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mirel yirrin
Gallente
Ore Mongers
BAT PHONE
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Posted - 2010.12.06 04:28:00 -
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Most modern games come with some kind of Achievement system.
But what if EvE had them too?
Post your ideas!
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Stan Smith
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Posted - 2010.12.06 04:31:00 -
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they do exist. they're called certificates
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mirel yirrin
Gallente
Ore Mongers
BAT PHONE
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Posted - 2010.12.06 04:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Stan Smith
they do exist. they're called certificates
An XBL-type system, I mean.
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Culmen
Caldari
Blood Phage Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.06 04:47:00 -
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Edited by: Culmen on 06/12/2010 04:47:51
Achievement: Google Is Your Enemy
10 points
Suggest something in the forum that has been suggested by at least 10 other people,
in 10 or more threads.
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2010.12.06 04:53:00 -
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Achievement- lose a dramiel to a badger.
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Gallians
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Posted - 2010.12.06 05:07:00 -
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Achievement: Oh no you diin't - Use a badger in the Alliance tournament.
Badgerownd: Lost in the alliance tournament to a team fielding a badger
WTF: Lose a ship while autopiloting through low or null sec
Bareback: Lose an uninsured ship
I wish I knew how to quit you: Lose a clone while your medical clone is insufficient
And suddenly: Get suicide ganked while holding 2 bill worth of goods in hold.
Seriously fix insurance: Get suicide ganked while holding less than 2 billion worth of goods in hold.
Bittervet: Get over 100 mill sp total
There's some starting ones.
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Tyber Zaan
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Posted - 2010.12.06 05:17:00 -
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"I'm sorry, Dave"- Visit the monolith in the Dead End system.
"Pod Pilot Pilgrimage"- Visit the New Eden system and drop a can marked "I was here".
"Skill training completed" - Train a skill to any level.
"The blood-stained stars"- Complete the rookie epic arc.
"So close..."- Get pod killed in a low-sec entrance system.
"...Yet so far."- Get pod killed in a null-sec entrance system.
"Curious Explorer"- Enter a wormhole class one or above.
"Daring Explorer"- Enter a wormhole class three or above.
"Dedicated Explorer"- Enter a wormhole class five or above.
"Lore hunter"- Visit the following anomalies in W-space: "Oruze construct" "Quarantine zone"
"Oruze Obynsynk" "The line" "The mirror"
"Dedicated lore hunter"- Collect all the information broadcast at "The mirror".
more to come.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
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Posted - 2010.12.06 05:24:00 -
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"Taking you all with me" - Killing 5 or more ships with 1 bomb and killing yourself in the same explosion.
"Epic suicide" - Podding yourself with your own bomb - yes this is possible, just takes a lot to set up and some friends.
"bomb fail" - destroying your own ship with your own bomb.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.12.06 05:46:00 -
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More ideas in the stale thread on the Features and Ideas Discussion forum: Achievements.
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Gallians
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Posted - 2010.12.06 06:07:00 -
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Originally by: Stan Smith
they do exist. they're called certificates
Certificates are horrible. It is generally a bad idea having what you can do be displayed for the world to see in a game like this.
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Br41n
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.12.06 07:54:00 -
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lets not add those useless kiddy achievements in this game...
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2010.12.06 07:59:00 -
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I would support achiEVEments but only if it was a manditory public display like standings so everyone can see the embarrasing ones.
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Florio
Miniature Giant Space Hamsters
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Posted - 2010.12.06 08:10:00 -
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cute idea, but doesn't eve already offer the OCD's enough to chew on?
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2010.12.06 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Br41n
lets not add those useless kiddy achievements in this game...
I don't knwo all the ideas so far are things like "get killed in low sec"
or
Get podded
I think they are wonderfully inline with eve if they are negative :P See vets running around trying to get an achievement by dying :P
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SkinSin
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Posted - 2010.12.06 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Gallians
Originally by: Stan Smith
they do exist. they're called certificates
Certificates are horrible. It is generally a bad idea having what you can do be displayed for the world to see in a game like this.
Which is why they are hidden by default.
n00b!
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
Vorpal's Edge
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Posted - 2010.12.06 09:26:00 -
[16]
Originally by: Gallians
Originally by: Stan Smith
they do exist. they're called certificates
Certificates are horrible. It is generally a bad idea having what you can do be displayed for the world to see in a game like this.
depends really.
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Simeon Tor
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Posted - 2010.12.06 09:34:00 -
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Kill one Veldatar - All the points.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.12.06 09:35:00 -
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No.
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AterraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.06 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
No.
+1
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QT McWhiskers
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Posted - 2010.12.06 09:47:00 -
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I say there should an achievement that you cant avoid getting. In some games there are literally achievements for things that happen AUTOMATICALLY in the game. In Front Mission evolved, there is a steam achievement called suiting up. This happens after the first cutscene...
