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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
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Posted - 2012.08.10 20:13:00 -
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CCP has provided you with all the tools you need to jump inside the mission and ruin the mission runner's day. If you are incompetent in doing so, it's your problem, not a game problem. Please stop asking CCP to do your job for you.
If you are clueless as per what to do, please head over to C&P and ask for directions.
"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" |
Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
75
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Posted - 2012.08.10 20:19:00 -
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Or just go out to low and nul and blast each other you mindless heathen cretins. We 1%ers want nothing to do with your trash. |
Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.08.10 20:45:00 -
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I haven't seen a thread about nerfing level 4s in a while. Who are you talking to?
EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Hiyora Akachi
Bling Ring Tax Evaders
96
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Posted - 2012.08.10 20:47:00 -
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There was one earlier, its gone now but it was there. |
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
445
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Posted - 2012.08.10 20:48:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:I haven't seen a thread about nerfing level 4s in a while. Who are you talking to?
Nerf Bounties, Move l4 out of high sec, etc... they pop up weekly.
"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
630
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Posted - 2012.08.10 20:52:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:I haven't seen a thread about nerfing level 4s in a while. Who are you talking to?
Probably to all of those carebears who don't know he can go there and bait them with a cheapo throw away frig and then come back with a spec ship to kill it.
Another uber Elite PVP thread... what would we do without them?
Answer: the game would be better for everyone.
brb |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
459
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Posted - 2012.08.10 20:53:00 -
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L4s don't need to be nerfed. Nullsec ratting needs to be buffed.
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Renan Ruivo
Irmandade
Vera Cruz Alliance
845
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Posted - 2012.08.10 20:59:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:L4s don't need to be nerfed. Nullsec ratting needs to be buffed.
Just a little bit, and they need to make it harder to rat with capital ships.
Level 4's are fine. Most serious runners will only invest a couple bil at most on an efficient ship and farm LP's to sell faction stuff. It feeds the market and it does not creates money (most of it, anyway) out of thin ice.
The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die. |
Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
Still Censored
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:07:00 -
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Change can be good. Don't be afraid. |
Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
480
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:09:00 -
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Oh man, I thought those threads were just opportunities for trolling...
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Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy
Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:21:00 -
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I wonder if EveO is getting to a place where all the constant changes (plus and minus) will begin to affect the userbase's willingness to continue playing. No, I'm not saying it's dying. Just wondering if CCP has considered just chilling out for a while and letting the player base get comfortable with the game as it is... |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1680
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:35:00 -
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I miss threads from mission runners complaining about ninja salvagers.
There were plenty when i started playing, but i don't see any anymore. :(
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Traejun DiSanctis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:41:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:L4s don't need to be nerfed. Nullsec ratting needs to be buffed.
This... so much. My income from ratting Serpentis was many many many times more than mission running ever was. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:55:00 -
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Mission runners tend to run missions to make isk to run missions better till they get ganked in their 15 bil golem and quit.
Theres should be some direction for players to take that gently gets them into other aspects of eve, perhaps a cap on agents total missions he/she can hand out for a player?
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Ensign X
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:01:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:Theres should be some direction for players to take that gently gets them into other aspects of eve, perhaps a cap on agents total missions he/she can hand out for a player?
Terrible idea. You can't force somebody to play the game you want. What's next? A cap on the amount of PI products you can produce in one month? A cap on the number of Sleeper NPCs you can blow up? Cap the number of jumps Freighter pilots can make? Sorry, but it's back to the drawing board for you. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1260
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:06:00 -
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Ensign X wrote:Muad 'dib wrote:Theres should be some direction for players to take that gently gets them into other aspects of eve, perhaps a cap on agents total missions he/she can hand out for a player? Terrible idea. You can't force somebody to play the game you want. What's next? A cap on the amount of PI products you can produce in one month? A cap on the number of Sleeper NPCs you can blow up? Cap the number of jumps Freighter pilots can make? Sorry, but it's back to the drawing board for you.
Yeah that actually makes little sense.
Besides, I hear l4s are pretty damn boring and their own punishment. I'm just about to do some standings grinding so we'll see..
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
275
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:11:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:Mission runners tend to run missions to make isk to run missions better till they get ganked in their 15 bil golem and quit.
Theres should be some direction for players to take that gently gets them into other aspects of eve, perhaps a cap on agents total missions he/she can hand out for a player?
