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Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.11.26 18:34:00 -
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I doubt this thread will reach 2 pages..... oh wait...
I can't believe you even had this thought Culmen, never mind posting it.
 Originally by: Allestin Villimar
Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax
Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.11.26 19:07:00 -
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This thread = Rabble, rabble, rabble 
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CCP Zulu
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Posted - 2010.11.26 19:55:00 -
[33]
They took our jobs!
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Allataria
Caldari
EdgeGamers
Covenant of Prophecy
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Posted - 2010.11.26 20:05:00 -
[34]
Edited by: Allataria on 26/11/2010 20:04:45
Originally by: CCP Zulu
They took our jobs!
TOOK ERR DERRS!!!
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Narisa Bithon
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.26 20:09:00 -
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i for one welcome our new no learning skills overlords 
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Edmar
Ship Depot
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Posted - 2010.11.26 20:17:00 -
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I think the OP is spot on.
If you are going to start giving up everyting that makes this game unique and pander to the 2 week subscriber's desires this is how I see eve evolving.
1st step was removal of learning skills.
2nd step will be removal of attributes.
3rd step will be removal of skill points and the uniqe time based traning and replaced with experience points and levels. You have to PVE to get exp.
4th step will be removal of loss of ship and equipment upon death. After all that's what the 2 week old subscriber really wants because that's what he's used to in other games.
5th step will be sharding eve into PVP and PVE servers
6th step will be vetrean rewards with exp potions, special mounts, etc, eve virtual store
7th step will be free to play mode
8th step will be mass exodus to some other game that is unique and didn't give up everything that made it unique to convert a few more 2 week subscribers into 3 month subscribers
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Anyura
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Posted - 2010.11.26 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Allataria
Edited by: Allataria on 26/11/2010 20:04:45
Originally by: CCP Zulu
They took our jobs!
TOOK ERR DERRS!!!
Confirimg that jobs, which should have been allocated to us, have been filled by other people.
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Starlight Twilight
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.26 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zulu
They took our jobs!
quoting for south park goodness
Star Light Star bright, The first star I see tonight, I wish I may, I wish I might,
Have the wish I wish tonight.
I wish for chocolate! |
Caldari Acolyte
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Posted - 2010.11.26 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Culmen
Ok, learning skills are gone.
Everyone can have all three of their character slots remapped to spec in Combat, and Science and Industry.
So everyone will be training like they had their attributes setup optimally, so why not just remove attributes, have everything train at the same speed.
It's the logical next step and newbie friendly.
No, and WOW is that way--> Please go back to it.
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.27 03:17:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Edmar
8th step will be mass exodus to some other game that is unique and didn't give up everything that made it unique to convert a few more 2 week subscribers into 3 month subscribers
You should start now, we'll catch up I promise.
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Drakarin
Gallente
Absentia Libertas Solus
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Posted - 2010.11.27 03:43:00 -
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Not that anything can be done about it, but anything that encourages or helps alts is a terrible, terrible thing. Seriously. If anything I've ever said about this game, anything at all, alternative characters are the biggest disruption and disgust I have for it. If alts were actually discouraged, *gasp*, the actions of your character would resonate throught the ages until you quit for good because YOU ARE YOU, not you + 3 other characters.
And of course, it's fair for people without a financial advantage in real life.
Everything about alts makes the game easier, diminishing the value of it substantially (if any crowd should know that easier doesn't equal better it's this one) which is why I'm so bewildered as to how many people have not just alts on the same account, but actually get more than one account.
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Alt Tabbed
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Posted - 2010.11.27 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: Edmar
I think the OP is spot on.
If you are going to start giving up everyting that makes this game unique and pander to the 2 week subscriber's desires this is how I see eve evolving.
1st step was removal of learning skills.
2nd step will be removal of attributes.
3rd step will be removal of skill points and the uniqe time based traning and replaced with experience points and levels. You have to PVE to get exp.
4th step will be removal of loss of ship and equipment upon death. After all that's what the 2 week old subscriber really wants because that's what he's used to in other games.
5th step will be sharding eve into PVP and PVE servers
6th step will be vetrean rewards with exp potions, special mounts, etc, eve virtual store
7th step will be free to play mode
8th step will be mass exodus to some other game that is unique and didn't give up everything that made it unique to convert a few more 2 week subscribers into 3 month subscribers
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I'm gonna go ahead and agree with this guy.
His spelling is bad, and grammar isn't so hot, but sadly he is spot on.
Folks this isn't about "How noobs are gonna catch up to Vets", anyone thinking that way is a renob. This is about dumbing down the game further. (Which I find horribly ironic)
Originally by: Redshift XIII
Something tells me this guy wouldn't approve of my rocketcane :(
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Kierlana Vosk
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Posted - 2010.11.27 06:46:00 -
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Edited by: Kierlana Vosk on 27/11/2010 06:46:28
Originally by: Alt Tabbed
Originally by: Edmar
I think the OP is spot on.
If you are going to start giving up everyting that makes this game unique and pander to the 2 week subscriber's desires this is how I see eve evolving.
1st step was removal of learning skills.
2nd step will be removal of attributes.
3rd step will be removal of skill points and the uniqe time based traning and replaced with experience points and levels. You have to PVE to get exp.
4th step will be removal of loss of ship and equipment upon death. After all that's what the 2 week old subscriber really wants because that's what he's used to in other games.
