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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 04:44:00 -
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I was doing some mining in a hauler today, and Saw a Person with the word CROTCH on his name, I decided to petition it realizing it was literally pointless after-words.
So this is a topic to bring It up.
As minor as it is, I think immediate bans would be the action.
there are to many people getting away with Inappropriate Words for names and Im not sure what the Rating of Eve is suppose to be, Granted that there is none of any language Filters.
I found over 100 cases of the inappropriate nature. I think this need to be addressed even if it is small.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 04:59:00 -
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Doesn't matter this game is played by younger players. And while it is in the petitions to be reported. I stand Firm on reasoning.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 05:05:00 -
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thus is my point of addressing this.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 05:15:00 -
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Eve is for Everyone, Id hate to see a loss of player(subscriptions) to parents seeing their Child chatting to some guy named *****111 in the game.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 05:36:00 -
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no, your missing the point. its not General Language-use. and its not Teen. Eve does aim for the older community but it is for Everyone.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 05:52:00 -
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 Originally by: KaiserSoze434
It must have have been an awful long time since you've been a teen if you think they're mentally unprepared for naughty naughty language. I'm not sure if you meant to sound like a pseudo-socialist douchebag, but thats what it comes across as when you capitalize "Everyone". EVE is not for Everyone. EVE is for paying customers who's parents, if they're above recommended age but not adults, are supposed to be taking a hand in their entertainment choices. There is already a system in place to deal with it. If a name ****es you off petition it and if it's a EULA violation it will get dealt with. I certainly wouldn't hate to see CCP lose subscriptions of overly square busybodies because they don't cancel subscriptions of gritty, harsh players in their gritty, harsh mmo.
Fair argument. But the names are abusing the EULA and are still being broken. There are lines that has been laid out.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 06:05:00 -
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Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 06:05:36
whats the first thing that comes to mind when u hear the word "crotch"? and it has nothing to do with my household. Besides I didnt say anything about CROTCH being the target of this topic now did I? Inappropriate names are.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 06:32:00 -
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there are too many people getting away with Inappropriate Words for names. -there is a petition section for it. I would gladly report them. but this would just make things simpler.
Fact is, it aint funny. it is not humorous, its vulgar and it shoots the respects of this game that Other players DO have for it. -has nothing to do with me personally but about respecting the game I PLAY.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: Magnus Orin
Originally by: Gallion
Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 05:43:44
no, your missing the point. its not General Language-use. and its not just for Teens. Eve does aim for the older community but it is for Everyone.
Oh btw, I have an Eve box sitting on my desk right in front of me.
IT CLEARLY SAYS T FOR TEEN NOT E FOR EVERYBODY.
But nice try.
nice try yourself. read again what Ive said thus far.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 06:49:00 -
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That is why it is here.
there can easily be something to work into the system to kill the remain and continued use of Inappropriate names. I love playing eve, not seeing someone making a Joke of a character(within Eve gaming mechanics).
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 06:53:00 -
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Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 06:53:45
sadly, I'm doing that already. but that is kinda being lazy about it. which btw is action. -not a system.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 07:20:00 -
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Not the same system that could be implied.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 07:39:00 -
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But back to Topic. Id would appreciate it if there was an improvement on inappropriate name usage conditions. With-out an excessive use of petitions.
I Play Eve. I should not have to be flying along and see a player named Inappropriately cause they thought it would be funny. There is a line of things people should not do. Maturity Is implied not adultery.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 07:46:00 -
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Its not that hard. would take but mere hours for something to what I'm suggesting and those things are gonna happen regardless of what may or could be done now.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 07:59:00 -
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You couldve just voted No a long time ago.
It never had anything to just me. But it does include me there are many others that would think the same as both arguments continue. true the name peitions may not be excessive but then why hasnt it been done?
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 08:10:00 -
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nice, so Im ranting then? Dont think so. It is not a waste of time since it is a part of this game.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 08:45:00 -
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how so?
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 08:55:00 -
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Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 08:57:57
so Teen means be inappropriate?
I thought thats what 18+ (M+) was... (that would make it adult)This game would require Age Verification if that was the case.
This game is teen and in many cases is Language and Vulgar words usage being observed and or restricted.
So it is stupid to allow it, Since LITERALLY IT'S NOT!
Nameing Policies
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:17:00 -
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@Vaal & few others.
Your attacking me? Seriously did u not read the naming policies? Nice speech and all but your just saying that I'm wrong, and clearly I'm not, by saying that more should not be done about it and that since they are ignoring rules put up shouldn't be followed.
Stop glorifying your words. This game has its rules, And all Im doing and saying is that more can be done about the rules that are THERE ALREADY. No ones gonna quit because they cant name a character with a Profane word. Im not the only person in this game, Eve Universe that would rather not have to fly and see such inappropriate names.
There was something made very important and in Eve it can be in a word "fixed".
