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Vegeta
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Posted - 2005.01.09 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: Vegeta on 09/01/2005 19:46:52
We all know of the untimely 'partial disbandment' of the Curse Alliance. Within both corporations and alliances you have key-members who keep things running, if you lose those members you can say good bye to your organization, whatever it might be.
That however, has little to do with the rest of this post.
What I'm really worried about is the lack of alliance wars going on at the moment. Maybe it's just me and the fact that I'm pretty much inactive as a PVPÆer at the moment but I think we have a dilemma on our hands.
Alliances such as XETIC, FA and SA are currently the biggest in Eve. With CA, their æcommon enemyÆ gone, IÆm worried that these alliances will have freedom to do as they please in 0.0 space. These alliances are big and fat and few have the guts to stand up to them. With the only real fighting force big enough to keep them in line no longer among us (or a shadow of its former self), IÆm worried that these giants will be allowed to grow even further and become some sort of unconquerable market-governers.
Every day, week and month it becomes harder for new players and corporations within Eve to establish themselves without joining one of those 'things'. Alliances are becoming too governing, too market-cornering and too*****y in my opinion. We need more troublemakers.
Lots of corporations have crumbled because of a traitor on the inside, we need more people like that, more scammers.
We need more pirate corporations and more free-range PVP'ers. All the newbies seem to get eaten up by Celestial Horizon or some other mega-corporation and turned into mining drones promised riches in the form of Arkonor and Bistot.
They do it because it's logical, it's the smart thing to do, isn't it?
I guess I probably shouldn't be posting this, it makes little sense. I'm not even sure what my point is myself. Here is and example of the circle of ISK within Eve:
Pirate Corporation fleet vs. Alliance Fleet
Pirate corp kills 5 battleships, loses 3.
Pirate corp decides to build own ships to recover losses. Buys BPC's from alliance corp in empire space. Buys high-range ore from alliance corp in empire space. The pirate corp might have saved a little money by making the ships themselves, but they just handed the alliance a whole lot of cash too. (insurance cash)
Alliance recieves money from pirate corp and uses mined minerals to recover losses.
Result: Alliance gains a whole-lot of cash. The alliance have the most players and the most money flows through them.
My point:
The only way we can really hurt the alliances is if we go into their space and POP THEIR FREAKING ARKONOR ROIDS (this is a kickable offence within XETIC).
Thank you.
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Leno
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Posted - 2005.01.09 19:43:00 -
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uh huh...
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Daakkon
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Posted - 2005.01.09 19:47:00 -
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nice post...
but for example you go into xetic space with a friend you kill those mining drones over and over till they get fed up and quit mining or move elsewhere
even though xetic is rich beyond belief why not make alliances lives harder and blowup their miners for example?
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Hakera
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Posted - 2005.01.09 19:53:00 -
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I think it'll give Evol, m0o, Shinra, VOTF & so on a new purpose in life to make sure the fat cats dont get too fat. The galaxy needs chaos, mayhem and anarchy, peaceful coexistance and fun 24 hour mining just isn't cricket.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2005.01.09 19:54:00 -
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I think this is the calm before the storm. You'r absaloutley right tho Vegeta. But give it some time, it's only been a week since the big guns left the CA. Politics will alter, someone will slip up, the balance will be lost.
Politically this is a very interesting time now, one that will be the beging of the next page in the history of eve. I see the west and the south being a potential area for another large conflict. Fountain and NORAD will be especially worried at the momment. Already BoB have threatend them. Stain and Xetic will recouperate for the momment, but their pvp'ers will soon get bored and im guessing could turn their attention over to Fountain. Sounds ridiculous i guess, but you never know really.
I think you overlooked BoB's ability to cause havoc also. Their a tornado in a sense, and could choose one of the remaining powers as it's next piece of entertainment.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.09 19:56:00 -
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The major alliances cant just do what they please. I think you dont see the power of raid attacks, of corporations binding, making friends and stuff.
On paper, you are right. But friendships isnt to be defined on paper.
So in reality, you are not even close to it.
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OMGWTFHAX
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Posted - 2005.01.09 20:25:00 -
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in my opinion there are too many 'trouble makers'
BoB is such a threat now that they r unstoppable...nothing left in eve can stop them...so alliances are being bent by them. |
Stain ALT
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Posted - 2005.01.09 20:30:00 -
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 Originally by: OMGWTFHAX
in my opinion there are too many 'trouble makers'
BoB is such a threat now that they r unstoppable...nothing left in eve can stop them...so alliances are being bent by them.
lol, sure
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Sun Wu
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Posted - 2005.01.09 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: OMGWTFHAX
in my opinion there are too many 'trouble makers'
BoB is such a threat now that they r unstoppable...nothing left in eve can stop them...so alliances are being bent by them.
1: We're just a bunch of carebears and cAKe friends, your average miners...
2: I don't think we're bending any alliances, but we do seem to have bent you far enough to make an alt to post your opinion, my iteron V must really have mystical powers.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.01.09 20:31:00 -
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Calm before the storm?
Gods, no...just a short respite between cataclysms.
There are now more rowing bands of PvPers in EVE than ever before. And they are big enough to challenge the major alliances (and I'm talking XETIC, SE and FA here).
Knowing a bit about the political landscapes of the moment, I know that peace is the last thing you need to worry about right now.
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Sundri Elaption
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Posted - 2005.01.09 20:35:00 -
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lol Sun Wa this time it is not an alt posting :P
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belzebub1
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Posted - 2005.01.09 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade
The major alliances cant just do what they please. I think you dont see the power of raid attacks, of corporations binding, making friends and stuff.
