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Tom Gerard
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Posted - 2010.12.04 14:48:00 -
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Why do people ask me what I do in EVE if only to insult and flame?
I am constantly mocked by highsec elitist because I live in null sec.
My income ratting in Venal is about 20m per hour, I.do so at considerable risk.
After hearing my gameplay style they slam me with the I make four times that doing 4s.
Do you ask people questions just to bash their responses?
Are 4s really more profitable for zero risk?
Are these elitist morons?
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.12.04 14:51:00 -
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Wait, what? -
I wish I was a three foot tall doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes |
Shimasu
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Posted - 2010.12.04 14:55:00 -
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ITS CALLED SEX PANTHER - im for sale! |
Sigos
Knights of Kador Black Inquisition
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Posted - 2010.12.04 14:56:00 -
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Even with as young as you are, how are you making only 20m per hour in 0.0?
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Hacra
Minmatar Cosmodynamics Joint Venture Conglomerate
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Posted - 2010.12.04 14:56:00 -
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Ratting, you're doing it wrong
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Isaac Apylon
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2010.12.04 14:59:00 -
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I have no idea what this thread is about, but going off the title and little information you gave, I do in fact make more than you do by missioning in hisec (before lp, even), 20 mil an hour is pretty damn terrible, and I am in fact a mission master. Missions bow before me.
Oddly enough, I don't think I've ever heard of hisec elitist morons. Most of those tend to come from nullsec.
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/ |
Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.12.04 15:06:00 -
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Ceiling JitaTrader is watching you MissionRun. _
Beginner's ISK making guide | Manufacturer's helper | All about reacting _
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2010.12.04 15:19:00 -
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20m an hour? I made more than that ratting crap belts in soli with a missile ferox 4 years ago.
But yeah, some of those high end missioners (with ridiculously expensive faction fits) think they're really special. They're also really stupid. I was in a fleet with one CNR pilot salvaging for him, and we got a ninja salvager which he shot at and he left the deadspace. I did what any smart player would do and spammed the directional scanner within 600,000 kms and noticed an Abaddon pop up. I warned him immediately to align and get ready to warp out.
Long story short, 3 bil faction fitted CNR got melted and the dumbass even knew it was coming.
Oh yeah, about my sig... you have now read it.
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Dani WH
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Posted - 2010.12.04 15:29:00 -
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20m per hour is not so terrible, you will make better in the future though.
P.S. don't believe everything you read on the internet. You know what e-peniis is
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.12.04 15:31:00 -
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The mission runners are idiots anyway, spending billions of ISK on officer/faction mods just to make the killing of the same npcs over and over, a little quicker. You play the way the game was intended, they just take the bottom feeders option.
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Kalle Demos
Amarr Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.12.04 15:36:00 -
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Must be a really **** macro if you are only making 20m an hour
Originally by: Kool StoryBro <---
Originally by: CCP Spitfire Spam post removed.
Random forum moments ftw |
Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.04 15:44:00 -
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No, you just make really low income for nullsec.
But thats OK because **most** ppl make low isk running 4's also. Then, Once you have a super High DPS ganktank, you can make a lot more doing null ratting or hisec missioning. I've seen ppl get 100mil+ an hour on just bounties down there.
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NewGit
Caldari Rusty Industries
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Posted - 2010.12.04 15:52:00 -
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I personally could care less if I'm making 20 mil/hour ratting, 2 mil an hour mining ice, or 2 mil a day doing (whatever), as long as I'm enjoying whatever it is I'm doing.
If someone else has a problem with that, then it's their problem, not mine and they can kiss my hairy white @ss (if I can be bothered to lift it from the chair long enough for them to get the full pucker).
And ratting in 0.0 is not only good isk, it's good for your sec rating, and the risk just makes it more exciting. Much more so than grinding the same missions over and over again (and that's coming from someone who has been grinding L4s for the better part of the last year, getting standings up for a handful of toons). Much rather be having null sec fun ! *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Member of the PTA (Pod Tankers Anonymous)
Real carebears pod-tank !
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TriadSte
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.12.04 15:58:00 -
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I think that making 20 mil an hour ratting with quite an amount of risk is a little silly from my personal point of view.