So for eve.
Begin your journey - Log in to eve once.
Engage - Warp to a station or stargate.
Some fun ones.
Its a trap!!! - Commit a hostile action against a non corp member within 10 seconds of decloaking.
Doing your part - Earn 10 public decorations from an NPC or Player Corp.
Surprise!!! - Kill someone using an ORE ship.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.12.06 10:20:00 -
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I rather not have an acheivment system in this game due to the over complexity of it and of course acheivemetns forces players into things they're not comfortable doing.
If they ever do succumb to such system however
Explorer Acheivment would be the bane of many players.
Explore all of Delve. :P
Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 1SEPT10
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Xercodo
Amarr
INESTO Task Force
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Posted - 2010.12.06 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Culmen
Edited by: Culmen on 06/12/2010 04:47:51
Achievement: Google Is Your Enemy
10 points
Suggest something in the forum that has been suggested by at least 10 other people,
in 10 or more threads.
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Posted - 2010.12.06 10:44:00 -
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Shintai
Gallente
Arx Io Orbital Factories
Arx Io
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Posted - 2010.12.06 10:49:00 -
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^^ I agree.
Nothing worse than people that basicly needs to be told what to do. Modern media brainwashing strikes again.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.12.06 11:08:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Gallians
Originally by: Stan Smith
they do exist. they're called certificates
Certificates are horrible.
That's ok: so are achievements.
Anyway: just set up a goal for yourself and award yourself a medal when you achieve it.
Done.
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Buga Buga
ROMANIA Renegades
ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2010.12.06 11:10:00 -
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Eve doesn't need achievements. Killmails are enough. GB2WOW/XBL/Whatever.
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Jennifer Starling
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.12.06 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 06/12/2010 11:28:05
Originally by: Buga Buga
Eve doesn't need achievements.
I absolutely HATE achievements in other games, it's a sad excuse for lack of content.
PLEASE don't infect EVE with that crap!! 
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Buga Buga
ROMANIA Renegades
ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2010.12.06 11:35:00 -
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Forgot to add: Go play THIS for a while, get it out of your system and then come back to Eve :)
I'm a "Shoot me I suck" specialist. |
Nicholas Barker
Diabolus Ex Machina
The Amazing Onjoi and his Educated Rodents
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Posted - 2010.12.06 11:40:00 -
[29]
Originally by: mirel yirrin
>Implying achievements aren't just a giant exercise in time wasting made to increase the longevity of a game without reducing the boredom level.
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Eastman Color
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Posted - 2010.12.06 11:47:00 -
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XBL "achievements" are hokum bull**** put in place to make frat boys wang jobs feel like they've been tugged off by a tranny hooker and accomplished something.
Eve... isn't that kind of game.... or at least I hope it isn't
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.12.06 12:30:00 -
[31]
Originally by: mirel yirrin
Most modern games come with some kind of Achievement system.
And they are not just pointless, but annoying.
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But what if EvE had them too?
Equally pointless and annoying
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Post your ideas!
My idea is to not bother with anything similar.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.12.06 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Eastman Color
XBL "achievements" are hokum bull**** put in place to make frat boys wang jobs feel like they've been tugged off by a tranny hooker and accomplished something.
Eve... isn't that kind of game.... or at least I hope it isn't
+10 internets!
oh **** more worthless points!
I generally get more satisfaction from playing the game, and/or making my own achievements. (okay I did get sucked in by crackdown's do a barrel roll/flip/180/360 in a car achievement, although I probably would have just tried to do all that on my own anyways) the main achievements I seem to get are the ones like you beat this level, now you beat that level, okay you beat the game have useless points!
I like the eve system, some think it is isk, some think it is ships, some think it is sp, some think it is a snazzy hanger full of pimp boats, some like kill mails.
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Bodrul
Caldari
Future Dynamics
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Posted - 2010.12.06 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Eastman Color
XBL "achievements" are hokum bull**** put in place to make frat boys wang jobs feel like they've been tugged off by a tranny hooker and accomplished something.
Eve... isn't that kind of game.... or at least I hope it isn't
+1 agreed
hopefully CCP dont go down this shiiiity path
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Forum Guy
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Posted - 2010.12.06 13:10:00 -
[34]
Originally by: mirel yirrin
Most modern games come with some kind of Achievement system.
But what if EvE had them too?
Post your ideas!
Achievements like the type you get in WoW quite simply ruin the game.
Achievements like in WoW have no place in Eve I'm glad to say.
Certificates in this game are ok because they are only linked to which skills you have learnt.
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.12.06 13:19:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Forum Guy
Achievements like the type you get in WoW quite simply ruin the game.