Just how many different multibillion isk mission running rigs are you encountering on your travels? |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
1205
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:12:00 -
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There are like 5 people who think lvl 4s need a nerf. Most just think they just need improvements. |
Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
Still Censored
1
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:12:00 -
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The whole PVE system needs a revamp. How missions are done and rewards, also how loot works(in general). Sadly most will cry foul and say its a nerf because they are too stuck in their ways to see how damaging the current system really is. Not only from a economic standpoint but also from a new player retention aspect.
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
374
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:20:00 -
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Okay a flat out limit on missions was way too harsh, what i mean to say is how about adding soming that gets them into probing plexing sometimes, or pvp or whatever really. Give qa huge bonus to the mission rewards for missions out of the 'normal' like the once in 100 combat missions thats a hauling mission, that everyone turns down instantly.
I did my fair share of agent running but it got boring so i sought out other fun to do with my mission isk.
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Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
Still Censored
1
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:24:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:Okay a flat out limit on missions was way too harsh, what i mean to say is how about adding soming that gets them into probing plexing sometimes, or pvp or whatever really. Give qa huge bonus to the mission rewards for missions out of the 'normal' like the once in 100 combat missions thats a hauling mission, that everyone turns down instantly.
I did my fair share of agent running but it got boring so i sought out other fun to do with my mission isk.
They somewhat started this idea with "Epic Arc" missions. However they seem to have steered away from it and have focused on other things. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
275
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:31:00 -
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Syler Puuntai wrote:Muad 'dib wrote:Okay a flat out limit on missions was way too harsh, what i mean to say is how about adding soming that gets them into probing plexing sometimes, or pvp or whatever really. Give qa huge bonus to the mission rewards for missions out of the 'normal' like the once in 100 combat missions thats a hauling mission, that everyone turns down instantly.
I did my fair share of agent running but it got boring so i sought out other fun to do with my mission isk. They somewhat started this idea with "Epic Arc" missions. However they seem to have steered away from it and have focused on other things.
It doesn't currently feel like CCP has any real PvE focus save income balance as of late. As such any strong push for truly new content as well as further development of some existing content for the sake of making it engaging or using it to introduce other aspects may be a while in coming. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
374
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:35:00 -
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My experience with agent running (right upto a max missions completion speed CNR) was that once i got there all i did was help others get there and chain missions after mission for isk i didnt really need.
The epic arcs are good, but there needs to be a link to the actual agents and rewards for doing them as a lvl 4 referral etc
Right now, you run missions, get isk, run more missions. Its a closed circuit.
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
275
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:41:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:My experience with agent running (right upto a max missions completion speed CNR) was that once i got there all i did was help others get there and chain missions after mission for isk i didnt really need.
The epic arcs are good, but there needs to be a link to the actual agents and rewards for doing them as a lvl 4 referral etc
Right now, you run missions, get isk, run more missions. Its a closed circuit.
This is the same for any stream of income which provides income that can be reinvested into that activity. Industry has the same progression, but lacks the same stigma for a variety of reasons. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
467
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:46:00 -
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Why does the game need more PvE content?
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Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
Still Censored
1
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:48:00 -
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For general missions there really doesn't need to be any divine purpose or a set goal. It really just needs to be more dynamic and engaging, and random. |
Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
Still Censored
1
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:49:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Why does the game need more PvE content?
Its not really about more its about revamping the old system.
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
275
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Posted - 2012.08.10 23:04:00 -
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The reason I bring up concepts like that are the claims that missions are somehow a totally isolated activity that has no place in the sandbox (at least right up till a mission runner claims his gameplay doesn't affect anyone else. Suddenly then the mission runner is an integral part of the eve economy). |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
Reckless Ambition
332
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Posted - 2012.08.10 23:12:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Oh man, I thought those threads were just opportunities for trolling...
I would, but I don't wanna get banned.
Again.
L4s are fine, although advanced AI + less mobs + omni-tank/damage and PvP tactics would be most welcome.
There is a fine and proper artistry to wielding verbal scalpels, such that the crap-poster you've slashed doesn't even know they've been cut.
But verbal bludgeons -- Those are just fun. |
Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
480
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Posted - 2012.08.10 23:41:00 -
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Lyrrashae wrote:Karl Hobb wrote:Oh man, I thought those threads were just opportunities for trolling... I would, but I don't wanna get banned. Again.
Amusingly, CCP seems to think forums alts on a banned account are fine. vOv
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