4s do make alot more isk than that with absolutely zero risk unless your wardecced.
However Id rather mix it up a bit mission some days and rat the other and make less isk but because of that risk factor, the game doesn't become boring and stagnant.
There are some lvl4 runners who are complete prats with there 5-10-20-30-40 billion isk deadspace fits. Its just not needed for PVE, Nothing beats a 3 billion isk CNR for mission speed.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.04 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: TriadSte I think that making 20 mil an hour ratting with quite an amount of risk is a little silly from my personal point of view.
4s do make alot more isk than that with absolutely zero risk unless your wardecced.
However Id rather mix it up a bit mission some days and rat the other and make less isk but because of that risk factor, the game doesn't become boring and stagnant.
There are some lvl4 runners who are complete prats with there 5-10-20-30-40 billion isk deadspace fits. Its just not needed for PVE, Nothing beats a 3 billion isk CNR for mission speed.
Which is the point, most mission runners don't have that setup, therefore there is risk and they aren't making big ISK. I.E.
No, you aren't taking much of a risk when missioning in a CNR with 20Msp that cost several billion.
Yes, you are taking a risk when you fly a 2Msp raven into a l4.
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2010.12.04 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: TriadSte I think that making 20 mil an hour ratting with quite an amount of risk is a little silly from my personal point of view.
4s do make alot more isk than that with absolutely zero risk unless your wardecced.
Please go look up the words "absolute" and "zero". Everytime I hit that Undock button, that's risk. The only thing "zero" about it is the EM resist on my 1.2 bil faction fitted Tengu. I don't even want to think of how fast it would explode if someone felt like suicide ganking it. And my income? About 40m an hour I would guess, nothing outrageous... but I don't dual box like most "hardcore" missioners apparently do.
Oh yeah, about my sig... you have now read it.
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Hecatonis
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.12.04 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: TriadSte I think that making 20 mil an hour ratting with quite an amount of risk is a little silly from my personal point of view.
4s do make alot more isk than that with absolutely zero risk unless your wardecced.
umm, i think your wrong here. yes there are pilots that run Lvl 4s without any risk, but they have been doing it for some time now. and they have made the money to buy multi billion isk ships. for your average mission runner there is risk. infact i just ran a mission that i almost lost my ship because i popped the wrong guy and had the 2 dozen ships spawn on me.
what you getting confused about is the fact that its a different kind of risk. if your not paying attention you will die. you need to follow an entire room of agro units, targeting the biggest threats, managing your cap and reps, along with drone. in my case it was because 4 of my drones started attacking someone i wasn't targeting and i didnt notice, until i was scrammed but an over whelming force.
and given the fact that my ships are a lot more expensive then an pvp fit in the same class, a loss on my part is harder to come back from.
making 20 mil/hour in 0.0 ratting is just wrong, you should be getting a lot more then that, but 99% of the lvl 4 mission runners dont get this magical 200mill/hour people think we do.
chill people, we all play the game differently, and the great thing about the sandbox is, we are all doing it right
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it440
Caldari OZ industries and Technology
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Posted - 2010.12.04 20:18:00 -
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OP maybe your skills are holding you back, having your torpedo and battleship skill(s) maxed out will help a hella lot but idk if thats you problem.
a pilot with good skills could make 20b an hour doing lvl 3s i think (havent done them in a long while)
there is risk with lvl 4s but if your paying attention it is very little risk if you know the triggers.
CCP supports this message. I think. |
Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.12.04 20:20:00 -
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Everything in the OP is a troll except the first and 5th sentences.
My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
TriadSte
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.12.04 21:15:00 -
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I really do not understand people thinking theres risk with missioning in high sec. Its almost risk free totally...
If you do not aggro a ninja then the only person attempting to kill you are suicide gankers. This only applies if your flying multi billion isk setups and they have stalked you out and done proper recon on ship plus setup and system.
If you know how the game works you can smile and wave at guys trying to get aggro from you.
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Shiho Weitong
Caldari Koa Mai Hoku
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Posted - 2010.12.04 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: Shiho Weitong on 04/12/2010 21:30:16 Risk? In highsec missions? Not in my eve.
