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Herr Wilkus	Posted - 2010.11.19 10:19:00 - [1] I mean, WTF. What is this **? Ships have to literally look like their namesake now? Sounds like you are just appealing to the WOWtards out there. "Wah, my ship doesn't look anything like a Scorpion" It is goddam offensive, thats what it is. So for an encore, we are going to turn the Raven into a fricken 'bird of prey' now? Why stop there? Feeble minded bull **, CCP.
Sub Prime	Posted - 2010.11.19 10:21:00 - [2] Edited by: Sub Prime on 19/11/2010 10:21:18 a) Since when was a Raven a 'bird of prey' ? b) I find you 'goddam offensive'. c) Feeble minded bull ****, Herr Wilkus
Frankinator Caldari Havoc Violence and Chaos BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2010.11.19 10:38:00 - [3] If this is really what they were doing, then I think that a lot of ships out there may have to be renamed to different variations of the words "***** Ship".
William Cooly Sol Enterprises	Posted - 2010.11.19 11:33:00 - [4] Y'all bakers postin' in a roll thread. Originally by: Templar Dane Tanking is not a role.
Duchess Starbuckington	Posted - 2010.11.19 12:14:00 - [5] Originally by: Herr Wilkus I mean, WTF. What is this **? Ships have to literally look like their namesake now? Sounds like you are just appealing to the WOWtards out there. "Wah, my ship doesn't look anything like a Scorpion" It is goddam offensive, thats what it is. So for an encore, we are going to turn the Raven into a fricken 'bird of prey' now? Why stop there? Feeble minded bull **, CCP. Please emorage more. This is hilarious. <3 the new Scorpion. _________________________________ ROCKET STATUS: FIX IN PROGRESS...
Jai Di	Posted - 2010.11.19 12:33:00 - [6] I personally prefer the old one, mainly because it was my ship of choice for a few years and it grew on me. But I still like the look of the new, more symmetrical one.
Zayne Zacharias Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.19 13:05:00 - [7] I like the shiny, new symmetrical one. CCP found the other wing! The Scorpion was meant to look like a scorpion since 2003 (that huge tower/fin thing looked like a tail in case you missed it) so you're only a few years late in complaining. In terms of an "Encore", I'm looking forward to another large graphical update, thank you very much. It's been three years since Trinity, and a lot has changed in those three years. Carpe Noctum!
Klyst Lysander	Posted - 2010.11.19 13:29:00 - [8] Heh... lol No, please don't bring the old Scorpion back, it was ugly. Also, I do believe the ship was named AFTER its shape, not the other way 'round.
Willmahh	Posted - 2010.11.19 14:03:00 - [9] The fact that they do update the models is nice to see. Personally, i would like the Raven to get a remake that resembles more of a "Klingon 'Bird of Prey'" type ship.
Corina Jarr	Posted - 2010.11.19 14:09:00 - [10] Originally by: Willmahh The fact that they do update the models is nice to see. Personally, i would like the Raven to get a remake that resembles more of a "Klingon 'Bird of Prey'" type ship. Theres already a Caldari Cruiser that looks close to a Klingon BoP. Don't need a BS to.
Willmahh	Posted - 2010.11.19 14:24:00 - [11] Which one is that?
Corina Jarr	Posted - 2010.11.19 14:30:00 - [12] Had to look it up cause i don't fly Caldari. Its the Caracal. Not identical to the BoP, but close enough.
McDeth	Posted - 2010.11.19 14:54:00 - [13] Edited by: McDeth on 19/11/2010 14:55:02 The Caracal looks NOTHING like a bird of pray, I think you had too much blood wine my friend. PS: The new scorpion looks awesome, the only problem is that it looks so good it makes me want to use it, but its useless unless ur doing gang ECM or something, which I don't do too much of, I'm more on the solo side. But still looks damn good.
