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CCP Punkturis wrote:

mkint wrote:

CCP Punkturis wrote:

KIller Wabbit wrote:

Urgg Boolean wrote:

Maybe someone already asked this, but what happened to the switch to make "shift-click" windows the default? If it's there, I can't find it...

They hid it in each individual inventory window. Hash stack in upper left corner of the window.

I thought it was supposed to be a global switch in the Esc configuration space, but noooooo, they have to get their digs in.

it is a global "switch" but to make it more obvious we put in the settings for the window (if you change it in one inventory window it also changes in the other). we have window based settings in this exact place for a lot of windows. Fleet window, EVEMail, Drone window, Overview to name a few so it shouldn't be a total surprise to find settings options there.

I for one, have harder time finding settings in the esc menu all the time since there are more tabs there and a bunch of settings, but if you like to be angry about the placement of this, it's fine by me.

You see, that shows the inconsistency between how devs see the inventory versus how players see it. Players see inventory as a universal tool that is incorporated into everything they do, so they assume there should be a global setting in the escape menu.

Devs see inventory as a hammer... something you take out occasionally on your bi-annual "play EVE" day. Something you use so rarely that you'd hide the configuration for it not even in every inventory window but only "secondary" inventory windows.

No wonder it failed so badly, and continues to fail.

first of all, it's in every window, not just the secondary - not sure why you're saying different, maybe you just like to say random things that aren't true, maybe you haven't tried it out yourself.

and I think putting the settings in the window that you have open all the time says exactly the opposite of what you're saying. instead of hiding it in the esc menu where you'd configure it once (like for example UI Scaling, or take high quality screenshots) we put it in the window where you can constantly see it. I've given my reason for putting it there (both here and in my previous post), I get that you'd rather like it in some column in some tab in the esc menu and we're just going to have to agree on disagreeing where to put it.

hope you just use the setting if you like, and not, if you don't like it, regardless of where it's located.

I don't see a reason to waste more of my time to talk about a placement of a setting (since in the grand sceme of things I find it pretty minor) so this will be my final word on it.