Seriously. I just spent a couple days lazy running lvl 4's in a drake.
Not a lol damage passive fit mind you, in a fit with 3 BCU's and an AB.
Seriously. DCU II, 2x lse and 3 rat specs and you're golden. If you die, it's because you suck.
Ed: spend/spent ----------- Why is it called common sense, when it's clearly very rare.
I had a mind once, but alas, I seem to have forgotten where I left it.
Originally by: Tchell Dahhn You win, and thank you. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2010.12.04 21:34:00 -
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20b an hour running level 3s? what are you smoking?
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TriadSte
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.12.04 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon 20b an hour running level 3s? what are you smoking?
Agreed, can i haz some?
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it440
Caldari OZ industries and Technology
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Posted - 2010.12.04 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: TriadSte I really do not understand people thinking theres risk with missioning in high sec. Its almost risk free totally...
i do not understand you.
about the 20b an hour replies to me, i have heard of ppl blitzing lvl 3s in tengus and doing well but as i said before im not sure. CCP supports this message. I think. |
Lady Aja
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.05 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Isaac Apylon Oddly enough, I don't think I've ever heard of hisec elitist morons. Most of those tend to come from nullsec.
lvl 4 channel used to b full of them, either in npc corps or one of a few corps ready to jump aty 1st sign of trouble/wardec. showing off thier 10-20b isk prized mission ships, bleating about how they are greatful low sec is ar away.
slightest hint of low sec missions or 0.0 missions/ratting they would troll your ass.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
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Posted - 2010.12.05 00:23:00 -
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I was recruiting the other day, and some guy was saying why do incursions, i get more isk per hour doing level 4's and lvl 5's are a waste of time and they are all in low sec.
I was thinking, what an idiot, incursions are more for fun and get concord items. Who cares about isk / hr ratio. What is the point of having all that money if you arent going to use it?
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Birdman Ravo
Legion of The Birds
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Posted - 2010.12.05 02:40:00 -
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For me, it's all about time and money. 30M isk an hour is great, but in PVP I can (do) lose that much within 5-10 minutes. So in my eyes it makes no sense at all to grind for isk in an environment that I can lose isk 6-10 times faster than I make it.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.05 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: Birdman Ravo For me, it's all about time and money. 30M isk an hour is great, but in PVP I can (do) lose that much within 5-10 minutes. So in my eyes it makes no sense at all to grind for isk in an environment that I can lose isk 6-10 times faster than I make it.
Yeeah you don't loose PVE ships in Null unless you are ******ed and go AFK.
On an unrelated topic I have to alt tab back and switch targets.
<3 living in the North.
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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Forum Guy
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Posted - 2010.12.05 02:53:00 -
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Edited by: Forum Guy on 05/12/2010 02:56:06
Originally by: Tom Gerard Why do people ask me what I do in EVE if only to insult and flame?
I am constantly mocked by highsec elitist because I live in null sec.
My income ratting in Venal is about 20m per hour, I.do so at considerable risk.
After hearing my gameplay style they slam me with the I make four times that doing 4s.
Do you ask people questions just to bash their responses?
Are 4s really more profitable for zero risk?
Are these elitist morons?
If they are mocking you why take any notice, just ignore them.
I used to make 1 billion isk ratting in 0.0 in a week. (5 day week in-game)
What do you care what they make as long as you are enjoying what you do why worry about them.
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2010.12.05 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Originally by: Birdman Ravo For me, it's all about time and money. 30M isk an hour is great, but in PVP I can (do) lose that much within 5-10 minutes. So in my eyes it makes no sense at all to grind for isk in an environment that I can lose isk 6-10 times faster than I make it.
Yeeah you don't loose PVE ships in Null unless you are ******ed and go AFK.
On an unrelated topic I have to alt tab back and switch targets.
<3 living in the North.
Aint that the truth... I've lost more ships in missions than I have ratting in null-sec. That is to say I've lost exactly zero ships ratting in null-sec (I lived a year in pirate infested Syndicate). Sure, there are interruptions but the isk is so easy with very little logistics involved. I towed a Badger full of ammo to an anchored can once a week and, well, that was about all I did other than belt hop all day.
Oh yeah, about my sig... you have now read it.
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