As I never have played WoW, what exactly are those achievement? Kill the same NPC boss 10 times?
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heheheh
Phoenix Club
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Posted - 2010.12.06 13:19:00 -
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Please god no,
I hate all people that play games just to get achievements, whatever happend to people playing games for fun ??
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.12.06 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Originally by: Forum Guy
Achievements like the type you get in WoW quite simply ruin the game.
As I never have played WoW, what exactly are those achievement? Kill the same NPC boss 10 times?
Kiss 10 different types of animal.
Throw glitter on a person from each class.
fly around the map and click on a person at every little village along the way.
Catch 100 fish
die in a fire
There is NO place for this type of crap in EVE.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.12.06 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Brian Ballsack
die in a fire
There is NO place for this type of crap in EVE.
Oh, I don't knowà that last one seems rather suitable for the setting.
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Forum Guy
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Posted - 2010.12.06 13:30:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Originally by: Forum Guy
Achievements like the type you get in WoW quite simply ruin the game.
As I never have played WoW, what exactly are those achievement? Kill the same NPC boss 10 times?
How many pets you collect.
How many mounts you collect.
Level stages of professions (cooking, blacksmith etc).
For catching a rare fish.
For completing a dungeon (this one can get you into groups to enter the same dungeon, without it, it can exclude you from groups).
How many players you have killed (100, 500, 1000 etc).
1 for each region you have explored.
1 for each region you have completed a set number of quests in.
Achievements for daily quests how many completed.
Achievements come with titles sometimes, one type of achievement has high levels running around doing pointless low level quests they missed out.
Achievements for reputations at exhalted.
I could go on and on, needless to say there are hundreds of them.
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.12.06 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Forum Guy
Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Originally by: Forum Guy
Achievements like the type you get in WoW quite simply ruin the game.
As I never have played WoW, what exactly are those achievement? Kill the same NPC boss 10 times?
How many pets you collect.
How many mounts you collect.
Level stages of professions (cooking, blacksmith etc).
For catching a rare fish.
For completing a dungeon (this one can get you into groups to enter the same dungeon, without it, it can exclude you from groups).
How many players you have killed (100, 500, 1000 etc).
1 for each region you have explored.
1 for each region you have completed a set number of quests in.
Achievements for daily quests how many completed.
Achievements come with titles sometimes, one type of achievement has high levels running around doing pointless low level quests they missed out.
Achievements for reputations at exhalted.
I could go on and on, needless to say there are hundreds of them.
Thanks.
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TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Extreme Prejudice.
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Posted - 2010.12.06 13:48:00 -
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Achievement systems just lead the achievement farming. Certificates are daft enough and cause people to train useless skills because they want the certificate (eg amarr drone specialisation for the drone operator cert).
If you want achievements, create medals for your corp and give them out for things.
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Sid Zero
State Wh0re Academy
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Posted - 2010.12.06 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: mirel yirrin
Most modern games come with some kind of Achievement system.
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Most modern games
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games
Why are you making a post about games on the Eve forums?
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Idril Celebrindar
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Posted - 2010.12.06 13:52:00 -
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No, achievements are bad idea.
Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
"Taking you all with me" - Killing 5 or more ships with 1 bomb and killing yourself in the same explosion.
"Epic suicide" - Podding yourself with your own bomb - yes this is possible, just takes a lot to set up and some friends.
"bomb fail" - destroying your own ship with your own bomb.
LOL, especially "Epic suicide" one
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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
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Posted - 2010.12.06 13:52:00 -
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Of all the horrible ideas I've seen suggested, this is the worst. I guess that's a kind of achievement.
Originally by: Samuel Langhorne Clemens
I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it.
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Joe Skellington
Minmatar
JOKAS Industries
Independent Faction
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Posted - 2010.12.06 16:44:00 -
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This always makes me laugh, EVE just doesn't strike me as a game that uses Achievements like Hello Kitty Online or WoW. It is just a different game. I agree with the "Certificates" being the achievements.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.12.06 17:02:00 -
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Proposing the "You won EVE" achievement.
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Ben Alman
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Posted - 2010.12.06 17:25:00 -
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Edited by: Ben Alman on 06/12/2010 17:25:42
Originally by: Forum Guy
Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Originally by: Forum Guy
Achievements like the type you get in WoW quite simply ruin the game.
As I never have played WoW, what exactly are those achievement? Kill the same NPC boss 10 times?
How many pets you collect.
How many mounts you collect.
Level stages of professions (cooking, blacksmith etc).
For catching a rare fish.
For completing a dungeon (this one can get you into groups to enter the same dungeon, without it, it can exclude you from groups).
How many players you have killed (100, 500, 1000 etc).
