Originally by: Serious Masta

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Originally by: Miilla

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Can you please give a direct link to the patch download so we dont have to rely on the auto downloader to work (it sometims doesnt).

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{links removed}

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Originally by: SkinSin

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Edited by: SkinSin on 30/11/2010 13:01:59

Originally by: Serious Masta

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Originally by: Miilla

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Can you please give a direct link to the patch download so we dont have to rely on the auto downloader to work (it sometims doesnt).

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Windows: http://content.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch197121-207554_m.exe

Mac: http://content.eveonline.com/mac/evepremiumpatch197121-207554-mac.tgz

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Everyone with more than 2 braincells to rub together knows not to even attempt patching until they've finished updating TQ. You get it wrong and you might have to re-download the entire eve install!

Stop giving out links before CCP are ready, you dunce!

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Originally by: Nayane

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1st I'm not whining, I'm only stating the obvious and second I'm not a noob that don't know how this game works. I am one person that dislikes PvP quite alot especially when you're quite low on SP, but this system with BPO's only being released in 0.0 Systems/Stations and the price of 390 Milion (Normal price though) Is indeed quite expensive, for people that are way over the skillrequirements to fly the ship, but can't afford it to buy one, I mean The rich will get richer, while the poor stay poor, ok there are many other ways to get your money, but that doesn't mean it's within everybody's reach :)

P.s.
I would like to let people react normal towards what I type, this isn't whining, this how I look into things and if u can't respond with a normal proper way towards me, cause u think I'm whining, then please keep your fingers quiet about it, I know that there are more people that agree with me about this thought. :)

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Originally by: strikethree

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Originally by: Annubis Lorn

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ok i have a question about the new 'salvage ship'.......... where will it be available for purchase? will it be on the open market? i have heard that the print for it will only be available from ORE. and that this is how the production of this ship will begin is from these prints........ if this is so, then one alliance will end up with sole production of this ship and will in turn cause the prices on this ship unreasonable.... if this is the way it will work, then i feel it will in no way be the great gift it is being made out to be, itll just be another way for an overgrown day one alliance to extort unreasonable amounts of isk out of carebear missioners.

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Carebear missioning is essentially dead. Most of the value has been sucked out of it and if you use a reasonable ship to kill stuff quickly, you can expect to get suicide ganked for your modules. Eve is all about Alliance Warfare, Manufacturing, and Trading.There really is no room for anyone else, not even pirates (once all the mission carebears give up). *sigh*

If you read the release notes, you will see that they directly acknowledge this sad situation. Warfare drives the market and titans are the be-all end-all of the market.

strike

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Originally by: Nayane

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1st I'm not whining, I'm only stating the obvious and second I'm not a noob that don't know how this game works. I am one person that dislikes PvP quite alot especially when you're quite low on SP, but this system with BPO's only being released in 0.0 Systems/Stations and the price of 390 Milion (Normal price though) Is indeed quite expensive, for people that are way over the skillrequirements to fly the ship, but can't afford it to buy one, I mean The rich will get richer, while the poor stay poor, ok there are many other ways to get your money, but that doesn't mean it's within everybody's reach :)

P.s.
I would like to let people react normal towards what I type, this isn't whining, this how I look into things and if u can't respond with a normal proper way towards me, cause u think I'm whining, then please keep your fingers quiet about it, I know that there are more people that agree with me about this thought. :)

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Originally by: Nayane

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1st I'm not whining, I'm only stating the obvious and second I'm not a noob that don't know how this game works. I am one person that dislikes PvP quite alot especially when you're quite low on SP, but this system with BPO's only being released in 0.0 Systems/Stations and the price of 390 Milion (Normal price though) Is indeed quite expensive, for people that are way over the skillrequirements to fly the ship, but can't afford it to buy one, I mean The rich will get richer, while the poor stay poor, ok there are many other ways to get your money, but that doesn't mean it's within everybody's reach :)

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Originally by: Jimnoo

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Originally by: Nayane

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1st I'm not whining, I'm only stating the obvious and second I'm not a noob that don't know how this game works. I am one person that dislikes PvP quite alot especially when you're quite low on SP, but this system with BPO's only being released in 0.0 Systems/Stations and the price of 390 Milion (Normal price though) Is indeed quite expensive, for people that are way over the skillrequirements to fly the ship, but can't afford it to buy one, I mean The rich will get richer, while the poor stay poor, ok there are many other ways to get your money, but that doesn't mean it's within everybody's reach :)

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Please help me to understand your concern.

People with 390 million and a willingness to pick up the BPO will buy them. Ignoring crazy prices in the first week, they will then make and sell the ships for a small profit. This small profit compensates them for the risk of moving a BPO and the effort of research and manufacturing. You get to buy the ship for a small amount higher tha mineral cost.

What exactly should be different?

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Originally by: malaire

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From login screen: "Due to minor issues uncovered during internal testing, downtime for EVE Online: Incursion 1.0.0 deployment has been extended by 30 minutes. We estimate Tranquility to open for business at 14:30 UTC."

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Originally by: malaire

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From login screen: "Due to minor issues uncovered during internal testing, downtime for EVE Online: Incursion 1.0.0 deployment has been extended by 30 minutes. We estimate Tranquility to open for business at 14:30 UTC."

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Originally by: Diablo Maximus

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Edited by: Diablo Maximus on 30/11/2010 13:18:41

Sansha attacking miners in asteroid belts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7VVwLuidIE


Looks like a good time to sell some Mackinaw and Hulks! Some pilots may need a good supply of em :D

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Originally by: Ifestos Vulcan

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Looks like mr Sansha has issues...he needs to show someone where the bad man touched him.