Kendon Riddick	Posted - 2010.11.19 15:01:00 - [14] Originally by: McDeth Edited by: McDeth on 19/11/2010 14:55:02 The Caracal looks NOTHING like a bird of pray isnt a caracal a type of cat?!
Jai Di	Posted - 2010.11.19 15:52:00 - [15] Edited by: Jai Di on 19/11/2010 15:53:08 Originally by: Kendon riddick isnt a caracal a type of cat?! Yeah, it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracal
Footoo Rama Gallente Beyond Control.	Posted - 2010.11.19 16:03:00 - [16] Really your going to complain about the Scorp??? Many Helios pilots suicided themselves when the model was changed for no reason from a sexy little insect/slave 1 thing to a broken legged hockey player based on the imicus hull... http://www.eveonlineships.com/eve-online-ship.php?navicrip=Z2FsbGVudGUtaGVsaW9zLTMuanBn to http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/graphics/ids/1024/1841.jpg ------- "Because the Dominix is the Chuck Norris of Eve!"
Corporal Punishment08 NosWaffle Nostradamus Effect	Posted - 2010.11.19 16:31:00 - [17] Originally by: Footoo Rama Really your going to complain about the Scorp??? Many Helios pilots suicided themselves when the model was changed for no reason from a sexy little insect/slave 1 thing to a broken legged hockey player based on the imicus hull... http://www.eveonlineships.com/eve-online-ship.php?navicrip=Z2FsbGVudGUtaGVsaW9zLTMuanBn to http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/graphics/ids/1024/1841.jpg Don't you go insulting Hockey Players now, or we will come for you in the night with our skates and hockey sticks. I just hope there's a sheet of ice leading up to your bedroom or we'll all dull our skates and then we'll have nothing to cut you with. I like the old scorpion myself, but I would have to agree with someone who alerady posted. The ship was named "Scorpion" because of how it looked. They didn't name it and then build it assymetrical. I also like the look of the new scorp hull VERY much. It's a win/win for me.
Hooligan Tool Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.11.19 17:22:00 - [18] Edited by: Hooligan Tool on 19/11/2010 17:23:15 Originally by: Footoo Rama Really your going to complain about the Scorp??? Many Helios pilots suicided themselves when the model was changed for no reason from a sexy little insect/slave 1 thing to a broken legged hockey player based on the imicus hull... http://www.eveonlineships.com/eve-online-ship.php?navicrip=Z2FsbGVudGUtaGVsaW9zLTMuanBn to http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/graphics/ids/1024/1841.jpg Wow. The Helios used to be based on the Maulus hull? That must have been awesome. My main uses the Anathema instead of the Helios because of the ugliness factor. Oh yeah ... I liked the old Scorpion model, but I like the new Scorpion hull even more. ----- Ambush. Hit and run. Gank before tank. Speed is life.
superteds	Posted - 2010.11.19 18:13:00 - [19] call me mad but i think the caracals one of the nicer looking hulls in the game v0v
Sieges	Posted - 2010.11.19 18:38:00 - [20] I like the new Scorpion and hate the new Helios.
Captain Charismatic Minmatar Honorless Internet Jerks	Posted - 2010.11.19 22:00:00 - [21] Originally by: Herr Wilkus I mean, WTF. What is this **? Ships have to literally look like their namesake now? Sounds like you are just appealing to the WOWtards out there. "Wah, my ship doesn't look anything like a Scorpion" It is goddam offensive, thats what it is. So for an encore, we are going to turn the Raven into a fricken 'bird of prey' now? Why stop there? Feeble minded bull **, CCP. No.
Herr Wilkus	Posted - 2010.11.19 22:36:00 - [22] Captain Charismatic = confirmed WOWtard that wants the Cheetah to looks like an oversized feline, and the Mammoth to look more like an extinct hairy pachyderm.
