How does this effect the top justified HUD users?

I like the new tooltips. They take up a bit too much space but you already figured that out.

Currently if I play in fullscreen mode, tab out and then tab back in I get the F1 tooltip in the top left corner of the game which stays there until I mouseover another module. Bug I guess?

If you add a setting for adjusting the tooltip delay please make it more granular than whole seconds, at least for shorter durations. 0.5 would be nice, perhaps 0.25 increments from 0 to 1, then whole seconds up to 3 beyond that.

Currently if I play in fullscreen mode, tab out and then tab back in I get the F1 tooltip in the top left corner of the game which stays there until I mouseover another module. Bug I guess?

If you have the HUD aligned to top, the tooltips appear below the module you are mousing over.

Hey everyone
Re-vamping the size and content of the window. IGÇÖm wondering if we shouldnGÇÖt condense the gun and ammo part of the tooltip into a better format, so the tooltip still contains the same information, but takes up less space.

Re-vamping the size and content of the window. IGÇÖm wondering if we shouldnGÇÖt condense the gun and ammo part of the tooltip into a better format, so the tooltip still contains the same information, but takes up less space.

I'd love to see a more compact tooltip, I want to be able to see my optimal and falloff at a quick glance. but most of the rest of the stuff is what I already know from when I fit the ship and loaded the ammo.

IMHO much better option to present those "tooltip" data would be dedicated part of ship's HUD just like effects bar with an option to hide it completely just as currently we have for passive modules for example.

OR

If we really have to have it as a tooltip it should be at least 50% of current size with only text information without icons and huge space between lines.

I fixed that bug yesterday and the fix was deployed today

Quoting myself from another "tooltip" thread:



Just my 0.2 ISK

Quoting myself from another "tooltip" thread:

IMHO much better option to present those "tooltip" data would be dedicated part of ship's HUD just like effects bar with an option to hide it completely just as currently we have for passive modules for example.

Hey everyone

We launched the new tooltips a few days ago and weGÇÖve gotten a lot of feedback. Getting quick access to useful information is pretty awesome and IGÇÖd love to extend this type of functionality to other modules down the road.

There are a few issues we need to deal with though, primarily relating to the speed at which it pops up and the positioning of the box. WeGÇÖre going to add two things today: First of all, weGÇÖre going to add a one second delay when hovering over modules, so the pop-up is less intrusive. Secondly, weGÇÖre going to move the tooltip away from the module you hover over. These two changes should make the feature more useful and hopefully less intrusive for the players that are not interested in constantly seeing the tooltip.

Other changes weGÇÖre looking at:

Global tooltip delay setting: This would be an option to set a global delay to ALL tooltips, somewhere in the 0-3 second range. It would be located in the escape menu and is in my opinion the ideal solution. The downside is that it will affect a lot of different tooltips and making sure it works correctly across the game takes a bit of time.

Disabling tooltips completely. This would basically be a button that lets you disable all tooltips in the game by selecting it. That means no more stuff popping up anywhere, giving you a cleaner UI if you feel the tips aren't helpful anymore.

Re-vamping the size and content of the window. IGÇÖm wondering if we shouldnGÇÖt condense the gun and ammo part of the tooltip into a better format, so the tooltip still contains the same information, but takes up less space.

Disabling the module tooltip only. Adding an option to disable a single type of window isn't the best solution. We already have a myriad of options regarding the HUD and adding another one isn't really ideal. This is really using a chainsaw on the problem and while it definitely remains an option, it's certainly the least attractive one. If the more graceful solutions aren't enough though, we can revert to this.

Anyway, the delay and position change is being implemented today. Feedback is appreciated while we consider the longer term options.

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Please, please disable it.
Since I heard about the new tooltips, I haven't even logged in due to fear of seeing them and biomassing.
Let me know when they are fixed, and I'll be back in action.

With the new module tooltips is there a way to turn them off?

We updated the new module button tooltips today, Friday, in Inferno 1.2.2, based on your feedback.

Please find information on the new and updated tooltips in this post from CCP Soundwave: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=142498

We'd love to hear your feedback on today's update in that thread.