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Originally by: WaliWorld

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Originally by: Ifestos Vulcan

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Looks like mr Sansha has issues...he needs to show someone where the bad man touched him.

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ROFL and since when could miners speak with lungs full of Capsule liquid? I'd imagine comms sounding closer to "GARGLEGARGLEBUBUBUBLELE"

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Originally by: Justicia Ciega

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Originally by: Jimnoo

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Originally by: Nayane

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1st I'm not whining, I'm only stating the obvious and second I'm not a noob that don't know how this game works. I am one person that dislikes PvP quite alot especially when you're quite low on SP, but this system with BPO's only being released in 0.0 Systems/Stations and the price of 390 Milion (Normal price though) Is indeed quite expensive, for people that are way over the skillrequirements to fly the ship, but can't afford it to buy one, I mean The rich will get richer, while the poor stay poor, ok there are many other ways to get your money, but that doesn't mean it's within everybody's reach :)

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Please help me to understand your concern.

People with 390 million and a willingness to pick up the BPO will buy them. Ignoring crazy prices in the first week, they will then make and sell the ships for a small profit. This small profit compensates them for the risk of moving a BPO and the effort of research and manufacturing. You get to buy the ship for a small amount higher tha mineral cost.

What exactly should be different?

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I think he wants a free noctis with a bpo in its cargohold....delivered to his hangar.

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Originally by: Nayane

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Originally by: Justicia Ciega

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Originally by: Jimnoo

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Originally by: Nayane

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1st I'm not whining, I'm only stating the obvious and second I'm not a noob that don't know how this game works. I am one person that dislikes PvP quite alot especially when you're quite low on SP, but this system with BPO's only being released in 0.0 Systems/Stations and the price of 390 Milion (Normal price though) Is indeed quite expensive, for people that are way over the skillrequirements to fly the ship, but can't afford it to buy one, I mean The rich will get richer, while the poor stay poor, ok there are many other ways to get your money, but that doesn't mean it's within everybody's reach :)

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Please help me to understand your concern.

People with 390 million and a willingness to pick up the BPO will buy them. Ignoring crazy prices in the first week, they will then make and sell the ships for a small profit. This small profit compensates them for the risk of moving a BPO and the effort of research and manufacturing. You get to buy the ship for a small amount higher tha mineral cost.

What exactly should be different?

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I think he wants a free noctis with a bpo in its cargohold....delivered to his hangar.

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No I don't want a free noctis + bpo, what I mean is that the ships can also be in the market on a fixed price decided by CCP. and about the pvp part I never liked PvP and I never even played WoW on P2P servers due various reasons, which I won't enlighten atm, otherwise I'm getting offtopic and nobody cares anyhow :P

But still, IF the ship going for take or less 150 mil (Just a random number) Wouldn't it be a bit expensive, if u compare it towards the required skills, which u can train within ehh 2 to 3 days (More or less, dunno the exact numbers, but it's a rough guess) My character is now about 3.5 yrs old and have about 8.7 mil SP and I always said to myself, that I won't go into pvp until I'm atleast around 30-50m SP I know the mainbase is PvP in this game, but atleast people that don't want to PvP from the start and just enjoy the game are still safe to somewhat of a degree. Now I'm not saying all this cause I'm greedy, cause I'm definetly not greedy, but I said this before, this new ship and if it's with every new ship added, means that only the rich people can get it first, while the younger players (Character's Age) Are left out, cause they simply can't afford it or are strong enough to get it, cause some people are podding people to be the only ones that can get towards the bpo. I know this is the system, but wouldn't it be fair that all players can enjoy the new content, without having to wait lets say 2 to 4 months orso?

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Originally by: Stormchyld

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Originally by: strikethree

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Originally by: Annubis Lorn

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ok i have a question about the new 'salvage ship'.......... where will it be available for purchase? will it be on the open market? i have heard that the print for it will only be available from ORE. and that this is how the production of this ship will begin is from these prints........ if this is so, then one alliance will end up with sole production of this ship and will in turn cause the prices on this ship unreasonable.... if this is the way it will work, then i feel it will in no way be the great gift it is being made out to be, itll just be another way for an overgrown day one alliance to extort unreasonable amounts of isk out of carebear missioners.

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Carebear missioning is essentially dead. Most of the value has been sucked out of it and if you use a reasonable ship to kill stuff quickly, you can expect to get suicide ganked for your modules. Eve is all about Alliance Warfare, Manufacturing, and Trading.There really is no room for anyone else, not even pirates (once all the mission carebears give up). *sigh*

If you read the release notes, you will see that they directly acknowledge this sad situation. Warfare drives the market and titans are the be-all end-all of the market.

strike

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I make 3 or 4 bil a week missioning ... 1.2b yesterday... so explain to me please how missioning is dead? and why do I hear from quite a few pvp'ers how little isk they make? I'm confused... so perhaps you can educate me on this.

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Originally by: Con Ton

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14:30 has been and gone and still no offer to download new version just tells me incompatible version.:(

Guess it is back to watching Hulu for a while.

Dave

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Originally by: Con Ton

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In a strange way I hope the "ccomute your flesh to dust is for real in the trailer. A real way to die. one where you would have to start again from the beginning:) Now that would be scary.

Dave

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Originally by: Con Ton

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14:30 has been and gone and still no offer to download new version just tells me incompatible version.:(

Guess it is back to watching Hulu for a while.

Dave

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Originally by: Con Ton

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14:30 has been and gone and still no offer to download new version just tells me incompatible version.:(

Guess it is back to watching Hulu for a while.

Dave

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Originally by: SherlockHoles

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I think he wants a free noctis with a bpo in its cargohold....delivered to his hangar.

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