the process. Then failed completely in holding space against stainwagon and planned to Evac without informing their allies, and got caught. After which their allies reset them for planning to abandon them to the wolves.
edit: how can you people not know this, my information sources are hardly discreet...
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Myz Toyou
Minmatar APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2010.11.12 00:54:00 -
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I heard that the NC is looking for a replacement for OWN 
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Batto Rem
Minmatar Task Force Zener Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.11.12 00:55:00 -
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Edited by: Batto Rem on 12/11/2010 00:58:29 in short DT stopped being active. My guess is Red and -A- will take over DT and C02 soon because DT and Circle of 2 are nothing without PL. I dont know how Initiative will fair without PL but we will see
Also I am hoping Red will kick WN out of their home. And please for the love of everything dont let the traitor corp that left Red to join WN back in
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Czeris
Caldari Bad Kitty Inc. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.11.12 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Cybarite Edited by: Cybarite on 12/11/2010 00:44:07
Originally by: Rainbow Blade
Originally by: General Windypops Any spies got access to my alliance forums so they can tell me what's going on?
TLDR:
Alliance leader decided to move to low sec to regroup a failing alliance INIT once again back stabbed another friend and camped your bridges
More accurately DT recruited every scrub they could in an attempt to build numbers so they could hold feyth, destroying their core identity in the process. Then failed completely in holding space against stainwagon and planned to Evac without informing their allies, and got caught. After which their allies reset them for planning to abandon them to the wolves.
edit: how can you people not know this, my information sources are hardly discreet...
Quoted for accuracy. Also +1 for being concise and to the point, in English.
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
Gallente 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.11.12 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: Batto Rem Edited by: Batto Rem on 12/11/2010 00:58:29 in short DT stopped being active. My guess is Red and -A- will take over DT and C02 soon because DT and Circle of 2 are nothing without PL. I dont know how Initiative will fair without PL but we will see
Also I am hoping Red will kick WN out of their home. And please for the love of everything dont let the traitor corp that left Red to join WN back in
i just find it kind of funny or ironic widot saying someone else is nothing without xx.
alas it is our lot in life to have competent and dedicated enemies, would that i could have easy pickings such as the nc, but nooooo 500 angry russians at my door every day. ------
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Evanga
Amarr Trust Doesn't Rust
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Posted - 2010.11.12 07:12:00 -
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We miss your emo ranting in Alliance chat Lilan and Butters :D
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TZeer
Caldari BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2010.11.12 08:45:00 -
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Originally by: Swearte Widfarend But hey, we were always fail, right?
yes, yes indeed.
So when you gonna go kill White Noise?
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2010.11.12 08:45:00 -
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Originally by: Evanga We miss your emo ranting in Alliance chat Lilan and Butters :D
Wow I'm sure they miss having to carry UK water too 
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Meno Theaetetus
Gallente Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.11.12 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver
Originally by: Batto Rem Edited by: Batto Rem on 12/11/2010 00:58:29 in short DT stopped being active. My guess is Red and -A- will take over DT and C02 soon because DT and Circle of 2 are nothing without PL. I dont know how Initiative will fair without PL but we will see
Also I am hoping Red will kick WN out of their home. And please for the love of everything dont let the traitor corp that left Red to join WN back in
i just find it kind of funny or ironic widot saying someone else is nothing without xx.
alas it is our lot in life to have competent and dedicated enemies, would that i could have easy pickings such as the nc, but nooooo 500 angry russians at my door every day.
Your alliance's diplomatic skills are unbounded, unlike your funny and ironic ex allies widot.
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Xybex
Gallente GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.12 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Whalles Bloomfield'III Its so funny. I remember loads of smack talk about how **** -A- and ROL where for losing their space after holding them for 2 years. Dead Terrorists are super kewl doods as they held on to them for ALMOST 2 weeks. GF come back next time. We like the green walls on KB.
I don't remember anyone ever, ever, ever saying DT were any good. But ya it was pretty funny when they were winning.
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Swearte Widfarend
Gallente Royal Enterprise Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.11.12 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Xybex I don't remember anyone ever, ever, ever saying DT were any good. But ya it was pretty funny when they were winning.
Do you remember the initial GS reform in Cloud Ring from last winter? And the mixed Ev0ke/CH/DT fleets that drove you out?
