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Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.10 10:44:00 -
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Yes,
it's time to curbstomp AFK activities, inflation, botting and blitzing, and expose the revenue streams to PVP. Replace all NPC bounties with lootable tags, that can be sold to NPC buy orders. Same goes to LP, no automatic, ungankable payouts anymore anywhere in New Eden.
Combine this with rat AI revamp and the removal of L4s from hisec, and EVE economy is back on track again.
Have a nice weekend!
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1031
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Posted - 2012.08.10 10:59:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:I'd rather have bounties and LP. Having to loot every wreck for tags in order to make an income is boring as ****.
Salvaging is about 400% more interesting than shooting rats.
People in wormholes already loot & salvage everything, and never complain- because having your income in a tangible form, exposed to hostiles actually adds interesting gameplay.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1033
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Posted - 2012.08.10 11:07:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Roime wrote:Combine this with rat AI revamp and the removal of L4s and incursions from hisec, and EVE economy is back on track again. ftfy
Ty!
I forgot about Incursions, because that Nefarious guy said CPP KILLED off all Incursion communities!!111
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1033
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Posted - 2012.08.10 11:23:00 -
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TotalRapeage wrote:
Drone regions didn't have bounties until just recently and it was still bots galore out there. How's your suggestion propose to handle all the jita station traders who make isk risk free?
You are correct, the bounty removal by itself (like any other single measure) is not enough to curb botting, and it's not likely that bots can ever be removed from computer games in general. But changes to rat AI along with the requirement to haul your "proof of kills" to the markets could help a bit.
I'd also like to see more alternatives to ratting-based income making in EVE.
As what comes to trading, I've lost billions on the markets, way more than in PVE ever.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1034
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Posted - 2012.08.10 11:50:00 -
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And you are in need of hugs. Here, have a warm, long hug <3
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1034
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Posted - 2012.08.10 11:56:00 -
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Perhaps you can seek the answer via the question- why should people play this game at the keyboard?
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1034
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Posted - 2012.08.10 12:03:00 -
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Maybe you should fit officer salvagers on that CNR?
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1034
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Posted - 2012.08.10 12:27:00 -
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I envy your L4 billions. I really do! I wish I could have as much fun and ISK in EVE.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1036
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Posted - 2012.08.10 13:11:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
So, you want to hammer the hell out of PVE income generation, and you just stated that trading is not the easy mode of generation ISK.
Precisely then, how do YOU make your ISK to fund your PvP activities and such.
I had to reread my posts, and still can't see where I said I want to hammer the hell out of anything? I'd like to decrease the ATM-like nature of current PVE, not decrease the actual profits. About trading I only echoed Richard's statement that trading is hardly risk-free.
And since you asked, by long-term investments using capital I accumulated during my active trading period(s). I also run a wh PI setup (most of that I feed now to corp wallet to buy ice products). I used to explore a lot but mostly for entertainment, now pretty much the only PVE I do is sleeper sites, and only because I want to give my corp members fun, regular and involving means of income generation, and I use my share to fund my corp's monthly award program.
Guess that answers Anslo's petty trolling as well.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1040
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Posted - 2012.08.10 15:22:00 -
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Lady,
this is obviously a discussion-starter, not a complete suggestion essay which would belong to another section on the forum.
In my personal experience, looting and salvaging is not a terrible chore, neither is hauling the goods to stations to sell- this is what wormhole inhabitants do. Instead, it's an activity that promotes teamwork and sharing responsibilities in a corp. An op always has a dedicated salvager in a specialized ship.
And the important part is really teamwork. Trust in your fleet/corpmates, improving as an entity are the best parts of MMOs. So why not invite someone to loot and salvage with you? Fly with buddies to lowsec to run the L4s, someone keeping guard, while a small gang pops the rats, someone salvages afterwards? Even with current mechanics, co-operation like this makes PVE fun. Couple this with vastly improved rat AI, and we have something that would promote some nice brosefing in New Eden. Why not form a larger group, and assume control of a small pocket of lowsec? Keep the baddies out while you run the missions, and suddenly content has been created for not only you, but to the baddies as well.
As what comes to "destroying hisec" and "forcing people to play my way" BS, whatever changes made to hisec as an endless source of effort-free, anti-social income are good changes. We need to work towards solutions that encourage people to team up, and engage in all the fun that can be had outside the starter zone- to experience EVE at it's best. All these changes are meaningless as long as hisec offers a way to achieve the same, risk-free and bot-like.
And obviously converting bounties to loot would affect all areas outside wormholes.
Some are against, some for, but discussion is always good. Trolls need to step up their game, at least make an effort to be funny. Maybe something comes out of this, but now I'm opening a beer and have an EVE-free festival weekend. Open your minds and chill :)
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
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