On paper, you are right. But friendships isnt to be defined on paper.
So in reality, you are not even close to it.
I belive you are quite right. By the way nice battle today. We all had some fun 
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Mordachai Ma'tak
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Posted - 2005.01.09 20:48:00 -
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I, for one, will keep trying to kill as many alliance ships as possible. You just handed me the perfect excuse :)
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Riddari
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Posted - 2005.01.09 20:49:00 -
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Uhu. We be the big bad Celestial Horizon man!
As I said, this is more than ever a time of chaos, not of stability.
This is the calm before the storm. Everytime someone complained that the alliances were all just pushing the WIN button, something happens.
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Diamond Dog
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Posted - 2005.01.09 21:08:00 -
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Jei.. some time off to finally have any isk..
I can't see SE ever monopolising the empire market really
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.01.09 21:37:00 -
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Considering the amount of people playing this game for the fights, I don't think there is anything to worry about.
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Hitman2120
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Posted - 2005.01.09 21:41:00 -
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Edited by: Hitman2120 on 09/01/2005 21:41:18
It's the calm before the storm... and one hell of a storm i think it'll be.
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.01.09 21:47:00 -
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the vacancy that curse left amongst the powerplay of eve will be occupied any time soon. who and when, we don't know.
it's impossible to have a monopolar game, considering all the alliances that are out there, so we might see smth rising amongst the CA ashes.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.01.09 22:20:00 -
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Current situation is not peace yet. There are still fights going on and ships lost. I don't believe war will ever be over 
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Eleese
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Posted - 2005.01.09 23:13:00 -
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The day we found out "we won" for lack of better phrase the war... alot of us were sad no one left to fight. You'd think after so long fighting and the drive to win and kill the ca we'd be happy but frankly i was ****ed how boring would eve be if we all mined all day every day. it would frankly blow and it would be the end of Eve and ccp wouldnt let that happen :)
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Guderian
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Posted - 2005.01.09 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Wu
Originally by: OMGWTFHAX
in my opinion there are too many 'trouble makers'
BoB is such a threat now that they r unstoppable...nothing left in eve can stop them...so alliances are being bent by them.
1: We're just a bunch of carebears and cAKe friends, your average miners...
2: I don't think we're bending any alliances, but we do seem to have bent you far enough to make an alt to post your opinion, my iteron V must really have mystical powers.
hmm, that 'alt' just happens to be the co-author of the pvp-guide you chumps are following in combat. PVP-guide
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2005.01.09 23:23:00 -
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i think we wil be seeing more and more corperations doing what im doing takeing the fight too the alliances in empire but thats just me 
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Erzengal
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Posted - 2005.01.09 23:45:00 -
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Anyone got a glass of water, those Amarrian newbie's never go down quite right.
CA may be breaking up, things may be changing in the EVE-Verse, but its not the end of wars.
Many of CA corps have split, some are still fighting, some are reorganizing. It is not the last we have heard from them. The cease-fires that are going around are to try and give time to sort things out.
Empires, corps, and other groups rise and fall in power, things change constantly. I wouldnt expect there to be "peace" for very long. As it is now, it is not as peaceful around here as many would think.
I would suggest you give it some time, someone will get bored and start firing. If you think there is no hope, then get organizing and setup something to contend the alliances.
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David Corbett
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Posted - 2005.01.10 00:36:00 -
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lol, Vegeta an alt, now that's rich.
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2005.01.10 00:41:00 -
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vegta is my alt
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Demian Sky
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Posted - 2005.01.10 02:52:00 -
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Quite frankly, I think BoB is going to be a substantially more difficult force to reckon with... While CA were abnoxiously denying that they were blasting whatever moved for fun, BoB is quite straight forward about the business of killing. Everyone, beware.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.01.10 03:04:00 -
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People should try and play this game to have fun once in a while and actually risk something, not nap with every1 fricking entity out there cus that's the only way you think you're alliance will survive. CA didn't die on the battlefield.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.01.10 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Guderian
Originally by: Sun Wu
Originally by: OMGWTFHAX
in my opinion there are too many 'trouble makers'
BoB is such a threat now that they r unstoppable...nothing left in eve can stop them...so alliances are being bent by them.
1: We're just a bunch of carebears and cAKe friends, your average miners...
2: I don't think we're bending any alliances, but we do seem to have bent you far enough to make an alt to post your opinion, my iteron V must really have mystical powers.
hmm, that 'alt' just happens to be the co-author of the pvp-guide you chumps are following in combat. PVP-guide
Perhaps you missed the bit where he quoted omgwtfhax, and not vegeta?
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Dr Smythe
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Posted - 2005.01.10 03:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tholarim
CA didn't die on the battlefield.
It ripped itself apart..and i cant see how one person can be blamed for the entire demise of an alliance...It takes two to tango :)
I for one will miss the raids..they gave another dimension to my game, and i totally respected the skills of CA (such as RUS and RUSH) I liked the lack of smack and the 'Business' approach to PvP they took..almost professional...I hope they declare war again :)
I for one am not laughing at the events that befalled CA..they are far from gone...and expect they will return with renewed vengance...game on!!!
Dr Smythe
Xetic grunt
OTE Elite Mining Carebear wing (TOPGUN awarded ark kills)
Occassional PvP'er (in frigs)
owns 4 BS's - for mining
RESPECT!!!!
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Naqq
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Posted - 2005.01.10 03:41:00 -
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You got my full support man, I'll do the fighting you do the mining, deal?
Just let us know..
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