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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.11 14:05:00 -
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Cobalt Sablestar Icefluxor wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:
Keep up the good work hisec miners, don't let Goons monopolize Eve.
There are at least 10 other factors besides Goons that have driven the numbers down for the past 15 months. Your statement gives them too much credit undeservedly.
Lets not forget the real reason why the highsec miner population has thinned out in the past few months:
CCP finally started cracking down on bots. |

Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
249
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Posted - 2012.08.11 14:31:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:Keep up the good work hisec miners, don't let Goons monopolize Eve. You should thank Goons for their actions showing how silly mining barges and ganking those was. They made a point and actually helped those changes more than everyone, if you can't actually see the picture then look at it deeply 
Thank?
Shee-it we owe our whole game to them, they are the content creators, we should be sending our subs to them... I'm an American, English is my second language... |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1263
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Posted - 2012.08.11 15:27:00 -
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Xython wrote:Cobalt Sablestar Icefluxor wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:Keep up the good work hisec miners, don't let Goons monopolize Eve. There are at least 10 other factors besides Goons that have driven the numbers down for the past 15 months. Your statement gives them too much credit undeservedly. Lets not forget the real reason why the highsec miner population has thinned out in the past few months: CCP finally started cracking down on bots. Oh dear, were the bots creating content in the form of cheaper minerals? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10027
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Posted - 2012.08.11 15:46:00 -
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Xython wrote:Per CCP Sreegs, AFK Mining is an exploit and not an intended use of the game mechanics, as is any form of mass wealth generation done while AFK. http://community.eveonline.com/news/newsFromEve.asp?newsTitle=regarding-afk-complex-farming-1(He apparently clarifies this in the thread: CCP Sreegs wrote:Protip for the future: if your computer is logged in 24 (or way more than a person can) hours a day making money in a way that is meant to be active and you're not in front of it you're probably doing something wrong ) Erm, not to step on your toes or anything but he actually said the following, in regards to AFK mining.
CCP Sreegs wrote:Darth Skorpius wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:In this case what we're specifically concerned about is the ability to make money during long periods of being AFK performing activities which are meant to be active. Well that means AFK mining is safe then! If you are aware of a way for miners to mine AFK with no third party programs 24 hours a day without being at their machines and managing cargo then I'm all ears. So yea, it's not a problem unless you can show him what he asked for.
Carry on.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Peter Raptor
X-Exclusion-X
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Posted - 2012.08.12 21:59:00 -
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Just wanted to say, love the new Mack, MINERS BACK IN FORCE, YEAH! 51 k Payers on server! Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
640
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Posted - 2012.08.13 13:08:00 -
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Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:Keep up the good work hisec miners, don't let Goons monopolize Eve. You should thank Goons for their actions showing how silly mining barges and ganking those was. They made a point and actually helped those changes more than everyone, if you can't actually see the picture then look at it deeply  You should thank rapists for the invention of the **** kit. It clearly has stopped all **** worldwide. Your logic is awesome, I want to drink it.
Well you fail to see the picture. There's a CSM running blahblah's and yadayada's for almost peanuts.
Use and abuse of a failure/old design to the point it becomes a nuisance to a large part of the community and suddenly coming out of whatever intergalactic arse you see patches fixing "this" and "that".
Also: why so serious and what the hell rapist have to do with Eve?
brb |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
640
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Posted - 2012.08.13 13:12:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Xython wrote:There was plenty of safety in mining, if you weren't an AFK Botting moron fitting no tank and max yield in a ship designed for group nullsec mining.
Unfortunately, CCP gave in to the AFK Botting Moron Menace. Who caused this in first place? Goons vs. hisec war maybe? And in the same process you guys ruined Hulkageddon as event.
Just change it for Haulergeddon, seems those haulers are in need of some buffs too so just gank those by millions with rifters and thrashers, then we will always be able to thank you for doing the only thing that makes the sandbox evolve: beat it to death brb |

Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
225
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Posted - 2012.08.13 13:26:00 -
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Ninjas InTheNight wrote:Many don't seem to have realised it yet but the barge changes may well kill ice prices.
CCP turned ice mining into a near fully afk activity, all thanks to the 35k m3 ore hold of the mackinkaw. Ice prices may drop to their lowest ever, and the only people mining it will be doing so mainly afk with many alts, and for the average player it will be a worthless income.
How is that a buff for mining? It's a massive nerf. They've turned it into a big joke to be done semi afk with many alts.
Lower ice prices make a lot of other activities much more viable. Not to mention, it will bring the rewards for ice mining in line with the effort required. Remember that ice prices are STILL way above their levels from 3 months ago. Not to mention, with the changes to moon alchemy, MANY more POSes are getting setup, so there is a much greater demand.
Going to be mostly afk while you cook dinner or grab a shower or whatever? Mine some Ice. Have time to be more active? Mine Ore and get more isk/hour.
In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse. |

Ezra Tair
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
85
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Posted - 2012.08.13 14:23:00 -
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Ninjas InTheNight wrote:Many don't seem to have realised it yet but the barge changes may well kill ice prices.
CCP turned ice mining into a near fully afk activity, all thanks to the 35k m3 ore hold of the mackinkaw. Ice prices may drop to their lowest ever, and the only people mining it will be doing so mainly afk with many alts, and for the average player it will be a worthless income.
How is that a buff for mining? It's a massive nerf. They've turned it into a big joke to be done semi afk with many alts.
When was ICE mining not worthless income for the average player? When was it NOT a semi afk activity done with many alts?
The only change now, is that their are choice other than the hulk. Mining barges are viable. The hulk is just another ship, on equal with any other ship in the exhumer class. The exhumer class is now 'end game' mining. Not just the hulk. T2 mining ships are now just about as much an improvement over T1 mining ships as T2 combat ships are over their respective T1 combat ships. |
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