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Humpas Roidos
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Posted - 2010.12.10 13:57:00 -
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I'm going to climb into a Machariel in the near future. After the refund of the learning SP I can have both required BS skills at V so I won't feel that I shouldn't even be flying it.
Anyways since the Mach is really fast for a BS I am pondering about getting a X-Type 100mn afterburner. When I checked out the prices I saw that the Core one costs twice as much as the Gist one. At around 94mil the Gist one still has better cap usage then a T2 one and goes 3% faster which is obviously multiplied by skills afterwards.
Instead of the classic 4x RF Gyro, 3x TE setup I was considering fitting a nano intead of one gyro so the bonus speed should impact that even more. So more speed = more tank = less pulsing the shield = less cap usage, right?
Has anyone tried to use both? Will the speed add up as a great benefit or is less cap that much better?
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Target Painter
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Posted - 2010.12.10 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Humpas Roidos When I checked out the prices I saw that the Core one costs twice as much as the Gist one. At around 94mil the Gist one still has better cap usage then a T2 one and goes 3% faster which is obviously multiplied by skills afterwards.
I don't have a real opinion either way, just wanted to say: be aware that a many people manipulate the contracts market knowing that the buyers almost never have an accurate price history to check against. I wouldn't pay twice the price for a debatable increase in performance.
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2010.12.10 14:08:00 -
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Use t2 and full gank in lows. Tbh id use mwd in every mission that allows it /if you can be bothered to refit often/.
If its for sanctums, you should probably use arty fit anyway - with cap shield transfer and sentries assisted to you.
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Humpas Roidos
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Posted - 2010.12.10 14:27:00 -
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This will be for running L4 missions only. And the difference between the X-Type and T2 is gigantic! Without skills the X-Type is ~20% better. On any other BS I would consider T2 ok, but with the speed that the Mach has it's a shame not to exploit it to the max.
Also I agree with regarding MWD. I would use it aswell if it were available for all missions. I wouldn't bother refitting just for the few where it is possbile.
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2010.12.10 14:49:00 -
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If you want to "pimp" your macha, then id choose gist ab - cheaper, faster, pg doesnt matter, lower cpu need can be good thing and macha doesnt have cap issues so -2 cap/s doent mean anything.
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Emmgel
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Posted - 2010.12.10 18:55:00 -
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Main difference is in the Powergrid - Gist X-Type requires considerably less.
Emmgel
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.12.10 19:12:00 -
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The Core X-Type 100mn AB uses signigicantly less Cap. 241 Cap cost versus 320. This is the main reason why the Core is much more expensive, it is used by Mission runners, who often value the increased cap stability more than the small increase in speed.
The Core X-type also uses less Grid than the Gist X-Type, although it uses more CPU. Grid is often more restricting than CPU on mission setups, and more sought after (to fit bigger guns, to do more DPS) and most common mission modules like cap rechargers use little CPU, and faction gear often tends to help out CPU wise more than grid wise.
Since Grid is probably never going to be a problem on a Mach if you are using ACs, I'd say go for the cheaper Gist, unless you want the increased cap stability. ---
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Humpas Roidos
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Posted - 2010.12.11 09:41:00 -
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Thanks for the answers. I guess I will be going for the speed rather then cap. Saving 90mil will also be good since I will be broke after buying the mach
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Hybok
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Posted - 2010.12.11 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Humpas Roidos Thanks for the answers. I guess I will be going for the speed rather then cap. Saving 90mil will also be good since I will be broke after buying the mach
if i were you , i wouldn`t buy it then ... i hope this is an alt , else you might be ganked just for the tears & to put you back to your Drake l4 fit
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Maz3r Rakum
Gallente Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2010.12.11 16:21:00 -
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I recently made this same choice. If you are strapped for cash, get RF gyros first. You honestly won't use the AB as much as you think, but it is still nice to get a pimped out AB. I think you can't go wrong between the Gist or the Core. I choose the core because it is almost as fast and uses less cap, but if you would rather save some isk and top speed is what matters to you get the gist.
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Humpas Roidos
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Posted - 2010.12.12 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Hybok
Originally by: Humpas Roidos Thanks for the answers. I guess I will be going for the speed rather then cap. Saving 90mil will also be good since I will be broke after buying the mach
if i were you , i wouldn`t buy it then ... i hope this is an alt , else you might be ganked just for the tears & to put you back to your Drake l4 fit
I obviously posted with an alt. Not suicidal to post about pimping my ship with the char that would actually fly it
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