My ways work just as well as "fighting back" or hiring mercs.

Fine. There's plenty of other ways I can deal with you. But just to annoy you further I could just keep flying away or jump clone~, I don't care :) If you're willing to fly 45+ jumps just to try to maybe get a kill well...you got some issues ;)

My ways work just as well as "fighting back" or hiring mercs. If they aren't pvp centered, then they won't fight effectively and just end up on a KB. Maybe they can't afford mercs, and if they can there's no guarantee they'll keep their end of the bargain. And disbanding a corp is just shameful, it makes the griefers win.

My methods allow them to continue playing while avoiding the griefers relatively easy, whiel your "methods" just seem like passe pro-pvp solutions to get them killed or shamed faster.

GǪexcept that none of your suggestions help them do what they want, whereas hiring mercs might actually keep the opposing party off their backs. They could also just buy them off.

If they want to be absolutely free of wardecs, there is only one way. If they want to get out of one right now, there is also only one way (ok, twoGǪ but the other one is a bit delayed).

What's an GÇ£allotGÇ¥?

Other than that, working as intended. There are a number of mechanics and strategies in place to deal with it. If you don't want to deal with wardecs, then don't have a corp.

Go ahead and keep flying, it just means that I am preventing you from doing anything else which is what I would probably be getting paid to do.

Jump clone, fly out to the ass end of the verse, whatever, as long as you are online I will track you down. High sec, low sec, null sec, wormholes, missions, or complexes, if someone says they want these players dead then nothing will stop me from accomplishing that.

Your attitude is all wrong. If they fly cheap and don't give a **** i.e. are comfortable with the fact that pvp is an area of the game theyre not good at but can be with practice much like everybody else who has ever played this game then why should they care if they end up on a kb. throw 10 noob **** fit frigates at a BC the worse that could happen is they'd lose 10 **** fit frigates obviously the best case would be that 10 low skill carebears just face raped a ~leet~ pvp hisec war ******.

Hiring mercs is risky business, unnecessarily so. They are in no way obligated to keep their contract. Even if they do, they could just hold you for ransom for more, raise prices, etc. My ways allow them to avoid the enemy or fly right through them while stabbed and tanked, while continuing to move on with their life.

Hiring mercs is risky business, unnecessarily so. They are in no way obligated to keep their contract.

My ways allow them to avoid the enemy or fly right through them while stabbed and tanked, while continuing to move on with their life.

If they don't want to PvP, they shouldn't have to.

I should probably state this is based on a personal problem but not all the scenarios apply to us, like the sitting docked up, we are fully willing to stand up for ourselfs. What I am trying to say is we shouldn't be forced to PvP, we enjoy doing other things but can't do it if we are war deced.

Sure. You have to shop around and get some references, but hey, that's the game (until they implement kill payments). If they feel uncomfortable with that, they can try paying the aggressor directly to kill the war.

Not really, no. Your ways allow them to fly around a bit. It doesn't let them do the things the OP listed (mine, mission, rat).

Well ok lol, have fun!



If they don't want to PvP, they shouldn't have to. Why should they be forced to pad their KB?

I should probably state this is based on a personal problem but not all the scenarios apply to us, like the sitting docked up, we are fully willing to stand up for ourselfs. What I am trying to say is we shouldn't be forced to PvP, we enjoy doing other things but can't do it if we are war deced.

I should probably state this is based on a personal problem but not all the scenarios apply to us, like the sitting docked up, we are fully willing to stand up for ourselfs. What I am trying to say is we shouldn't be forced to PvP, we enjoy doing other things but can't do it if we are war deced.

You're telling me that jump cloning 40 jumps away would not allow them to mine or mission? Living in a wormhole or nul wouldn't either?

Playing on alts to do the same thing wouldn't as well? Warp stabs won't let them fly around to trade?

Depends on the aggressor. It also depends on whether or not the corp is able to do that GÇö if they've built up rep and offices and POSes and whathaevyou in one area, going 40 jumps away or into other sec levels will be even more bothersome for them than for the aggressors.

Playing on alts will not let them use the corp they've built, no, and unless they've duplicated their mains with those alts, they will not be able to use them to do the same things. Flying with stabs will work the first time for tradingGǪ but it will not let them do the things the OP listed, no.

You're telling me that jump cloning 40 jumps away would not allow them to mine or mission? Living in a wormhole or nul wouldn't either?

Playing on alts to do the same thing wouldn't as well? Warp stabs won't let them fly around to trade?

I do believe I said that. As long as you are logged in I can find you. 40 jumps will buy you maybe ten minutes of playtime. The jumclone will just be wasted and you will have to wait another 24 hours before you can waste it again.

Don't hire mercs. They don't help.

Don't try to fight back. If you fight back the wardeccers will not fight.

You have to understand Hisec wardeccers. They don't want to fight. They just want easy kills. If you stand up to them they will play station games and other stupid crap to snipe you off avoiding a fight.

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Your best weapon against wardeccers is.......boredom. Bore them to death and they will go away. The trick is that your corpies cannot be bored during this time or they will leave. Wardecs provide a 'spice' to your routine...and excuse to do new things. Some corpies will be inflexible but they are best discarded from your corp anyway. If you have stupid corpies giving the wardeccers easy kills then the wardeccers will hang around. Use wardecs to spice your corp activities/keep from going stale...to find and eliminate stupid and/or inflexible people from your corp and to practice skills for surviving in tougher space.

edit - if you need to go Afk, fix dinner go to a movie...sleep, work etc....log in your toon and let it sit in a station. Adds to the boredom of wardeccers when they look for targets. Also helps to obscure when you are actually doing something.

You are an exception, in my experience.


When I missioned under wardecs, there would be a flurry of activity to 'get me' at the start and at the end. At the start because I was around. It would wane when they realized I was a harder to get target. Finally at the end because, I imagine, they thought I would let down my guard during the 24 hours between wardec withdrawn and the stop of hostilities.

If you think you're being harassed file a petition.

I should probably state this is based on a personal problem but not all the scenarios apply to us, like the sitting docked up, we are fully willing to stand up for ourselfs. What I am trying to say is we shouldn't be forced to PvP, we enjoy doing other things but can't do it if we are war deced.

Yea because those queues aren't long enough already. So let's waste more time on useless petitions.