Led Zeppelin420	Posted - 2010.11.20 00:05:00 - [23] Originally by: Willmahh The fact that they do update the models is nice to see. Personally, i would like the Raven to get a remake that resembles more of a "Klingon 'Bird of Prey'" type ship. Personally Id like to see them completely redesign that beatch in every way. That thing is sooo ugly
Kendon Riddick	Posted - 2010.11.20 00:25:00 - [24] yeah change them all, it'll be like beastwars in space.
Jacob Stov	Posted - 2010.11.20 01:16:00 - [25] New Scorp ist great. A bit to much symmetry for my taste, but better the old model. And turning the Raven in some kind of BoP ? Hell yeah ! At least a non cripled wing on the left side + some antennas and other pointy stuff...
De'Veldrin Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion	Posted - 2010.11.20 01:29:00 - [26] Troll thread, troll thread, roly poly troll thread. --Vel
Drago Claw	Posted - 2010.11.20 02:13:00 - [27] Originally by: Herr Wilkus Captain Charismatic = confirmed WOWtard that wants the Cheetah to looks like an oversized feline, and the Mammoth to look more like an extinct hairy pachyderm. Leave our minmatar ships out of it, the mammoth already looks more like a battleship than the battleships do.
Headerman Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.11.20 02:25:00 - [28] I'm still hanging out for the USS Enterprise.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2010.11.20 03:05:00 - [29] Originally by: Drago Claw Originally by: Herr Wilkus Captain Charismatic = confirmed WOWtard that wants the Cheetah to looks like an oversized feline, and the Mammoth to look more like an extinct hairy pachyderm. Leave our minmatar ships out of it, the mammoth already looks more like a battleship than the battleships do. Thats because the current mammonth was supposed to be a bs hull and the phoon was supposed to be the hauler hull. For some reason they got switched but its ok I like my trashcan shaped phoon.
Valheru Meator	Posted - 2010.11.20 05:46:00 - [30] Originally by: Footoo Rama Really your going to complain about the Scorp??? Many Helios pilots suicided themselves when the model was changed for no reason from a sexy little insect/slave 1 thing to a broken legged hockey player based on the imicus hull... http://www.eveonlineships.com/eve-online-ship.php?navicrip=Z2FsbGVudGUtaGVsaW9zLTMuanBn to http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/graphics/ids/1024/1841.jpg Could agree more. Since Model change of the Helios, mine is rusting in station.
I likegirls Minmatar	Posted - 2010.11.20 06:18:00 - [31] Go hide under your bridge more.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.11.20 06:52:00 - [32] I dislike the new scorp model very much, I agree!
Aioa Planetary Assault Systems	Posted - 2010.11.20 11:03:00 - [33] Just so you know, CCP: it's only a fairly small % of people who have this mental disability that means they cannot tolerate asymmetry. The rest of us have no problem with it. No need to mess up all the ships, just to cater to a small group of people with a broken brain. Ta. --
ImmutableDark	Posted - 2010.11.20 16:09:00 - [34] I hate the new scorp model. I don't see how the new scorpion is supposed to appeal to caldari pilots at all. Why don't you start off with a ship you don't have a chance of screwing up even more i.e. the moa.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.11.20 17:39:00 - [35] Originally by: Herr Wilkus I mean, WTF. What is this **? Ships have to literally look like their namesake now? Sounds like you are just appealing to the WOWtards out there. "Wah, my ship doesn't look anything like a Scorpion" It is goddam offensive, thats what it is. So for an encore, we are going to turn the Raven into a fricken 'bird of prey' now? Why stop there? Feeble minded bull **, CCP. Because Aesthetics originated in World of Warcraft. Lol. Also Causality originated in the movie the matrix reloaded.
