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Def Antares
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Posted - 2005.01.09 21:53:00 -
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one bug fixed /feature added, two new bugs appear.
what sense does it make to give out much less implants than before shiva, so the prices skyrocket (100mil) and new players have it even more difficult to come to par? may i suggest that NPCs drop them frequently? shouldn't be that hard to implement too and would make sense to help new players get onto par.
well another deleted or locked thread, why do i even post on these forums?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.01.09 21:58:00 -
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Just release the implant-making bpo and put one of each in my hangar, plz.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Dalmont Delantee
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Posted - 2005.01.09 22:03:00 -
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No, not that...how about everyone starting with implants _and_ the BPO just so that if they die they can get new ones!! They are only small so should only cost 1 Trit..for the full 5!
Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.01.09 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dalmont Delantee No, not that...how about everyone starting with implants _and_ the BPO just so that if they die they can get new ones!! They are only small so should only cost 1 Trit..for the full 5!
Yeah but no but yeah but no but yeah but no but...........if I get the bpo first I get to make insane profit.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Sorja
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Posted - 2005.01.09 22:10:00 -
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When I began the game in last october, I got 4 different implants (+1 mind you) from my various agents, and was quite happy with that. Lost them to smartbombs (you know how it goes) and never got any other implant mission/loot.
Those who need them the more can't get them, but I think it's bugged and a fix scheduled for february or march. The dev didn't tell what year though.
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2005.01.09 22:18:00 -
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Pretty stupid comment. New players couldnt afford implants anyway, not when they were 20m. Now they have the new advanced learning if they really need it. And old players only learn worthless things anyway now (tradings nerfs anyone?).
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Lygos
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Posted - 2005.01.09 22:20:00 -
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Noticing a couple laughably crude threads on sp balancing and redistribution in this forum, I'm surprised no pirate has glumly lamented recently (or ever?) the inability to salvage sp from non-insertable, captured implants.
I doubt anyone, but me maybe, would want to lose sp, but I don't think others would mind sharing the wealth, seeing as education is one of those commodities with infinite distribution potential.
This in my view is much better than ransoming.
Also, in my view, all clones should be born with some sort of basic implant. It doesn't really do anything and fits in the memory slot. Capturing this equates about 1% of a character's sp or a max of about 100k sp.
Also, I would prefer player constructed schools to implants as way of boosting sp acquisition. I can think of a few non-laborious ways that could work but I'm not in a sharing mood. I think they might be a plausible place at which to dock when one retires for the night, either as staff or as a student.
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2005.01.09 22:32:00 -
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Implants are a LUXURY. The End.
MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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Jolly Death
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Posted - 2005.01.09 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: MOOstradamus Implants are a LUXURY. The End.
Easy to say if you sit with a huge wallet.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2005.01.09 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jolly Death
Originally by: MOOstradamus Implants are a LUXURY. The End.
Easy to say if you sit with a huge wallet.
Thats pretty much the point of luxuries. You need a big wallet to afford them, but you can live easily without them.
I don't see why everyone is moaning. Implants aren't mandatory, and not having a set isn't a big set-back.
So they're expensive, so what? Should everything be cheap and affordable? Whats the point in that? -
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Face Lifter
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Posted - 2005.01.09 23:22:00 -
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Implants are not luxury items, because they directly influence your performance in game. They are essential to competitive gaming.
It's like a bs pilot fighting a cruiser and then claiming that bs is just a luxury item.
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Magnet41
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Posted - 2005.01.09 23:29:00 -
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make implants more comon price drops.... makes the richer ppl who do pvp richer because they dont cost as much to replace  _
MadGaz > I just pwned an old lady
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2005.01.09 23:37:00 -
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Quote: Implants are not luxury items, because they directly influence your performance in game. They are essential to competitive gaming.
Clueless
MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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Face Lifter
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Posted - 2005.01.09 23:38:00 -
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can you explain why I'm clueless
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2005.01.09 23:44:00 -
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Edited by: MOOstradamus on 09/01/2005 23:45:51
Quote: can you explain why I'm clueless
In-breeding Genetic defect Wilfulness Bad luck 
I could go on and on ...
MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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Lygos
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Posted - 2005.01.09 23:54:00 -
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Edited by: Lygos on 10/01/2005 00:07:12
By all means, if there are to be some haves and some have nots, is it not Just that the have nots should have some means to revolt against the haves? Should they not be able to ply themselves against a selfsame principle by which the haves should be forced to maintain their status? Does it not deny the honor of being a Have unless this is so?
Occupying a middling position as I do, I can only presume that I would continue to maintain my station regardless of how many fields of contest were suddently viable on a daily basis. I imagine the game must progress to where one epithumia need not be matched in time and intent to that of another in order to pursue such challenge, and also that such a possibility would be seen as ordinary and workable within a more complex environment where this would not seem more unreasonable than necessary.
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.01.09 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Face Lifter Implants are not luxury items, because they directly influence your performance in game. They are essential to competitive gaming.
It's like a bs pilot fighting a cruiser and then claiming that bs is just a luxury item.
They reduce training time, they dont 'directly influence your performance in game'
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2005.01.10 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lygos Edited by: Lygos on 10/01/2005 00:07:12
By all means, if there are to be some haves and some have nots, is it not Just that the have nots should have some means to revolt against the haves? Should they not be able to ply themselves against a selfsame principle by which the haves should be forced to maintain their status? Does it not deny the honor of being a Have unless this is so?
Occupying a middling position as I do, I can only presume that I would continue to maintain my station regardless of how many fields of contest were suddently viable on a daily basis. I imagine the game must progress to where one epithumia need not be matched in time and intent to that of another in order to pursue such challenge, and also that such a possibility would be seen as ordinary and workable within a more complex environment where this would not seem more unreasonable than necessary.
*yawn*
How about cutting that crap down to 2 sentences instead of two paragraphs? I'm very sure that no chicks are having wild orgasms over your try-hard writing abilities, so spare everyone the drama, eh? -
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Bernard Normal
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Posted - 2005.01.10 00:21:00 -
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If you were born pig ignorant and stupid (mem 4 int 6) then implants feel less like a luxury and more like a mandatory requirement I assure you. Roll on +7 and Advanced Advanced Learning.
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2005.01.10 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Bernard Normal If you were born pig ignorant and stupid (mem 4 int 6) then implants feel less like a luxury and more like a mandatory requirement I assure you. Roll on +7 and Advanced Advanced Learning.
Those were my starting attributes and I'm fine without implants.
Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2005.01.10 00:36:00 -
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Edited by: MaiLina KaTar on 10/01/2005 00:36:46
Originally by: Viceroy
Originally by: Lygos Edited by: Lygos on 10/01/2005 00:07:12
By all means, if there are to be some haves and some have nots, is it not Just that the have nots should have some means to revolt against the haves? Should they not be able to ply themselves against a selfsame principle by which the haves should be forced to maintain their status? Does it not deny the honor of being a Have unless this is so?
Occupying a middling position as I do, I can only presume that I would continue to maintain my station regardless of how many fields of contest were suddently viable on a daily basis. I imagine the game must progress to where one epithumia need not be matched in time and intent to that of another in order to pursue such challenge, and also that such a possibility would be seen as ordinary and workable within a more complex environment where this would not seem more unreasonable than necessary.
*yawn*
How about cutting that crap down to 2 sentences instead of two paragraphs? I'm very sure that no chicks are having wild orgasms over your try-hard writing abilities, so spare everyone the drama, eh?
lmmfao 
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.01.10 00:52:00 -
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/emote doesn't have implants
/emote started playing on week 3 of retail
/emote competes just fine ------------------------------------------- "My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
"No, it's none of your business." |

