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Joss56
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Posted - 2010.12.09 13:00:00 -
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Sorry jumped to last page it's quite boring to choose the interesting posts.
Flying armor BS what i can say:
T2 fit -Rep cycle is just ridiculously long, you have to sacrifice a lot of you're med/low slots in caps if you fit 2repair (laughable when you see shield boosters at 5sec or less cycle, 85% of the amount of armor repairer with an ridiculous energy cost)
-Amount repair is to low in resp to cycle delay- either make it faster or make the amount bigger (1100seams not overpowered)
-Tracking is not bad with large rails and perfect tracking skill +2 tracking enhancers but as before, 2 low slots = less tank, on the other side you have blasters that can blow any hypersonic frig at 10km... if you want to tank at 35 like you can do with pulses well take a mwd and all you'll be able to tank using your mwd is belt rats. (assuming pve fit)
You didn't talk about marauders but i think they have they're own problems too if you look at the growing number of machariels vindicators rattlesnakes and so on.
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Joss56
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Posted - 2010.12.09 23:13:00 -
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Edited by: Joss56 on 09/12/2010 23:18:38
Originally by: Cutslawn2 DHB and some others in Burn Eden were in unprobable Mach's today, hitting at over 160-200km out instapoping bc's... think BS's need a nerf to be honest.
With basis ratio of 2.26 i can't see how you can make an Machariel improbable, i'm not saying it's impossible but i would like to see his fit/implants.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1427937
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Joss56
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Posted - 2010.12.10 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Target Painter Edited by: Target Painter on 10/12/2010 13:56:56
Originally by: Joss56 With basis ratio of 2.26 i can't see how you can make an Machariel improbable, i'm not saying it's impossible but i would like to see his fit/implants.
Look at it holistically. Halo implants, X-Instinct boosters, a Gallente T3/CS providing sensor strength bonuses, local and projected ECCM. Avoiding shield rigs and extenders. It's not just about what's on your ship or in your head, you can boost performance to an absurd degree if you look at the gang as a whole and not as individuals.
Thank you for youre explanation
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Joss56
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Posted - 2010.12.10 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron It's a none issue. Scanning is too good already, allowing you to get bs sniper warp point in seconds.
you can also add:
Warp time of some mining barge
Agillity of an elephant
Tracking speed ridiculous with rails Blasters in my case have ridiculous range... when you shoot at 50km with pulses?wtf? -on top of this any cruiser/bc/frig that orbit at 30km is untouchable wile he's abble to scram you and blow you ease
DPS should have a real boost, ok if i can't track your frig or your cruiser on 100% cut at least when i touch i would like to see the guy make some in his pants insted of laugh
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Joss56
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Posted - 2010.12.11 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: Joss56 on 11/12/2010 18:34:01
Originally by: Ranka Mei 'Lean and mean' is the new cool. I guess battleships really are on their way out. Can't say I'm losing much sleep over it, though.
Well when i read you i don' know why loosing my time training for BS and skills related, i mean t2 rails and t2 blasters are a big piece of cake training.
Any t2 frig cruiser battle cruiser with a skilled pilot and solo can blow it, you think it's normal, well i don't.
You can say "train your t2/t3 cruiser well i'm not very lucky in my choice, i fly gallente My final goal is the Nyx but for the meanwhile i cant say my self just train directly for it and leave bs's away, wy should i loose some important (most important) part of the game because i cant small pvp with my battleship?
1st i don't like frigs, i hate those mosquitoes 2nd i hate cruisers and battle cruisers 3rd i like big ships
So to have some fun must we all fly frigs cruisers bc's or Mom's?
"Noes" would say pappy
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Joss56
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Posted - 2010.12.13 01:48:00 -
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Edited by: Joss56 on 13/12/2010 01:48:22
Originally by: Ephemeron Ability of 1 player to beat superior forces by use of tactics and specialized equipment is what drives people to excel in the game. It promotes elite players, allows "heroes" to exist. When you need a gang to achieve anything great in PvP, you are just a pawn, easily replaceable by any other nameless pawn.
I like what you said, it means something that gangs looking for some old lady to rob can't understand
Now, frigs can beat battleships, cruisers and battlecruisers beat battleships. This is ok i think i can understand even if my english is poor.
Now battleships can snipe over 180km and be insta pop by super caps. This too i think i understod.
My question is, wy keep battleships in the game and those skils related? Months of training for a sniper?