Hey everyone

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Other changes weGÇÖre looking at:

[A] Global tooltip delay setting: This would be an option to set a global delay to ALL tooltips, somewhere in the 0-3 second range. It would be located in the escape menu and is in my opinion the ideal solution. The downside is that it will affect a lot of different tooltips and making sure it works correctly across the game takes a bit of time.

[.B] Disabling tooltips completely. This would basically be a button that lets you disable all tooltips in the game by selecting it. That means no more stuff popping up anywhere, giving you a cleaner UI if you feel the tips aren't helpful anymore.

[C] Re-vamping the size and content of the window. IGÇÖm wondering if we shouldnGÇÖt condense the gun and ammo part of the tooltip into a better format, so the tooltip still contains the same information, but takes up less space.

[D] Disabling the module tooltip only. Adding an option to disable a single type of window isn't the best solution. We already have a myriad of options regarding the HUD and adding another one isn't really ideal. This is really using a chainsaw on the problem and while it definitely remains an option, it's certainly the least attractive one. [b]If the more graceful solutions aren't enough though, we can revert to this.

Anyway, the delay and position change is being implemented today. Feedback is appreciated while we consider the longer term options.

Re-vamping the size and content of the window. IGÇÖm wondering if we shouldnGÇÖt condense the gun and ammo part of the tooltip into a better format, so the tooltip still contains the same information, but takes up less space.

so the on/off option, where did it go?

I refuse, saw screenshots of how clunky and huge they were, I just don't even want to deal with them (got a long skill in que I think)
*not like I am capable of doing anything in-game anyways :P

I don't mind tooltips, they are actually helpful, especially when detailed, but these were over the top, more black space than information...which the information provided wasn't that useful :/ annnnd I hate to admit it, but I hate using my Fkeys, so I frequently mouse my modules so they would pop up and confuse the hell out of me.
Couldn't the tooltip just be along the lines of the "show info' options


EDIT: I'm not mad, just offering feedback

Could you pleeeeease try them out... just for me
There is a delay now, so now you can mouse your modules, and the tooltips don't appear right away (1 second is way longer than I thought it was... when I was implementing it I actually timed it to make sure it was only a second because in my head second is so short so I wasn't sure it was doing the right thing )

stuff n things

Ok, I'll test it out later tonight when I get off work. ( they made me stop bringing the laptop up here to play QQ)

ETA: 5h 20m til test sequence

Thank you

Also curious where "up here" is

Hey everyone

First of all, weGÇÖre going to add a one second delay when hovering over modules, so the pop-up is less intrusive.

Appearance Delay - from 0 = "Never appear", through steps from 0.1 to 2.0 seconds

this delay tooltip, that add today, too long appear... annoying

want fast see(for example how optimal+fallow), but now need long wait

Could you pleeeeease try them out... just for me
There is a delay now, so now you can mouse your modules, and the tooltips don't appear right away (1 second is way longer than I thought it was... when I was implementing it I actually timed it to make sure it was only a second because in my head second is so short so I wasn't sure it was doing the right thing )

if we've forgotten what module it was already, tooltips are the least of our problems

The Tooltips are perfectly fine!

I am a new player in EVE [...]

The Tooltips are perfectly fine!

I am a new player in EVE and these tooltips are so helpful! I have been playing for 2 months. I guess you could add a bit more transparency.

One thing that would be helpful is more information! Why can't I see how much my Remote Armor Repper repairs? Etc. Just work on getting more info for more modules, and turn give an option to turn the tooltips off for the people that don't like them (in the menu next to the capacitor where you can turn on numeric armor display amongst other stuff would be a convenient plac to do it).

But the tooltips serve their purpose just fine! I am a new player, and it made the game much more user friendly without dumbing it down..

Global tooltip delay setting: This would be an option to set a global delay to ALL tooltips, somewhere in the 0-3 second range. It would be located in the escape menu and is in my opinion the ideal solution. The downside is that it will affect a lot of different tooltips and making sure it works correctly across the game takes a bit of time.

Disabling tooltips completely. This would basically be a button that lets you disable all tooltips in the game by selecting it. That means no more stuff popping up anywhere, giving you a cleaner UI if you feel the tips aren't helpful anymore.

Option to turn it off please. Thank you.