Being limited to 2 open-petitions doesn't make the "system" work fast at all Since they would literally have to go to each person and change it. As it states in the Policies they can Ban for it. Im not gonna quit the Game Ive probly spent well over estimated 5,000$ C.Dollars playing over the Years (since Beta). I haven't even smoked that much. So I'll mention it again. I would like to see Improvement to Either the Naming restrictions, Or Petitions for it.
Those who think Breaking EULA or TOS is fun or funny, shouldn't be playing it has rules and it fun those rules don't stop me any.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Milo Caman
Edited by: Milo Caman on 24/11/2010 11:13:29
Honestly Gallion, I can see your point, but if you really think a name is that offensive, just petition it and be on your way.
The only thing that really gets my back up is the Newbie crap the pops up now and then in player/corp names and descriptions. If they take a hard line on anything, it should be that.
Edit: N word is censored? not anymore.
Lol. I shouldnt have to be the one to petition it, It should not exist.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Carniflex
Not supported. In my opinion EVE should be rated "M". Including non filtered names, even if you .. uh ... happen to be sensitive enough to find them offensive to you. You can always go and shoot him in the face over it. In game ofc.
Sure let see if CCP will agree to making Eve-Online now mature.
while we're at it Incarna we could have half-naked character/NPC in the Medical Room.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:43:00 -
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Regardless, you're asking a lot. Just look at how bad the word filter on the forums is? This is the kind of thing that causes unnecessary problems for a number of people who *do* go with regular names.
No its not. Not hard at all.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
I find some name fastidious and showing a immature mentality but I don't think that a automated filter will resolve much.
In EVE we speak languages from all the world.
I am almost sure that the word "***ioli" (beans in Italian) will be censored by the automatic filter as the first 3 letters are an offensive term in the USA. [QED]
Filtering every possible offensive word and variations even in the principal languages would block a large number of innocuous terms.
So the most common forms should be censored automatically while the "inventive" ways to bypass the filter should be reported by the players that feel offended and speak the relevant language.
In the meantime we can treat players showing that kind of immaturity like people of their apparent mental age.
where did i mention anything about automated filtering? Cause their aint no mention of such. read up.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Milo Caman
Originally by: Gallion
No its not. Not hard at all.
So you're happy to sit down and sift through over 100,000 character names to make sure nothing's slipped through and messed up?
its more like 4mill by now. and Ive already been doing that. but being limited to "2" open petitions dosent help, not to mention it trunicate the list to max25.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 12:05:21
Originally by: Milo Caman
Originally by: Gallion
its more like 4mill by now. and Ive already been doing that. but being limited to "2" open petitions dosent help, not to mention it trunicate the list to max25.
Ah, so you *are* stupid enough to assume that CCP have the time/manpower to do that? Well, that concludes my presence on this thread.
If respect for the game I lovingly play is stupid, Then yes. Cause they wouldnt even break a sweat. But note that i didn't say Implicit such. |
Gallion
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.24 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Gallion
That is why it is here.
there can easily be something to work into the system to kill the remain and continued use of Inappropriate names. I love playing eve, not seeing someone making a Joke of a character(within Eve gaming mechanics).
I have taken this as a suggestion for a automated system, seeing how having a GM screening all the names on 300K active accounts, plus inactive accounts, plus corporations, plus alliances and keeping up to date with all the new names being added every day would have a heavy manpower cost.
-simply wrong.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 13:31:00 -
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so it's hard to change a name? or ban a person?
Im sure the complex code to retreive a single ship due to error or Faults is way more tasking then what I've already suggested. Which btw would be the very thing we're still conversing about. I can petition, they'd still have to go about it that is not automated. but if my understanding is correct be no harder then use the window search functions.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 13:54:00 -
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Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 13:56:29
you obviously you didn't read everything... crotch wasn't the target of the topic. think about the fact that im still sayin it. I know what it means and i know its not a viable word to censor but word of the sexually derogatory are. (the Aim of this topic)
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 14:03:07
Originally by: Zelot Blueice
Gallion, please QQ. This game is too advanced for you.
yeaaah ok. read naming policies bud. FyI been playing lot longer then you.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 14:06:00 -
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here i'll make it apparent.
Character and Corporation names may not: be racially or ethnically or sexually derogatory; contain profanity; suggest an affiliation with a real-life hate group or figurehead. They may not impersonate a member of the Eve Online team, S&SI staff, CS staff or volunteer corp. Alternative spellings will be viewed with the same scrutiny as traditional spellings. Names used in the game are also reserved and may not be used in whole or part. Infraction of these rules may result in a mandatory name change or ban at our discretion.
Note that the list is not all-inclusive and names that violate our rules can be changed by Customer Support staff, even if they could be inserted in the character creation process.
That QQ for ya?