I'm getting depressive between this thread and the one about rails/blasters
CCP give me back my sp in gallente walle-boats and hybrids, i wanna put them in matar ones.
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Joss56
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Posted - 2010.12.13 19:26:00 -
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Edited by: Joss56 on 13/12/2010 19:27:54
Originally by: Ling Vyr now i think this thread is a joke and i wonder if people know that BS are very early available and quite powerfull for their price and skill requirement ?
Powerfull = 100bs fleet sniping omgrocksfckingpown
Joke= bs get powned by any T1/faction/t2 cruiser battlecruiser 2 or 3man gang (even solo cruiser omgfkigpownrocks cane/cynabal)
"Bs are very early expensive and powerfull enough to blow your wallet if you are not abble to fly a cheaper cruiser/battle cruiser that does better"
Your post is a joke, yes it is.
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Joss56
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Posted - 2010.12.13 19:36:00 -
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Edited by: Joss56 on 13/12/2010 19:37:30 I'm still searching but atm the few times i see more than 1 T2 bs together is when they get out the station in high sec ready to run theyre missions, and in few systems only.
Otherwise i never see 3man gang bs wile cruiser/battlecruiser gangs i have the choice by number and by type (i offen take my "promenade" with my cloaky frig and never see those ones you're talking)
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Joss56
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Posted - 2010.12.14 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kai Yuen Blasters are fail. Hybrids as a whole are fail, and so is Gallente. You want to talk about slow, fat, inaccurate expensive slobs then look no further than the Gallente battleship line up, some of the slowest, fattest, most inaccurate ships in the game.
Thx to you and Liang for those explanations than even some "not english native" like me can understand, so wy can't some natives?
Battlecruiserfans?
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Joss56
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Posted - 2010.12.14 10:29:00 -
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Quote: And quite frankly, if I pay 100 million isk for a ship, I expect it to perform well over a ship worth 200 thousand. Bring more 200 thousand isk ships if you want to beat me.
This
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Joss56
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Posted - 2010.12.14 19:02:00 -
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If you"re still not sure about Liangs numbers let me give you the best way for you to see it by your self:
You convo me in game you come with your super BS omglolroxkspwmevrything, we'll do somme missions at motsu, dodixie at your wish, and wait the bad boys.
You'll see how mutch time a cruiser or battle cruiser will need to blow your ship.
"mwa pve fit vs pvp fit blabla", ok! -again, convo me in game and lets take a ride at low/null, i'll take my cloaky and you, your ubber ultra funky top BSomgpwnfu, and you'll show me how to "winallpvpownomgrock it all with my bs".
Of course i will choose the destination or we can just make a few jumps, run some lvl5.
Deal?
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Joss56
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.12.15 12:53:00 -
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Edited by: Joss56 on 15/12/2010 12:53:51 Do it simple and talk about T1 hulls:
Don't take the numbers has what it should be but how it could work so that every ship has is own place instead of bringing new ships when those already existing are not balanced/used/suck.
If you need 3 frigs to pown a cruiser -> than you shoud need 3 to 4 cruisers to blow a battlecruiser -> this one should be abble to pown a battleship on outnumbering it by 5 or 6+
Wy should you need 80 battleships to pown some cap, and a single faction cruiser t2 frig or t1 battlecruiser to take down a battleship?
-games are not about logics i'm aware of that but then BS has no meaning in the game, a battlecruiser can do almost the same quite well or even better if you forget the "sniper" that can be replaced by any other tactic.
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Joss56
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.16 02:51:00 -
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Edited by: Joss56 on 16/12/2010 02:52:28
Originally by: chrisss0r Tengu was a big ****ing present for the macro ratters.
quick align time and bubble evasion. GL catching those
All this thread learnd me, and i thank you all guys 'n guirls, is that it's not interesting at all waste time training to bs 5 or marauders when a proteus is more "versatil" (?)
By the same time, is the only way for me to finaly mission lvl5 in low sec in dual cloaky tengu/proteus improbable ships.
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Joss56
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.21 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Omara Otawan As long as these mission running BSs generate player killmails, why would that not be useful? I severly doubt that there are more than a few dozen of them in there though.
Looked out at EULA and GAME rules, can't find anything about what you are talking about.
Where is said that BS purpose is to make kilmails? That's the point you're missing, there's no reason to fly them in other conditions than snipelolzboulz.
All youre comments and ideas suggest is to fly T3 improbable ships, great...
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