1 for each region you have explored.
1 for each region you have completed a set number of quests in.
Achievements for daily quests how many completed.
Achievements come with titles sometimes, one type of achievement has high levels running around doing pointless low level quests they missed out.
Achievements for reputations at exhalted.
I could go on and on, needless to say there are hundreds of them.
You forgot the ones that actually hard to do and reward something.
To make an EVE equivalent:
Do this PLEX escalation in under 30 Minutes with no one In your Fleet using a Battleship/T2ship/Remote repper(whatever, thats up to CCP to decide)
Reward would be a special Pirate ship you couldn't get otherwise.
Lore explanation is something like: Since you came with crappy equipment they thought you are no threat and didn't evacuate their most valuable belongings.
I think eve would actually benefit from stuff like that. Helps to create some diversity.
Or for your PvPs out there: Win a fleet fight while having less than half of the ships(the DPS whatever is a good way to measure fleet strength)
Reward would be an UBER LEET TITLE FOR BADASS PVPs issued by CONCORD ;)
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2010.12.06 17:39:00 -
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i love butthurt pc ***s that think achievements are pointless
it adds something to the game
it doesn't remove anything, it just gives silly little goals
so WHO THE **** CARES
achievements are great on xbox, on wow they were ok also.
so why not eve?
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Tyber Zaan
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Posted - 2010.12.06 17:41:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Herping yourDerp
i love butthurt pc ***s that think achievements are pointless
it adds something to the game
it doesn't remove anything, it just gives silly little goals
so WHO THE **** CARES
achievements are great on xbox, on wow they were ok also.
so why not eve?
I'm a PC gamer and I approve of this message.
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Forum Guy
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Posted - 2010.12.06 18:26:00 -
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Edited by: Forum Guy on 06/12/2010 18:33:03
Originally by: Ben Alman
You forgot the ones that actually hard to do and reward something.
To make an EVE equivalent:
Do this PLEX escalation in under 30 Minutes with no one In your Fleet using a Battleship/T2ship/Remote repper(whatever, thats up to CCP to decide)
Reward would be a special Pirate ship you couldn't get otherwise.
Lore explanation is something like: Since you came with crappy equipment they thought you are no threat and didn't evacuate their most valuable belongings.
I think eve would actually benefit from stuff like that. Helps to create some diversity.
Or for your PvPs out there: Win a fleet fight while having less than half of the ships(the DPS whatever is a good way to measure fleet strength)
Reward would be an UBER LEET TITLE FOR BADASS PVPs issued by CONCORD ;)
Actually it would probably turn Eve into a circus full of clowns just like it has done in WoW.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.12.06 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 06/12/2010 18:37:04
Originally by: Herping yourDerp
it adds something to the game
Yes. Something bad: it adds encouragement for pointless and imagination-deprived behaviour.
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achievements are great on xbox, on wow they were ok also.
so why not eve?
Because EVE is not an XBox game, nor is it WoW.
Again: EVE already has achievements in that particular way that makes EVE special. Just make one up yourself, pursue it, and award yourself a medal when you get there. Achievement unlocked!
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Eastman Color
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Posted - 2010.12.07 10:16:00 -
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Edited by: Eastman Color on 07/12/2010 10:20:34
Originally by: Herping yourDerp
i love butthurt pc ***s that think achievements are pointless
it adds something to the game
it doesn't remove anything, it just gives silly little goals
so WHO THE **** CARES
achievements are great on xbox, on wow they were ok also.
so why not eve?
You know how eve's a sand box?
And how you set your own goals?
Your own "achievements" if you will?
Depriving people of that and adding in corporate constructed achievements just takes eve a step closer to the generic everyman mmo.
You think they'd have one for collecting corpses like the guy in the news the other month? Or collecting veld pre chribba?
Or is it more likely that all the achievements would be things like "visit every system" or "complete x mission n times"?
Eve needs to embrace the fact that it's a different kind of mmo and run with that, not try and take on every gimmick and fotm that the rest of the games industry vomits into birth.
edit:
"achievements are great on xbox" no they're not, they play on people with OCD and without enough realiseation that computer games are supposed to be escapist fun.
If someone can't write enough content for a game to be captivating\entertaining for a decent amount of time, adding in "find all the hidden skulls" is just the punctuation on their failure and people should stop giving them money.
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Jennifer Starling
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.12.07 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Herping yourDerp
achievements are great on xbox, on wow they were ok also.
so why not eve?
No they aren't ok on other games either, they actually ruin normal gameplay as everyone's doing silly nonsensical things for no reason other than "achievements". As I said before, achievement stuff is just a silly excuse for lack of content. I absolutely hate them.
We already have killboards which are already an "achievement board", that's (more than) enough.
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