Fuse
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Posted - 2005.01.10 01:58:00 -
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The thing of it is CCP is realy inconsistent the way they do things. A full set of implants WAS 40 million. They USE to release shield booster amplifier 1 BPOs. I'm just getting sick of their "wayward ways". I play the game like everyone else and pay for it like everyone else. If someone had the chance to acquire something so should I. It is a game and I play to win because it is competitive. I just hate being tooled in a game by the devs and their changing ideas. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |

Lygos
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Posted - 2005.01.10 02:16:00 -
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I for one don't feel that everything I have should be protected all the time. It is more interesting to have to defend ones gains, ill-gotten or not.
Simply having paid a fee to have more SP that another character is not quite as interesting as being able to say you wrested power and experience from another.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2005.01.10 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Beringe /emote doesn't have implants
/emote started playing on week 3 of retail
/emote competes just fine
Same here.
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it... |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2005.01.10 02:34:00 -
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don't get podded  --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2005.01.10 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Def Antares one bug fixed /feature added, two new bugs appear.
what sense does it make to give out much less implants than before shiva, so the prices skyrocket (100mil) and new players have it even more difficult to come to par? may i suggest that NPCs drop them frequently? shouldn't be that hard to implement too and would make sense to help new players get onto par.
well another deleted or locked thread, why do i even post on these forums?
its a player driven economy, and nothing to do with ccp
if other players place implants at a higher value than what you can afford to pay for them, then you have to consider whether having the money is more important than training a little bit faster.
_____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

Dau Imperius
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Posted - 2005.01.10 02:47:00 -
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Would be even smarter if players realized the higher priced they make things, the less people want to use them for such things as...say...PvP.
Unfortunetly, no one can accuse most eve players of being smart, especially where isk is concerned. If sense were to ever get into their heads, they'd see implants and the like would never be a problem if they stopped seling them for an arm and a leg. Replacements would be no problem to buy and demand would still be up as players go fight.
Oh well their loss, I have my implants and am training quite well.
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Kunming
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Posted - 2005.01.10 04:20:00 -
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Just think of the positive side, if u cant efford them u wont go nuts if u get podded
Intercepting since BETA |

w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.01.10 04:32:00 -
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Originally by: Dau Imperius
If sense were to ever get into their heads, they'd see implants and the like would never be a problem if they stopped seling them for an arm and a leg. Replacements would be no problem to buy and demand would still be up as players go fight..
Youre not too bright are you?
Its supply thats down, not demand.
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