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 14:09:00 -
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Not to long ago there was a campaign to end the Isk spamming. that broke EULA. this topic is no different.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 20:51:00 -
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It is not me, its the Naming Policy your attacking. I can bring it up as many time as I like as it is a Policy that MUST be read before playing the game/ creating your character.
I dont care if you hate me thats your issues. and this Is eve's By allowing inappropriate name to come in-game breaks the Naming policies that is NO different then isk spamming, for Mature Game it wouldn't be an Issue but there is a NP, and this game is Teen. Teen is ages 13+ thank you very much.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Flesh Slurper
Originally by: Gallion
It is not me, its the Naming Policy your attacking. I can bring it up as many time as I like as it is a Policy that MUST be read before playing the game/ creating your character.
I dont care if you hate me thats your issues. and this Is eve's By allowing inappropriate name to come in-game breaks the Naming policies that is NO different then isk spamming, for Mature Game it wouldn't be an Issue but there is a NP, and this game is Teen. Teen is ages 13+ thank you very much.
Sure, but you are saying someone should be banned for the word "crotch" in their name. The issue is that where you draw the line for inappropriate and what someone else might, are different, especially for a word like crotch. My parents routinely used that word throughout my childhood and I have no inclination that it is offensive at all, but someone like you believes it is. hell, I am sure your kid has heard the word "Crotch" in school countless times even before they are 13, and I highly doubt any teacher or school administrator would discipline a child saying it.
Obviously there are some words that the vast majority of people would find offensive, however for the remainder of them, I don't believe its you or CCPs job to judge their appropriateness. Just ignore it and get on with life.
No, go to the begining of this topic you missed some. and what biz do u have judging me for Elborating the NP.
NAMING POLICIES
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Flesh Slurper
Originally by: Gallion
here i'll make it apparent.
Character and Corporation names may not: be racially or ethnically or sexually derogatory; contain profanity; suggest an affiliation with a real-life hate group or figurehead. They may not impersonate a member of the Eve Online team, S&SI staff, CS staff or volunteer corp. Alternative spellings will be viewed with the same scrutiny as traditional spellings. Names used in the game are also reserved and may not be used in whole or part. Infraction of these rules may result in a mandatory name change or ban at our discretion.
Note that the list is not all-inclusive and names that violate our rules can be changed by Customer Support staff, even if they could be inserted in the character creation process.
That QQ for ya?
"Crotch":
racially derogatory: no
ethnically derogatory: no
sexually derogatory: no
contain profanity: no
suggest an affiliation with a real-life hate group or figurehead: no
impersonate a member of the Eve Online team: no
Names used in the game: no
seems ok to me..
ok, No go further back. you still missing the point. -that this is not a discussion about the word crotch. Its about he Vulgar Inappropriate names.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Flesh Slurper
what spawned your topic was the word "crotch" in someone's name, which you disliked, and petitioned. So obviously the word crotch made you so mad you wanted to get revenge and ban someone.
Sure. lets go with that you people are not very good at this anyway.
It would be my proposal to State that OPEN PETITION limit should be Raised. and the Currant inappropriate names that are in game now CAN be dealt with.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Theel Maas
Incorrect spelling, punctuation, and capitalization annoy me. I live with my disappointment in the human condition just as you should, silently. Well, usually.
Perhaps including variations of hamburger in your name should be restricted since hindu consider the cow a sacred creature. Or are we only respecting western sensibilities? Just the other day I saw cheeseburgerdeluxe or something of that nature. Add him/her/it to the list!
For some reason some people don't like being called stewardess, preferring flight attendant. Let's categorically stamp out the use of male/female based profession names since they may be considered derogatory. Oh man we can add so much to this list.
Or we could be tolerant. You're the one acting immature. Words mean what you build them up to mean. Someone told you crotch was naughty, and like the god-fearing simpleton that you are you apparently went with it. Not everyone feels the same, including plenty of parents.
Petition it. Petition all of the names mommy told you were bad. CCP will decide if she was right. This doesn't need to be here.
no. your response to attack me is Immature.
Your Ignoring the facts.
So I'll elaborate here, By denying anything Ive said during the begining of this topic the player(s) whom have attacked me with glorified words are Interested in Destroying the Rules that CCP placed, and that players whom have gotten away with this should not get punished? That is what Im seeing in every reply that has been AIMED at me.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 22:13:00 -
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your no better then Trolls by saying anything out of the topic.
Which is Somehting should be done about Inappropriate Names In-Game(which is described In their NP).
I Play Eve, and I do not attempt to break from the guidelines made and AGREED-Upon when you first start your client & game & character. (which Ill point my finger at more then 90% of you forum readers)
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 22:22:00 -
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Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 22:23:12
Troll. Read the Policies then come and say that again.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 23:14:00 -
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and your not doing the same?
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Uronksur Suth
Originally by: Gallion
and your not doing the same?