Tore Smith Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.11.20 17:59:00 - [36] Edited by: Tore Smith on 20/11/2010 18:03:33 the old one was **. the new one is too polished. i want my spacepixels to look industrial, edgy and raw. at least the military ones. and all of you ***ing to bring asymmetry back, shut up. edit: drunk, typo
Zantris	Posted - 2010.11.22 03:44:00 - [37] Hell no, the old Scorpion looked like total ass
The Newface	Posted - 2010.11.22 11:49:00 - [38] Im torn, the old one was not that great looking but i really hate ships that look like they were designed to look like something else. Military design is functional before pretty, imagine if the tiger tank would actually look like a.. tigerà
Sjugar	Posted - 2010.11.22 12:29:00 - [39] 1)Some random rant, backed up with: "Eve is becoming like WoW" 2)? 3)profit
Dorian Wylde	Posted - 2010.11.22 13:44:00 - [40] Ships that are named after actual animals should probably be designed with the animal in mind. You can't really shape something into a Vexor or a Zealot though, so if this bothers you that much, try flying one of the 3 races that doesn't use animals as names. And the raven does look like a bird. And the scorpion always looked like a scorpion, they just streamlined it. Idiot.
Jargo Stonecutter Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.11.22 13:55:00 - [41] No thanks, the new model is gorgeous. May you live in interresting times.
Veliria	Posted - 2010.11.22 18:00:00 - [42] IF you're gonna complain about a Caldari boat being ugly the only possible ship you should be referring to is the Moa. The Moa is from a statistics standpoint a very interesting boat (and a great gas miner) but it is so....GAAAHH! It looks like a CCP designer had a concept, didnt like it, crumbled up the concept into a paper ball, missed throwing it in the bin and then looked at the ball unwrapping itself and thought...'saaaayyyyy!'. Just mix some parts of the Ferox, Caracal and Rokh and you got a great new model for the Moa.
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2010.11.22 18:29:00 - [43] I want a Navy Scorp, just to look at it. The old one was ugly, both asthetically and scientifically. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Kraschyn Thek'athor	Posted - 2010.11.25 00:00:00 - [44] Doomsday for Armageddon BS! press evac
Penjual Sayur	Posted - 2010.11.25 08:05:00 - [45] Yes bring back the old scorp model back. Hate the new one. Also, rename moa to dinobriefcase please and the griffin to chicken.....
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2010.11.25 11:46:00 - [46] Originally by: Footoo Rama Really your going to complain about the Scorp??? Many Helios pilots suicided themselves when the model was changed for no reason from a sexy little insect/slave 1 thing to a broken legged hockey player based on the imicus hull... http://www.eveonlineships.com/eve-online-ship.php?navicrip=Z2FsbGVudGUtaGVsaW9zLTMuanBn to http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/graphics/ids/1024/1841.jpg Count me as one. I flatly refuse to fly that fugly p-o-s. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Jita mcheck	Posted - 2010.11.25 15:56:00 - [47] I have to agree with the OP. the scorp looks like it was designed to look like it's name. not named because it looks like a scorpion. I also like the old model better. But i am in the miniority. would still be nice if some ships used that model.
SomeHardLovin The Boondock Saints	Posted - 2010.11.25 18:58:00 - [48] New scopion model is cool. Leave it be. Updated Raven model is "ok" looking, but could look a little less like it was designed by some angle mad architect. All caldari ships pretty much fall into that category. Look at ships from Aliens for an example of how Caldari SHOULD look. Yes they are industrial.. yes they are grey and sort of 'purpose built', but they still look bad ass. The Rokh got that look right, for instance. So did the Transports. Helios is DAMN ugly. That Imicus hull is worthless. Get rid of it NOW. Please. It hurts my sensibilities just knowing its out there somewhere. --- Bring forth the Assault Frigate apocalypse!
Potrero Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2010.11.25 19:14:00 - [49] Originally by: Herr Wilkus Ships have to literally look like their namesake now? Looking forward to the Hurricane being redrawn as a tall, whirling, inverted cone.
