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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1203
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Posted - 2012.08.10 15:12:00 -
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My view is this, its so that you can still duel people in your fleet without getting Concorded. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2620
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Posted - 2012.08.10 16:58:00 -
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Stop littering up the belts with your garbage you horrible miners. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1120
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Posted - 2012.08.10 17:08:00 -
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Quit screwing around with cans and go to low/null and shoot whomever you please? . |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
2086
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Posted - 2012.08.10 17:09:00 -
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Off topic and non-constructive posts removed. Please stay on topic and polite, thank you. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Marcus Ichiro
Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
74
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Posted - 2012.08.10 17:56:00 -
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Jadeleth wrote:ccp is allowing pvp in high security areas, which are supposed to be places for players who don't like PVP
I stop reading there. That is 100% incorrect.
If you don't want PVP, stay docked. |
Eternal Error
Exitus Acta Probant
116
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Posted - 2012.08.10 18:48:00 -
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2/10
On the chance that this isn't a troll post:
I support the expansion of can flipping flags to include the owner's alliance, not just corporation. I do not support it being owned by the fleet.
Also, this will probably be "fixed" by CCP Greyscale's awful crimewatch ideas, so don't worry too much about it. |
Ezra Tair
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
84
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:06:00 -
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With the new selection of Mining Barges, and Exhumers, and Orcas, I don't really have any sympathy for people suffering from can flippers. |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
99
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:49:00 -
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Jadeleth wrote:Again you saying there's no safe place... I don't want a spot to hide and pray, I blame can flip rules since they allow unfair fights and even a way to use CONCORD for piracy acts.
Have I asked to rush CONCORD against thieves? No, I just want fair ways to counter can flippers...
I'm really happy to "be touched in PVP" when I'm playing with friends, it sucks if I'm with them but only one is allowed to fight...
Isn't it clear?
CCP created the corp to allow players to work together and defend each other. You and your friends chose not to use this mechanic. You chose to be a victim.
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Lord Arakkis
Knights of Illusion SquarePig Transport Empire
34
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Posted - 2012.08.10 23:02:00 -
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OP is playing the wrong game. End of discussion Join the Knights Of Illusion STE Corporation! Casual and Hardcore gamers! |
Russell Casey
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
183
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Posted - 2012.08.11 01:45:00 -
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Wait...people still solo jetcan mine after the last patch? I figured 1.2 was CCP taking can-flipping for a long walk with a shovel. Also, soon as he takes that ore he's flagged to your entire corp/alliance and his friends can't help him outside repping which will flag them too in a belt where there's no place to dock.
The odds can't get much better in your favor. |
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Kalosine
Kingdom Inc. Island of Misfit Toons
0
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Posted - 2012.08.11 06:27:00 -
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I'll admit I am very new to Eve but...
Don't they make secure containers that you can PW protect? also don't they make mining ships with giant cargoholds? Why would you use a can that people can randomly take from? I honestly don't understand, is it just being really lazy?
Sorry if this has already been said. |
magic preacher
Concentrated Evil The Marmite Collective
12
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Posted - 2012.08.11 11:32:00 -
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Russell Casey wrote:Wait...people still solo jetcan mine after the last patch? I figured 1.2 was CCP taking can-flipping for a long walk with a shovel. Also, soon as he takes that ore he's flagged to your entire corp/alliance and his friends can't help him outside repping which will flag them too in a belt where there's no place to dock.
The odds can't get much better in your favor.
flagged to your corp not your alliance !!!
and please make me red to the whole fleet ...that would be far more fun |
Russell Casey
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
183
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Posted - 2012.08.11 14:09:00 -
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magic preacher wrote:Russell Casey wrote:Wait...people still solo jetcan mine after the last patch? I figured 1.2 was CCP taking can-flipping for a long walk with a shovel. Also, soon as he takes that ore he's flagged to your entire corp/alliance and his friends can't help him outside repping which will flag them too in a belt where there's no place to dock.
The odds can't get much better in your favor. flagged to your corp not your alliance !!! and please make me red to the whole fleet ...that would be far more fun
No, they're flagged to the alliance, I've done it enough times to know :P
And yes, flagging to fleet would be awesome, it makes (or made) can flipping the sort of "gateway piracy" you could get noobs and normally PvE focused people into without having to require they sign over into your corp right away. On the flip side, it would help the miner if he had friends outside his corp an alliance who could do something besides scoop his wreck when he dies. |
Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
4
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Posted - 2012.08.11 22:25:00 -
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Kalosine wrote:I'll admit I am very new to Eve but...
Don't they make secure containers that you can PW protect? also don't they make mining ships with giant cargoholds? Why would you use a can that people can randomly take from? I honestly don't understand, is it just being really lazy?
Sorry if this has already been said.
jetcans can hold up to 24,000m^3 of stuff i think and it's also free and doesn't have any positional requirements like the secure containers.
With all these benefits there must be a downside and that downside is that anyone can steal from them as long as they accept the consequences |
Mallak Azaria
555
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Posted - 2012.08.18 22:57:00 -
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Jadeleth wrote:CONCORD is there to protect from PVP
Wrong. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
Mra Rednu
Black Watch Guard
63
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Posted - 2012.08.18 23:16:00 -
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Jadeleth wrote:If I (player) meet you, take your cell-phone and put it in the nearest trash can, you can take it back... but if you do it in this game I can shoot you and, after fifteen minutes, if one of your friends tries to disarm me he get shooted by police... lot of sense.
Nope, in this case the player put his own mobile phone in the rubbish bin and someone else came along and took it out. Miners have been chucking away ore for years, they were just lucky as someone before mentioned that ccp changed the rules giving people the right to shoot the people who took stuff out of wrecks and jetcans. |
Korsiri
Mousetrap Building Inc.