Well, lets see: I haven't actually been ranting about an issue nobody cares about, but rather chuckling at you, so I'd say not. 
sorry, wasnt clear with last post. your trolling too?
the fact that I did start this topic mean that ther are those who do care there even a few positive replies to my point. but while u "chuckle" at me. this was not the topic. 
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.25 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Griffin
Originally by: Herping yourDerp
if "words" offend a teenager they shouldn't by playing online, or games in general, well maybe they should just die. sorry but its true, its a damn word, oh i said damn, im offending you, go cry in the corner, k thanx.
So I suppose that it should be okay to run around with any name we want, using your logic, and if we don't like it, well, sucks to be us.
Or, we could be adults and realize that there needs to be some standards of decency in the game.
I think the renaming solution that we have right now is perfectly acceptable though; no need to add a ban on top of it.
Except there should be. It was part of the rules they Agreed to when the Client first installs to a computer - to follow all policies. And the renaming only take effect when a Person petitions it.
which is where Im going with this topic.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.25 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos
I find the name Gallion offensive and racist
But nice trolling
Grow up.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.25 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: Gallion on 25/11/2010 10:09:20
Edited by: Gallion on 25/11/2010 10:08:06
>.> what? seriously Im not targeting Crotch. As the topic It was the reference for the Topic.
and as for referal to the Inappropriate nothing can be said, So as such I stand by the fact having Players named (sorry Moderators) *****111 or vaginalLips. IS NOT BY ANY MEANS something that should be allowed to remain in Eve.
you guys are obviously still new to the world to understand the Term TEEN and know the differnse of MATURITY. the Devs/ccp of Eve have not a HArd time dealing with this manpower or automated. Targeting me as the joke here is not the topic. So im gonna level with those who think that what Im saying has any notions of delaying anything with eve's mechanical design. (yes glorified words) Grow Up. Really, Cause Eve isnt a normal Community its got Plenty of Smart players and Demeaning this Game that those who Love it would rather have seen Some improvements no matter how small. 
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.25 10:14:00 -
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I stand Firm to the Original TOS, the Naming policey is there. Read that!
Crotch is fine, but the referance Is Not.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.25 10:43:00 -
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Edited by: Gallion on 25/11/2010 10:43:58
yes your talking about petitioning them. So am I. its not minor it huge. U just wouldnt understand. oh and the punishment was there from the begining.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.25 13:10:00 -
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points made. and fer certain others.. still miss the topic. And my Crusade isnt just mine there are others, and many of them don't have time for forums. Petition work is part of their Strive for Excellence, and Holding their rules is part that as well.
They are fine with this. That is why there is a Petition category and no change in naming policies.
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Gallion
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.25 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: debbie harrio
Originally by: Gallion
points made. and fer certain others.. still miss the topic. And my Crusade isnt just mine there are others, and many of them don't have time for forums. Petition work is part of their Strive for Excellence, and Holding their rules is part that as well.
They are fine with this. That is why there is a Petition category and no change in naming policies.
I see you didn't reply to my comment about your name being offensive with it's obvious connotations but then you forget that inoffensive names in your eyes may have deeper connections than you first realise, the same applies to what you may find offensive in your language actually has different connections than you have the intelligence to work out.
In other words, stop using your questionable morality to sensor other players names when you are doing it from a misguided platform of ignorance.
No. But now your Just attacking me. Its Sensibility & Maturity. not morality.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.25 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Gallion
Originally by: debbie harrio
Originally by: Gallion
points made. and fer certain others.. still miss the topic. And my Crusade isnt just mine there are others, and many of them don't have time for forums. Petition work is part of their Strive for Excellence, and Holding their rules is part that as well.
They are fine with this. That is why there is a Petition category and no change in naming policies.
I see you didn't reply to my comment about your name being offensive with it's obvious connotations but then you forget that inoffensive names in your eyes may have deeper connections than you first realise, the same applies to what you may find offensive in your language actually has different connections than you have the intelligence to work out.
In other words, stop using your questionable morality to sensor other players names when you are doing it from a misguided platform of ignorance.
No. But now your Just attacking me. Its Sensibility & Maturity. not morality.
which Im totaly fine with since that is your problem. But to put something past your Ignorance. Wrong topic.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.25 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Korg Hammer
Originally by: Theel Maas
Originally by: Korg Hammer
Although I don't support the op, if you are going to start pointing out grammatical errors and spelling mistakes, I would look at your own writing first.
She seems to address that with the "i am german" part, conceding her failure to be flawless.
Whilst that is true, its still a bit of a cheap shot to point out someone else is grammar and spelling mistakes whilst making mistakes yourself. Particularly when you cant be sure that the person your correcting is English as well.
no its just just being racist.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.26 08:58:00 -
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Obviously things aren't going the way they should so I've already requested this topic to be closed.
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