Global tooltip delay setting: This would be an option to set a global delay to ALL tooltips, somewhere in the 0-3 second range. It would be located in the escape menu and is in my opinion the ideal solution. The downside is that it will affect a lot of different tooltips and making sure it works correctly across the game takes a bit of time.

Hey everyone
Adding an option to disable a single type of window isn't the best solution. We already have a myriad of options regarding the HUD and adding another one isn't really ideal.

Is tooltips popping up when you activate a module a bug? Really annoying either way.

Disabling the module tooltip only. Adding an option to disable a single type of window isn't the best solution. We already have a myriad of options regarding the HUD and adding another one isn't really ideal. This is really using a chainsaw on the problem and while it definitely remains an option, it's certainly the least attractive one. If the more graceful solutions aren't enough though, we can revert to this.

Anyway, the delay and position change is being implemented today. Feedback is appreciated while we consider the longer term options.

You're joking right?

The UI options in EvE are VERY limited compared to most large MMOs. Especially for a game with so much complextity, the options menu and the choices available for any kind of real customization are very lacking.

Why is giving the users more control over the interface considered a bad thing? Is an elegant options menu really more important than actual gameplay?

It's definitely better to have a complex options menu that users only have to deal with once or twice, than being forced to use an annoying interface change always. Most users would appreciate more flexibility and choice in managing the interface to better fit their play-style. Are you really worried that you will get a lot of angry posts from people about how your options menu has too many confusing choices, and allows for too much customization?

Any idea when I can turn this module tooltip off?

The delay helps if you are a mouse clicker but not for button users i.e. the tooltip pops-up instantly and does'nt disapear until you hover your mouse over another module.

Any idea when I can turn this module tooltip off?

The delay helps if you are a mouse clicker but not for button users i.e. the tooltip pops-up instantly and does'nt disapear until you hover your mouse over another module.

The tooltip is only supposed to appear when you hover over the button for more than 1 second.

What you are describing is a bug that I fixed right before I left work tonight, and the fix will hopefully go out tomorrow
This is the same issue as the one Xeverius and Siyis Rholh were describing.

Can they be turned off now?

A little update.....

After today's downtime, you will see some changes to the tooltips.

• The icons have been made smaller, and the tooltips have been condensed a lot.
• Opacity was changed, so now they are a bit more transparent.
• The tooltip will now disappear when you right click the module, and will not appear again while the menu is open
• A bug where the tooltip would occasionally appear and get stuck when activating modules with shortcuts has been fixed

I hope you guys will like these changes

I like the new tooltips. They take up a bit too much space but you already figured that out.

Currently if I play in fullscreen mode, tab out and then tab back in I get the F1 tooltip in the top left corner of the game which stays there until I mouseover another module. Bug I guess?

If you add a setting for adjusting the tooltip delay please make it more granular than whole seconds, at least for shorter durations. 0.5 would be nice, perhaps 0.25 increments from 0 to 1, then whole seconds up to 3 beyond that. Shorter durations would be for people who either don't mind the tooltips at all or rarely mouseover modules but want the tooltip to appear quickly when they do - and even a quarter of a second difference would be a matter of taste there. Longer would be for people who don't want the tooltip to pop up when they click modules but still want them present if they want to check something in the tooltip and in that case the exact time shouldn't be as relevant.

CCP Karkur, after a semi extensive test run I must say, it is actually far worse than I thought.
The box is unimaginably large, the information should be crammed with minimal space between, as well as losing the icons...they are a bit redundant and not necessary~icon flashing like that reminds me of WoW, I don't care what it looks like, just how it performs.

The delay is not too terrible actually. I would still prefer an option to disable, beit from 0-1-2 seconds or just its either on, or off I don't care, but I do not want to see it most of the time.

With that said, I'm about to put a long skill in queue in preparation of the next patch (or at least until they shrink a tad).

Thanks for giving a try.
They have shrunk a lot so I hope you have started logging in and doing spacestuff and all is good in New Eden

Thanks for giving a try.
They have shrunk a lot so I hope you have started logging in and doing spacestuff and all is good in New Eden

So are the iterations on the tooltips done now? Don't recall hearing any more about customized delays, removing the icons, adding info beyond turrets, etc.

Is an elegant options menu really more important than actual gameplay?