Bloody Puppy Minmatar bulloxer	Posted - 2010.11.25 19:41:00 - [50] old scorpion ------------------------------------- WHY EVERYONE LOVES ME BUT NOONE UNDERSTAND ME? Albert Heinstein
Shiho Weitong Caldari Koa Mai Hoku	Posted - 2010.11.25 19:48:00 - [51] Problem with new scorp is that it's designed to look like a scorpion. That's not how you build military hardware. You make a blueprint and build the **. Then someone says: "Hmm. That kinda looks like a tiger/scorpion/leopard". Named. What military design is not: "Ooh I want a ship called a raven, build me something that looks like one." In short. Old scorp; awesome even though ugly. New scorp; completely lame, even though it looks like sex on wings. ----------- Why is it called common sense, when it's clearly very rare. I had a mind once, but alas, I seem to have forgotten where I left it. Originally by:** Tchell Dahhn You win, and thank you.
Enduros Desard's Nation Cha0s Theory	Posted - 2010.11.25 22:14:00 - [52] I too would like the old scorp back. New one looks way too polished, like something out of startrek. - This one time, at gate camp, I shot a shuttle...
Ehdward	Posted - 2010.11.27 07:22:00 - [53] Edited by: Ehdward on 27/11/2010 07:25:50 The problem with EVE's asymmetric and ugly ships is that there is no obvious function being followed by the form. If an engineer has to pick between two arbitrary designs, one aesthetically pleasing and one that looks like really bad post-modern art, all things being equal it seems like they'd choose the former. Also, the Raven already looks like both a bird and a Klingon Bird of Prey. Scale the wings down and point them down rather than horizontally. Is it really just me that sees this? Also again, who says someone can't purposely make a ship look like something? Are you the boss of Caldari State? Besides, for all you know, the dude designing the Raven was like "hey, this is starting to look very bird like. Let's go with that in the next prototype. And let's name it Raven because mythological Earth creatures are cool."
Ehrghiez	Posted - 2010.11.27 09:18:00 - [54] Edited by: Ehrghiez on 27/11/2010 09:18:33 Count your blessings. If this theory of Ship names being applied to the likeness of the ship comes true, than I'm in favor of changing the Iteron into a giant Dildo named Ron Jeremy MK5
Torrgul	Posted - 2010.11.27 10:54:00 - [55] As long as we're on the topic of changing the name of ships to fit with what they look like... The name of the thorax needs to be changed...if you need me to explain why...crawl out of your cave...
MeBiatch	Posted - 2010.11.27 18:22:00 - [56] Originally by: Corina Jarr Originally by: Willmahh The fact that they do update the models is nice to see. Personally, i would like the Raven to get a remake that resembles more of a "Klingon 'Bird of Prey'" type ship. Theres already a Caldari Cruiser that looks close to a Klingon BoP. Don't need a BS to. i was thinking more romulan war bird... since they both use micro singularities to power thier ships...
MeBiatch	Posted - 2010.11.27 18:24:00 - [57] Originally by: Kendon riddick yeah change them all, it'll be like beastwars in space. wow that would be an epic idea... Transformers MMO... you get to choose what your char looks like in robot form and what sort of Animal/machine it looks like in the other form...
WorkingOnIt	Posted - 2010.11.27 18:31:00 - [58] Why people still replying to the OP's troll.. The Scorpion looks fantastic right now, it used to suck before.. Not my opinion but the opinion of actual players not eft/forum dwellers, only problem is its use.. would rahter fly it than a raven..
Master Flakattack	Posted - 2010.11.28 02:19:00 - [59] I like the asymmetry of Caldari ships. It is part of the reason I chose to go Caldari in the first place (along with missiles and EWAR). The Scorpion, as sexy as that beast is now, is lacking some of the charm of the first one. I think a modernization of the first model would have been preferable to the new model, but I can't blame anyone for thinking that thing was ugly as hell.
Pr1ncess Alia	Posted - 2010.11.28 03:18:00 - [60] they are changing the raven? where was this said? --- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved

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