5th step will be sharding eve into PVP and PVE servers
6th step will be vetrean rewards with exp potions, special mounts, etc, eve virtual store
7th step will be free to play mode
8th step will be mass exodus to some other game that is unique and didn't give up everything that made it unique to convert a few more 2 week subscribers into 3 month subscribers
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I'm gonna go ahead and agree with this guy.
His spelling is bad, and grammar isn't so hot, but sadly he is spot on.
Folks this isn't about "How noobs are gonna catch up to Vets", anyone thinking that way is a renob. This is about dumbing down the game further. (Which I find horribly ironic)
They're removing learning skills! OMG they're so obviously splitting the server and removing any penalty for death and making the whole thing free to play!
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No. Just ****ing no.
I am so damn glad I don't have your line of thought, cuz every time I got a paper cut, I'd be screaming bloody murder all the way to the emergency room.
OH GOD I'm gonna bleed to death it's going to get infected and my face is gonna fall off and...
Either that, or I just got trolled. I hope. 
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Dlardrageth
ANZAC ALLIANCE
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.27 07:04:00 -
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Step Three:
Remove OP and send him packing back to WoW...
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cpu939
Gallente
Unknown Soldiers
The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2010.11.27 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Alt Tabbed
Originally by: Edmar
I think the OP is spot on.
If you are going to start giving up everyting that makes this game unique and pander to the 2 week subscriber's desires this is how I see eve evolving.
1st step was removal of learning skills.
2nd step will be removal of attributes.
3rd step will be removal of skill points and the uniqe time based traning and replaced with experience points and levels. You have to PVE to get exp.
4th step will be removal of loss of ship and equipment upon death. After all that's what the 2 week old subscriber really wants because that's what he's used to in other games.
5th step will be sharding eve into PVP and PVE servers
6th step will be vetrean rewards with exp potions, special mounts, etc, eve virtual store
7th step will be free to play mode
8th step will be mass exodus to some other game that is unique and didn't give up everything that made it unique to convert a few more 2 week subscribers into 3 month subscribers
...
I'm gonna go ahead and agree with this guy.
His spelling is bad, and grammar isn't so hot, but sadly he is spot on.
Folks this isn't about "How noobs are gonna catch up to Vets", anyone thinking that way is a renob. This is about dumbing down the game further. (Which I find horribly ironic)
ok are you saying that learning skills help people know what mods to fit to there ship.
noobie 1 - is amarr projectile base
noobie 2 - i don't know i'll train these learning skills then i'll know
noobie 1 - wow learning skills tell you that?
noobie 2 - yup thats why there called learning skills
you really think removing learning skills has dumbed down eve. learning skills where/are a pain in the behind.
these skills only speeded up training of other skills i can't find a single mod or ship that needs learning skills, all this has done is made it faster to **** up your training.
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Tarasina
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Posted - 2010.11.27 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Drakarin
Not that anything can be done about it, but anything that encourages or helps alts is a terrible, terrible thing. Seriously. If anything I've ever said about this game, anything at all, alternative characters are the biggest disruption and disgust I have for it. If alts were actually discouraged, *gasp*, the actions of your character would resonate throught the ages until you quit for good because YOU ARE YOU, not you + 3 other characters.
And of course, it's fair for people without a financial advantage in real life.
Everything about alts makes the game easier, diminishing the value of it substantially (if any crowd should know that easier doesn't equal better it's this one) which is why I'm so bewildered as to how many people have not just alts on the same account, but actually get more than one account.
This, there is no accountability. You screw up your char (and its reputation), you can sell it to someone and buy a new one or fly your other chars. |
Sidrat Flush
Caldari
Eve Industrial Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.27 11:01:00 -
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This game has always been Alts-Online. Ever since I first joined a 0.0 alliance and the required level of meta-gaming that had to go on to ensure success.
There's a few game design issues that are partly to blame, but then CCP as a company relies on making money to succeed and grow the only income stream they have (currently) is that of paying subscribers.
As for removing learning skills, it's a shame to see them go as there will now only be implants as a method of attribute increase and they're going to have to up the current set of +1 to +5 to at least +3 to +8 and then introduce two new implants for +9 and +10
I think that would be more than a sensible way of off setting the gains, sadly only rich characters will be able to afford to train at current peak (theoretical 10), but then that is the case with training skills after the first few weeks of training up the learning skills anyway.
I think this belongs in the suggestion box.
View The Eve Industrial Organiser Site
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Jennifer Starling
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.27 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 27/11/2010 11:35:09
I like the (lack of) logic in these kind of threads ...
a) the death penalty will be abolished
the hysterical mob: *omg there won't be law anymore and prisons will closed! This is going to be a lawless country in the hands of criminal organisations!*
b) kids asks mother for some money to buy candy
the hysterical mob: *OMG no don't do that, that kid will end up spending all your well deserved money and you won't be able to pay mortage and tax and your bills anymore and your family will end up as beggars on the streets!*
c) old man feeds birds in the park
the hysterical mob: *NOOO don't feed them, if you feed them we'll get more and more birds and our beautiful country will be overrun with birds and their poo will be all over the place so everything will be covered in it and they'll also eat all our crops and we'll all die from starvation or drown in birds poo!!*
Hysteria makes for very strong and valid arguments ..
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