We may not be any good, but we took your space - when you actually were paying for it.
As for the BE guys, you are very good at what you do. I'm not denying that. I'm also not on your kb as a victim in Feyth - only as a killer -- admittedly only once tho...
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Andrejs L
Caldari INGEN Industries Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2010.11.12 15:15:00 -
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DT killed my rifter....... Sandbox thing happened. i wwruined them
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Tyby
Gallente SPORADIC MOVEMENT The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.11.12 15:40:00 -
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copy paste from shc:
Quote: DT has now evacuated feythabolis and are back to their "roots" because it's best there. Anyway here are some inside scoops of what exactly went on.
- Medium sov holding alliance gets transformed into big invasion force without proper 0.0 sov grinding and holding experience taking on lots of corps to bloat the numbers.
- Sov grind is slow and boring nothing going on as no resistances is met all stations and systems are taken in a relative nice timeframe.
- Burn Eden starts playing with us once we have done with the sov grind and camping us in RIT and GHZ, they get some very nice kills from stupid DT members and nobody tries to launch a counteroffensive due to "Spies on ts". Anyway much love to Burn Eden for showing some proper guerilla warfare.
- Rental plan is established and many corps are in disagreement with the policy, some corps were promised high ends moons and private station systems for signing up and providing some 0.0 experience and firepower including Burning Technologies and Princeps corp. Eventually it turns out that 80 percent of feythabolis is planned to be rented out whilst DT will hold all station systems via Dead Holdings, eventually systems are rented out to corps within DT. - Stainwagon strikes back and hard with the titan kill of co2 and EAK whom jumped in to many supercaps and too little support just to take out a few SBU's. Lot's of battles ensue and the AZN ping pong starts.
- DT Fc's and top are apparently clueless of how to hold space and make it as hard as possible for the enemy to grind through it, numbers start declining and DT is told to get it's act up. By now several corps have left due to low morality/mediocre fc's/promises not fulfilled.
- Fights continue until apparently DT lead is tired of it (following initiative convo that DT should get it's act into gear) and EAK informs 2 corps to move stuff out of feyth for a total evac, other corporations within DT are not informed. This information is leaked and Initiative gets word via evenews24 about this and sets DT neutral. DT makes an arrangement with ROL to give all stations to them for safe passage splitting up DT permanently.
- Good fights in low-sec and back to roots now ensue This is roughly what happened and what caused the breach of trust within DT leading to it's downfall, it was a bit like agression mkII but even faster and with less drama. The ride was fun as long as it lasted go some nice killmails along the way Smile Honourable mentions: - DT jumping all the way back to cloud ring with capitals to save a supercap in building from the goons/test but fails and sits in a pos watching as the supercap pos is destroyed. - Countless mentions of how good we are at pvp and stainwagon is made of fail, yet DT peforms mediocre at best. - Terrorist fit carriers with armour tanked chimera's, works in theory but the lag and amount of damage make these spider tankers completely worthless. - At the end of the campaign 25 million markup's are being made on drake's by the JF pilots just to make a quick buck, selling fitted drakes for 60-65 mil. - DT capitals hot-dropped after Initiative hears of the internal backstab and starts killing of escaping carriers.
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Lykouleon
Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust
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Posted - 2010.11.12 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: RuleoftheBone
Originally by: Evanga We miss your emo ranting in Alliance chat Lilan and Butters :D
Wow I'm sure they miss having to carry UK water too 
:elitefleetcommand:
It was Koolaid, not water...get it right 
<3 Truly Dumb and ******ed
Quote: Lord Makk > Our pilots are masochist buttjockey
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.11.12 20:51:00 -
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Serious post. I personally blame rmfhorus or whatever his name is for going out and doing so much desperate recruiting. He bloated DT far too fast, without even a modi****of quality control.
Please resize your signature to no more than 120 x 400 pixels. - Adida Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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Marwa Jita
Caldari A-Fission Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.12 23:40:00 -
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real story is here http://evebattles.com/sov_blocks/initiative/dt-explains-botched-evacuation
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Cer'ana
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.11.13 02:32:00 -
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Red.Overlord repaying their debt to the terrorists for failed soviet afghan invasion in the 80's.
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