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Othran
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Posted - 2010.12.07 13:43:00 -
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I look forward to the release of the password for the encrypted file named "insurance.aes256"
While a lot of the current cable database is being spun as "trivial gossip" its not. Its gold. Pure gold and the reason is that this is one of the few times you will ever find out what the politicians really think.
Hopefully the people of Sweden manage to put more pressure on their own govt than exterior influences are currently exerting, although given the cable leaks regarding Sweden I seriously doubt it.
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Othran
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Posted - 2010.12.07 17:44:00 -
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LOL the USA has just totally lost the plot.
State Dept Press Release :
The United States is pleased to announce that it will host Unesco's World Press Freedom Day event in 2011, from 1-3 May in Washington, DC.
The theme for next year's commemoration will be 21st Century Media: New Frontiers, New Barriers. The United States places technology and innovation at the forefront of its diplomatic and development efforts. New media has empowered citizens around the world to report on their circumstances, express opinions on world events, and exchange information in environments sometimes hostile to such exercises of individuals' right to freedom of expression. At the same time, we are concerned about the determination of some governments to censor and silence individuals, and to restrict the free flow of information. We mark events such as World Press Freedom Day in the context of our enduring commitment to support and expand press freedom and the free flow of information in this digital age.
Uhuh. Tossers.
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Othran
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Posted - 2010.12.07 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Othran on 07/12/2010 18:37:24
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Can they do that? I tought only a court order can do that?
To receive "cash" from Visa you must hold a merchants account. Visa reserve the right to terminate that account for a whole shedload of reasons. Don't like it? Take your business elsewhere.
Except of course that isn't always an option - eg my bank only issues Visa cards and do I want to go moving mortgages etc? See how it works?
Cash is inconvenient for govts - for example the Afghan deputy president/PM/whatever wandering off with tens of millions of dollars.
Visa is a great help to them.
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Othran
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Posted - 2010.12.07 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Pastrami Onrye PLEX for Wikileaks please CCP!
Heh I won't hold my breath. CCP rely on Visa/other CC companies.
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Othran
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Posted - 2010.12.07 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Billy Kidd Man some of those cables contain info that pose a security risk, like which assets are of important interest to national security. I wouldn't want that kind of info to be leaked out, regardless of the country to which it belongs to.
That'll be why there are over 3 million US govt employees who are cleared to see them?
NB - do note that its govt employees, not US citizens. Its a rather important distinction.
Oh and bollox they contain security risks. The unredacted Iraq/Afghan stuff undoubtably does but oh look they DIDN'T RELEASE THAT. Not even the USA can come up with a single instance where an individual was named and put at risk. These cables just show up the way the USA does "business" and thats way more damaging than any losses to people on the line.
If/when Assange gets extradited/kidnapped (sorry that'd be "special/extraordinary rendition" to US readers) to the USA we'll see whats damaging because insurance.aes256 will be in the wild.
Can't wait.
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Othran
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Posted - 2010.12.08 15:49:00 -
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A few snippets as things begin to fall into place :
"PayPal today admitted it suspended payments to WikiLeaks after an intervention from the US State Department. The site's vice-president of platform, Osama Bedier, told an internet conference the site had decided to freeze WikiLeaks's account on 4 December after government representatives said it was engaged in illegal activity. "State Dept told us these were illegal activities. It was straightforward," he told the LeWeb conference in Paris, adding: "We ... comply with regulations around the world, making sure that we protect our brand."
You'll note that the State Dept TOLD Paypal it was illegal. No judge involved.
"The US lobbied Russia this year on behalf of Visa and MasterCard in an attempt to ensure the payment companies were not "adversely affected" by new legislation, according to American diplomats in Moscow. A state department cable released this afternoon by WikiLeaks reveals that US diplomats intervened to try to amend a draft law going through Russia's Duma. Their explicit aim was to ensure the new law did not "disadvantage" the two US firms, the cable states. The revelation comes a day after Visa û apparently acting under intense pressure from Washington û announced it was suspending all payments to WikiLeaks, the whistle-blowing website. Visa was following MasterCard, PayPal and Amazon, all of which have severed ties with the site and its founder Julian Assange in the last few days."
Obvious of course but worth pointing out that Visa and Mastercard are US owned payment systems and as such follow US law (or what the State Dept says is law) first. Perhaps worth remembering that too, next time you apply for a card.
Oh and one that's worth reading as its co-signed by the man who leaked the Pentagon Papers way way back in 1971. That resulted in a landmark court ruling that the current generation of Americans don't seem to care about. I'm sure Ellsberg is very grateful he lived in a time when the rule of law meant more.
Anyway ôEVERY attack now made on WikiLeaks and Julian Assange was made against me and the release of the Pentagon Papers at the time.ö
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Othran
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Posted - 2010.12.08 18:45:00 -
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You know the thing that REALLY annoys me?
Its morons saying he should be tried for espionage.
OK lets look at this in your (US) legal system :
1) Did he induce or coerce anyone to provide the info - no; 2) Did the transfer of info take place on US territory (includes embassies/bases/etc) - no.
So how in the hell is it espionage or as some of your more illiterate journos/bloggers are calling it "Treason"?
Get a grip. Have you any idea how you look to the rest of the world?
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Othran
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Posted - 2010.12.08 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Riedle
It's also apparent that a lot of people's political leanings are preventing them from seeing what is blindingly obvious.
Isn't it just. Irony 4tw there matey.
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