63
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Posted - 2012.08.18 23:34:00 -
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the only thing disappointing about can flipping is the suckers who fall for it |
Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
26
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Posted - 2012.08.20 02:13:00 -
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This thread has been made irrelevant by mining barge changes.
The only can-flippers and can-baiters I've seen in the last week have all been hanging out in front of newbie stations (Which is completely against CCP TOS, not that this stops anyone).
New crimewatch system (once in place) will make can-flipping a hobby of only the truly suicidal, as fleets or corporate affiliation will become irrelevant - criminal flags will be universal, allowing for anyone to inflict justice on evil-doers at whim (or until their 15 minutes are up).
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Sith1s Spectre
Sky Fighters Talocan United
8
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Posted - 2012.08.20 02:25:00 -
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OP.
Just incase you weren't aware of the definition of Jettion, i've listed it below for you.
jet-+ti-+son GÇé GÇé[jet-uh-suhn, -zuhn] Show IPA
verb (used with object) 1. to cast (goods) overboard in order to lighten a vessel or aircraft or to improve its stability in an emergency.
2. to throw off (something) as an obstacle or burden; discard.
3. Cards . to discard (an unwanted card or cards).
If you actually want the ore, perhaps you should use SECURE containers or an Orca..
May you be one with Bob |
Vrykolakasis
Trinity Operations Aurora Irae
59
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Posted - 2012.08.20 06:51:00 -
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I need to read more about this crimewatch system. From what I'm reading here, I don't like it. |
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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2671
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Posted - 2012.08.20 14:19:00 -
[51] - Quote
Thread closed because of uninformative. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Katerwaul
The Scope Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.09.03 05:01:00 -
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Have your guards drop the jetcans.
Solutions. Working with everyone to improve New Eden -- Internet Spaceships Iz Serious Business. |
Mike Adoulin
Trans-Aerospace Industries
5
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Posted - 2012.09.03 06:19:00 -
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You know whats funny?
When the new Crimewatch takes effect, the OP will be back bitching even more.
For those who don't know about Crimewatch, in a nutshell...you flip a can....EVERYBODY in the system can shoot you, for the next 15 minutes.
Debate currently rages about whether jumping to another system will/should clear the aggro timer.
Personally, I don't see why CCP simply doesn't add a 'duel' function....work it like a micro-wardec, 1v1 only, challenger has to pay a fee (set it up like the convo fee/filter), if the other person accepts, they get a 3 minute timer to get ready, and then they go red to each other. Neither party does any damage to the other within 15 miutes, duel expires.
Bang, yer done. |
Russell Casey
Deep Void Industrial Group
189
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Posted - 2012.09.03 22:01:00 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:You know whats funny?
When the new Crimewatch takes effect, the OP will be back bitching even more.
For those who don't know about Crimewatch, in a nutshell...you flip a can....EVERYBODY in the system can shoot you, for the next 15 minutes.
Ehhhh....thing about can miners is, they're using a can because they're alone/don't want to work with others. Most of the times I've successfully flipped, the screaming in local didn't start until well after I'd stolen the ore/killed/ransomed the miner. It's as if they were driven to that last, desperate measure, going against everything in their solo PvE nature, doing what they should have done in the first place by looking for help/tipping off the other bears.
Global flag for can theft does not bother me and it shouldn't bother anyone else. |
Abannan
Moira. Villore Accords
26
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Posted - 2012.09.04 04:13:00 -
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Jadeleth wrote:CONCORD is there to protect from PVP and someone is using it to do PVP? Oh come on! . False Concord does not protect, they punish. It's a very subtle difference |
Cyrek Ohaya
Perkone Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.09.05 03:21:00 -
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Quote me on this but if some "funny" guy is flying around stealing others property for the purpose of finding pvp targets, shouldn't he be fair game for other players to shoot the thief, I mean hes trying to get into pvp, he should have everyone around be able to shoot him for his crimes? |
Blastil
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
14
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Posted - 2012.09.05 16:15:00 -
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This suggestion of yours only has one outcome, Pirates will start fleeting with out of corp alts to can bait miners, and then reverse jetcan gank them. You will actually see a RISE in hs pvp through jet can mining. spreading agression across a fleet through jetcan flipping is the WORST IDEA EVER if you want to make hs safer... Why not just ban jetcans? That would REALLY put a stop to can flippping |
Russell Casey
Deep Void Industrial Group Damned Nation
190
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Posted - 2012.09.08 00:12:00 -
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Blastil wrote:This suggestion of yours only has one outcome, Pirates will start fleeting with out of corp alts to can bait miners, and then reverse jetcan gank them. You will actually see a RISE in hs pvp through jet can mining. spreading agression across a fleet through jetcan flipping is the WORST IDEA EVER if you want to make hs safer... Why not just ban jetcans? That would REALLY put a stop to can flippping
While we're at it, let's ban barges/exhumers/freighters/industrials/transports from highsec to put a stop to suicide ganking. |
Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.09.09 01:06:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:I don't high sec unless necessary but doesn't it warn you with an obtrusive pop up before you do something that will flag you?
Trying to steal from a can indeed does warn you about getting flagged. I think the poop-up appear as soon as you open the can. And it's usually not worth it to steal back from a can dropped by a pirate as those are usually bait to flag you so they can safely destroy your ship. |
loyalanon
Kopasas SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.09.14 05:45:00 -
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Funniest forum thread ever.
RECAP:
Some guy got can flipped, tried taking his stuff back. got PWNED.
Cries on the forums about it. |
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